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[Gorescream]

But no man...

no....no.....noo..........why Jack...why....

I've been listening to ME1 music (especially Virmire Ride) more than I can count, every single day..., for me,to hear this news is genuinely soulcrushing, it's my favorite kind of music genre, I don't care what you haters say.

I'm
so sad right now, I don't care how good this .....Mansell is, he
doesn't know the universe at all! Jack Wall portrayed the universe of
Mass Effect perfectly, it just wont be the same anymore with ME3, if
they just hired Marsell because he's some big shot composer, it's just,
wrong!

Jack Wall & The Crew, I cannot express my gratitude in words so I'll just say I'll miss you <3

While writing this reply post a few tears came across my eyes already, call me sentimental I don't care.

Man I don't know what to say now, I'm just so sad right now, what a way to start off the weekend.
Look at all these Naysayers in this thread, bah

Oh well, will hear you sometime Jack.
Take care....

[Babli]

Ulzeraj wrote...

<------ Final Fantasy Otaku Baka Forums that way.

ehm....

ME soundtrack is my totaly favourite but you cant make fun of Nobuo Uematsu. You cant

[StElmo]

Capeo wrote...

Firstly, the game industries size has nothing to do with it's artistic quality in the realm of musical scores.  Dan Brown has probably outsold the combined works of Faulkne, Joyce and Hemingway.  That doesn't put him on equal artistic footing in literature.  Also, just from a monetary standpoint this in not going to be Mansell's biggest job.

It's a big industry, just reinforcing the fact that the industry as a whole is big. Often gaming is dissmissed as small or not as important. But well, it is and it's bigger.

Capeo wrote...
Secondly, there's nothing in the ME soundtrack that ever stood out at all to me.  You could play it right now and I wouldn't be able to pick it out of a crowd.  On the other hand I'd know Bioshock, Chronos Trigger, Red Dead Redemption (which was certainly the best recent soundtrack), FF X, even Uncharted 2, instantly.

Fair enough, that's your opinion, can't argue with that. I am the opposite. And if we all want ME3 to be the same success as the previous game, they will have to please fussier fans like me

Capeo wrote...
Thirdly, The Fountain soundtrack is literally in my car CD changer right now.  I listen to both that and the RfaD soundtrack regularly as do all my friends.  They're both on all their iPod playlists.  Both soundtracks sold extremely well and his work for Requiem is already iconic and being used everywhere since its inception.

Fair enough, I admit I'm giving his music a shallow verdict. But the first time I heard ME1 music, I was hooked. So It's just I was sort of expecting the same thing, given his reputation. I'll go rent The Fountain if it makes people happy

Capeo wrote...
Lastly, how you can listen to Lux Aeterna and try to compare it emotionally or hook wise to anything in the ME series is just beyond me.  If you feel nothing listening to that then I just don't get it.

I originally liked it, but now I hear it all the time on peoples fan vids, i got over it fast. But I originally liked ME music more then I did Lux Aeterna on first listen. And I would love it if every halo fan vid out there had ME music instead of Lux Aeterna (not that i'm advocating copyright abuse).

But whatevs, it's just my opinion. I'm sure other fans out there will undoubtedly feel the same as me and many feel the same as you. But we all want to be happy, so lets hope Clint supersedes expectations for everybody? 

[Ulzeraj]

Babli wrote...

Ulzeraj wrote...

<------ Final Fantasy Otaku Baka Forums that way.

ehm....

ME soundtrack is my totaly favourite but you cant make fun of Nobuo Uematsu. You cant

I had a WoW addon that played the FFVII victory song everytime the boss was down. But that guy is an obvious troll.

[Had-to-say]

This is what I expect and even more Mr. Mansell. Make Mrs. Walker proud
do this and you will be immortal. Mrs. Walker lives in my Heart.

Modifié par Had-to-say, 10 février 2011 - 06:06 .

