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[ApolloCloud]

Xenogears would have the best soundtrack of all time, yes.



However it wouldn't be alone in having a far superior soundtrack to those of either Mass Effect.

[InvaderErl]

Spectreshadow wrote...

 One thing I have noticed about this fanbase is everyone overreacts to news when we have nothing to go off of.  Everyone just calm down and actually wait to hear the music before you start complaning about it.

Alright we've had about enough of you and your level headed reasonable approach. You take that crap elsewhere!

[Therefore_I_Am]

ninnisinni97 wrote...

I listened to some of his music on youtube, and sure, he is good. But still, were is Jack Wall?! I absolutely will not tolerate losing the epic Mass Effect theme for the "epic conclusion" that I hope ME3 will be...

Mansell produces some epic work, but I have always thought Two Steps From Hell produces some epic stuff as well; I can see mansell producing similar.
examples

[Capeo]

vaultboy101 wrote...

Yes indeed here we go

I am just supporting Jack Wall and friends.

That does not mean I will not buy Bioware games. DA2 and ME3 are preorders for me and Clint's involvement does not change that.

Jack Wall is a musical god to me and Clint isn't (yet) based on his previous work which is average at best.

It's hard to take you serious when you call Jack Wall, a guy who only scores video games and is completely unknown outside that field, with Clint Mansell, a guy whose talents reach across the whole musical scale and has worked on dozens of film and television scores in collaboration with some of the most creative people in that field and has done work that has drawn praise from just about every publication in music and film.

You're entitled to your opinion but you'd be pretty lonely amongst musicians and critics when proclaiming Wall a "musical god". 

Modifié par Capeo, 10 février 2011 - 09:16 .

[Fredvdp]

ApolloCloud wrote...

Weirdly enough I don't remember ever thinking that the music was even remotely spectacular while playing the first Mass Effect at least. Could somebody remind me of a particularly great track perhaps?

Vigil

[Fiery Phoenix]

Vigil plays on a few occasions in ME2, which I thought was a very nice touch.

[Mims]

All I can say is wow. I certainly hope Jack Wall is involved and continues to be awesome... but I can't think of anyone more epic than Clint Mansell. To hear he's doing me3 is mind blowingly amazing.

[maxulic]

Capeo wrote...

vaultboy101 wrote...

Yes indeed here we go

I am just supporting Jack Wall and friends.

That does not mean I will not buy Bioware games. DA2 and ME3 are preorders for me and Clint's involvement does not change that.

Jack Wall is a musical god to me and Clint isn't (yet) based on his previous work which is average at best.

It's hard to take you serious when you call Jack Wall, a guy who only scores video games and is completely unknown outside that field, with Clint Mansell, a guy whose talents reach across the whole musical scale and has worked on dozens of film and television scores in collaboration with some of the most creative people in that field and has done work that has drawn praise from just about every publication in music and film.

You're entitled to your opinion but you'd be pretty lonely amongst musicians and critics when proclaiming Wall a "musical god". 

Wow! What a flawed vision you have!

So not only being more famous than someone else makes you better (so what about beginners? When Spielberg directed Duel he was a nobody), but composing for movies instead of videogames means you are much more successful, thus better. Sorry this is not how it works, for instance someone like Jeremy Soule (Morrowind, Guild Wars: Eye of the North, KOTOR) is in no way inferior to a composer doing movie scores for the sole reason that he is "only" doing videogames.

Modifié par maxulic, 10 février 2011 - 09:40 .

[AdmiralCheez]

ApolloCloud wrote...

Xenogears would have the best soundtrack of all time, yes.

However it wouldn't be alone in having a far superior soundtrack to those of either Mass Effect.

Guuurrrl, don't make me get my weeaboo stick! *snaps fingers* (jk, jk.)

Of course, Mass Effect doesn't have the "best game soundtrack ever," but a few tracks, like this one and this one, were damn impressive.  I'd say almost iconic.  The in-game atmospheric/batte music was so-so, but the main themes...  Wow.

I was also impressed by Metroid Prime's title theme and the SC2: Wings of Liberty suite.

As for Clint Mansell, so long as he's able to mix in the old themes (like Vigil), I'm sure he'll do a pretty sweet job.  I was opposed to the idea at first, but hey, no use digging my heels in when the decision's been made, right?

[Silmane]

maxulic wrote...

Capeo wrote...

vaultboy101 wrote...

Yes indeed here we go

I am just supporting Jack Wall and friends.

That does not mean I will not buy Bioware games. DA2 and ME3 are preorders for me and Clint's involvement does not change that.

Jack Wall is a musical god to me and Clint isn't (yet) based on his previous work which is average at best.