[ApolloCloud]

While that link does illustrate Nobuo Uematsu's proficiency with creating incredibly powerful and epic battle music his real strength lies in creating the more emotionally moving and touching melodies such as the likes of these:

[vaultboy101]

So they fired Jack Wall (musical god) and put this Brit guy in. Bioware you have destroyed Mass Effect 3 for me entirely. Mass Effect music was as integral as the graphics and atmosphere/dialog.

Thank you Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk for ruining the greatest gaming series on Earth and devastating a Mass Effect fan. ME3 is still a day one buy for me but I am will be turning the music down very low when I play through.

I hope you don't screw up my beloved Dragon Age 2 as well.

PS @Jack Wall

You are the greatest composer of modern music ever. Up there with Jerry Goldsmith and John Williams as far as sci fi goes in my opinion. Your music IS Mass Effect and always will be. I am a classical aficianado with my favorites being JS Bach and Richard Wagner. You equal them in my opinion.

Bioware obviously had to follow Activision and get some big boy like Hans Zimmer or something. Shame that Activision outsell EA 10:1 but hey what can you do. EA and Bioware need a CEO change PERIOD like AMD.

Modifié par vaultboy101, 10 février 2011 - 06:04 .

[Phaedon]

StElmo wrote...
I originally liked it, but now I hear it all the time on peoples fan vids, i got over it fast. But I originally liked ME music more then I did Lux Aeterna on first listen. And I would love it if every halo fan vid out there had ME music instead of Lux Aeterna (not that i'm advocating copyright abuse).

But whatevs, it's just my opinion. I'm sure other fans out there will undoubtedly feel the same as me and many feel the same as you. But we all want to be happy, so lets hope Clint supersedes expectations for everybody? 

I am afraid that you will be disappointed by the OST. ME3's direction will probably be epic, which means that Vangelis-clones, while good, don't really fit the atmosphere. Seeing as you prefer ME1's electronic music, I don't think that you'll like Clint's work. That would happen even if he was never hired. What did you think of ME2's OST?

[StElmo]

ApolloCloud wrote...

ME1 and ME2 are probably the best game soundtracks of the decade in an industry that's bigger then hollywood.

ahhahhhahhahhahahahhahhah!

Oh wait you were being serious?

That is probably one of the most bizarre statements I've ever come across on these forums. The Mass Effect soundtracks are good but the soundtracks that you get from the likes of Yasunori Mitsuda and Nobuo Uematsu blow them completely out of the water. The likes of Chrono Cross and Xenosaga and the Final Fantasy games are in a completely different universe as far as their music is concerned.

Why is everyone so mean? Does everyone think my opinion is being claimed as fact or something? Things like "this is the best of the decade yada yada yada" surely most people would interpret that as opinion right? I don't see what the problem is, I liked ME 1 and 2's soundtrack. Along with Assasin's Creed II they have been the highlight soundtracks of the decade for me.

Maybe not for you, but for me

[Fingolfin09]

JACK WALL??????????????!!!!!!

[Code_R]

I'm guessing this is why he got picked:



Seriously, he's a good choice and a great composer if you actually know his work.

Modifié par Code_R, 10 février 2011 - 06:02 .

[Phaedon]

vaultboy101 wrote...

So they fired Jack Wall (musical god) and put this Brit guy in. Bioware you have destroyed Mass Effect 3 for me entirely. Mass Effect music was as integral as the graphics and atmosphere/dialog.

Thank you Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk for ruining the greatest gaming series on Earth and devastating a Mass Effect fan. ME3 is still a day one buy for me but I am will be turning the music down very low when I play through.

I hope you don't screw up my beloved Dragon Age 2 as well.

Ah, yes, optimism.
No offence, but aren't you judging the game a bit prematurely? Have you ever heard Mansell's work?

[Crackseed]

To Mr. Wall - thank you for the awesome soundtrack work and best of luck on your future endeavors! We will miss you on ME3.

To Mr. Mansell - WOOT. Stoked about seeing what surprises are in store from us from a man of awesome talent and capability.

Can we have ME3 now? Srsly. This wait is killing me. Oh well, guess I'll just have to hold myself over with more ME2 playthroughs...haha >.>

Quite excellent news today, though again - also a sobering moment to see Wall moving on.

Modifié par crackseed, 10 février 2011 - 06:01 .

[Haristo]

Actually I think this is a good idea, if they also add some balery modified songs from ME1 and ME2 to the new soundtrack, it will make a wonderfull original OST.



and with what I heard of this guy, it will make the soundtrack of this game much more tragic than the firsts two games, in these dark times (You know the Reapers just invaded earth... or did I spoiled you the plot ?) some dark music is always great.



(and Why not Jeremy Soule ! what he made for SWKOTOR is wonderfull !)

[Phaedon]

StElmo wrote...
Why is everyone so mean? Does everyone think my opinion is being claimed as fact or something? Things like "this is the best of the decade yada yada yada" surely most people would interpret that as opinion right? I don't see what the problem is, I liked ME 1 and 2's soundtrack. Along with Assasin's Creed II they have been the highlight soundtracks of the decade for me. 

Maybe not for you, but for me

Known troll, report him, ignore him and move on. 

[Capeo]

Phaedon wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

By the way, do you think that Mansell will do the OST on his own? It is possible that other artists have been hired as well.

I hope he at least has the Kronos Quartet in his back pocket.  His work with them is really his seminal stuff.

But then again, he has made several movie OSTs on his own, so there is no need for anyone else to help.

Oh, I agree.  I'm sure we're going to get some of his trademark industrial electronica from things like Pi and the more mood oriented electronica from Moon but when it comes to bringing the epic KQ kicks it up a notch.

[StElmo]

Phaedon wrote...

StElmo wrote...
I originally liked it, but now I hear it all the time on peoples fan vids, i got over it fast. But I originally liked ME music more then I did Lux Aeterna on first listen. And I would love it if every halo fan vid out there had ME music instead of Lux Aeterna (not that i'm advocating copyright abuse).

But whatevs, it's just my opinion. I'm sure other fans out there will undoubtedly feel the same as me and many feel the same as you. But we all want to be happy, so lets hope Clint supersedes expectations for everybody? 

I am afraid that you will be disappointed by the OST. ME3's direction will probably be epic, which means that Vangelis-clones, while good, don't really fit the atmosphere. Seeing as you prefer ME1's electronic music, I don't think that you'll like Clint's work. That would happen even if he was never hired. What did you think of ME2's OST?

I loved ME2's OST. LOVE LOVE LOVED IT, combat music was an amazing fusion of orchestral and synth. It was perfect. ME1 had better atmospheric music, but ME2 had some great combat music and GREAT build. Actually this is the thing I loved most about ME2, was BUILD. Illusive Man, Suicide Mission, Overlord combat, Shadow Broker combat, Normandy SR2 - all had amazing BUILD, LIFT and CRESCENDO. Beautiful work.

[Ulzeraj]

StElmo wrote...
Why is everyone so mean? Does everyone think my opinion is being claimed as fact or something? Things like "this is the best of the decade yada yada yada" surely most people would interpret that as opinion right? I don't see what the problem is, I liked ME 1 and 2's soundtrack. Along with Assasin's Creed II they have been the highlight soundtracks of the decade for me.

Maybe not for you, but for me

Calm down. I kinda agrees with you that a Vangelis-like theme served ME1 and ME2 perfectly. But if you think well ME3 will be more about epic conclusions. I just hope they maintain the healthy mix between orchestra and synth as they did on ME2. Listen to Mordin's theme and You'll know what I'm talking about.

Ignore ApolloCloud. He is discussing non-stop 14 pages about how japanese stuff is godly superior to everything western art. Probably someone at 4chan.org forgot to lock the cage.

Modifié par Ulzeraj, 10 février 2011 - 06:07 .

[Phaedon]

StElmo wrote...
I loved ME2's OST. LOVE LOVE LOVED IT, combat music was an amazing fusion of orchestral and synth. It was perfect. ME1 had better atmospheric music, but ME2 had some great combat music and GREAT build. Actually this is the thing I loved most about ME2, was BUILD. Illusive Man, Suicide Mission, Overlord combat, Shadow Broker combat, Normandy SR2 - all had amazing BUILD, LIFT and CRESCENDO. Beautiful work. 

I misjudged your taste, then, sorry. 
I agree with Capeo, the electronic music we'll see in ME3 will probably be like this:


Not the tone necessarily, but the structure, the conce...and now I am not making any sense.

[StElmo]

Ulzeraj wrote...

StElmo wrote...
Why is everyone so mean? Does everyone think my opinion is being claimed as fact or something? Things like "this is the best of the decade yada yada yada" surely most people would interpret that as opinion right? I don't see what the problem is, I liked ME 1 and 2's soundtrack. Along with Assasin's Creed II they have been the highlight soundtracks of the decade for me.

Maybe not for you, but for me

Calm down. I kinda agrees with you that a Vangelis-like theme served ME1 and ME2 perfectly. But if you think well ME3 will be more about epic conclusions. I just hope they maintain the healthy mix between orchestra and synth as they did on ME2. Listen to Mordin's theme and You'll know what I'm talking about.

Ignore ApolloCloud. He is discussing non-stop 14 pages about how japanese stuff is godly superior to everything western art. Probably someone at 4chan.org forgot to lock the cage.

Lol ew troll. I like epic too, just ME2 epic, not PURE orchestral epic. 

Modifié par StElmo, 10 février 2011 - 06:13 .

[CroGamer002]

Everyone think about we might get some Clint Mansell work in next ME2 DLC?

[Noilly Prat]

I think it's hilarious that there are still so many people freaking out that this is a sign Mass Effect 3 will be Hollywood action movie fare, or that it's going to be devoid of synthesizer.  A few points:

1.  The first two games, in all honesty, were Hollywood action movie fare, to some extent.

2.  Mansell is a professional.  You don't have to like the finished product, but it's completely silly to assume that he would just throw together a generic film soundtrack without paying any mind to the source material.  That's not how professional composers for films or games work.

3.  Before he was writing film music, Mansell had a band called Pop Will Eat Itself, which played rock music with some industrial and synthpop influences.  They toured with Nine Inch Nails, along with other groups.

4.  Mansell's (I believe) first film score was for the movie Pi, and, if I recall correctly, it was very synth-heavy.

5.  Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think (for what reason, I cannot begin to fathom), Mansell is NOT a predominantly orchestral composer.  As I said, Pi was rather synth-based; The Wrestler used a lot of sparse electric guitar; the Requiem for a Dream music (and several of his other works with the Kronos Quartet) was mostly written for string quartet mixed with some more typical rock instrumentation; some of his other stuff is quite piano-based; etc.  The bombastic, orchestrated version of his Requiem for a Dream piece that everybody seems to know was not the original version, and it wasn't even arranged by Mansell.

6.  He has already scored a science fiction film, Moon, and his music for this film was perfect.

I mean no disrespect whatsoever to Jack Wall, who did a great job with the first two games.  But I've seen a lot of people commenting on Mansell's music who clearly have no idea what they're talking about.  This isn't a bad thing, people, it's a good thing.  If you really want to complain about it, at least make sure you have something on which to base your opinions.

[Phaedon]

Mesina2 wrote...

Everyone think about we might get some Clint Mansell work in next ME2 DLC?

I doubt it, but I guess it's a possibility.

[Appolo90]

I love this news.

[CroGamer002]

Appolo90 wrote...

I love this news.

I love your avatar.