It's hard to take you serious when you call Jack Wall, a guy who only scores video games and is completely unknown outside that field, with Clint Mansell, a guy whose talents reach across the whole musical scale and has worked on dozens of film and television scores in collaboration with some of the most creative people in that field and has done work that has drawn praise from just about every publication in music and film.

You're entitled to your opinion but you'd be pretty lonely amongst musicians and critics when proclaiming Wall a "musical god". 

Wow! What a flawed vision you have!

So not only being more famous than someone else makes you better (so what about beginners? When Spielberg directed Duel he was a nobody), but composing for movies instead of videogames means you are much more successful, thus better. Sorry this is not how it works, for instance someone like Jeremy Soule (Morrowind, Guild Wars: Eye of the North, KOTOR) is in no way inferior to a composer doing movie scores for the sole reason that he is "only" doing videogames.

Hate to get technical, because I share your opinion, but JS isn't just games anymore. 

[Capeo]

maxulic wrote...

Capeo wrote...

vaultboy101 wrote...

Yes indeed here we go

I am just supporting Jack Wall and friends.

That does not mean I will not buy Bioware games. DA2 and ME3 are preorders for me and Clint's involvement does not change that.

Jack Wall is a musical god to me and Clint isn't (yet) based on his previous work which is average at best.

It's hard to take you serious when you call Jack Wall, a guy who only scores video games and is completely unknown outside that field, with Clint Mansell, a guy whose talents reach across the whole musical scale and has worked on dozens of film and television scores in collaboration with some of the most creative people in that field and has done work that has drawn praise from just about every publication in music and film.

You're entitled to your opinion but you'd be pretty lonely amongst musicians and critics when proclaiming Wall a "musical god". 

Wow! What a flawed vision you have!

So not only being more famous than someone else makes you better (so what about beginners? When Spielberg directed Duel he was a nobody), but composing for movies instead of videogames means you are much more successful, thus better. Sorry this is not how it works, for instance someone like Jeremy Soule (Morrowind, Guild Wars: Eye of the North, KOTOR) is in no way inferior to a composer doing movie scores for the sole reason that he is "only" doing videogames.

I didn't say anything about success.  I was comparing the range of their work.  And, yes, having a broader range of work does imply more talent.  Perhaps you should read the entire sentence.   

[Noilly Prat]

vaultboy101 wrote...

@Phaedon

If I was bitter I would not buy Mass Effect 3. I however cannot wait to get ME3. In democracy you are allowed to express your opinions even if the opinions run counter to yours.

I am conforming to the TOS and I am allowed to say that Jack Wall is great and that in my opinion Clint Mansell has a lot to prove. You like Clint then great for you. I don't so there.

All right, again, I'm not disputing that Jack Wall is great, and he's got plenty of impressive credits to his name.

That being said... 25+ years of experience on the music scene, tenure in a successful rock band, tours and collaborations with Public Enemy, Trent Reznor, Prodigy, Kronos Quartet, Mogwai, and others, well over two dozen film credits to his name, a Golden Globe nomination, and contributions to Oscar-winning and nominated films, and Mansell still has "a lot to prove"?

Those are some high standards you've got there!

Edit: I'm not saying that resume and credits are everything, either.  Personally, I think Mansell's body of work speaks for itself.  My point is that, when someone has that much experience and recognition, no, they really don't have much to prove (except in the very limited sense of, for example, lacking experience in a particular genre or having a limited stylistic scope).

To put it another way-- I don't personally care much for U2's music, but I would never say that they have a lot to prove.

Modifié par Noilly Prat, 10 février 2011 - 10:00 .

[CroGamer002]

Listen to Moon OST.

Something similar would be nice for ME3 end credits.

[thespianicism]

I really have no idea how to react to this news. On one hand, I love Clint Mansell's work. I listen to it very frequently. On the other hand, Jack Wall has done a great job thus far of supporting Mass Effect's story and setting. I'm sure Mansell will do a great job, and I am very excited to hear what he comes up with. However, it's sad to see Wall go in the final act of a trilogy that he was a major part of.

[The Unfallen]

I hope this means Trent Reznor could possibly be involved! Anybody agree?

[The Unfallen]

I mean come on, the amount of epic would explode if both Mansell and Reznor were involved AT THE SAME TIME! I have yet to hear Reznor score any video games recently. Should be AWESOME!

[t-dave]

The Unfallen wrote...

I hope this means Trent Reznor could possibly be involved! Anybody agree?

After sampling The Social Network soundtrack, I would hope he would not be involved in scoring. Didn't care for it at all, I'm afraid.

Contributing a song for end credits on the other hand...? 

[LagAdder]

I just listened to the Mansell stuff... not impressed at all. So at the moment, I can't really say that I'm looking forward to MassEffect 3 as much as I did before reading about Jack Wall leaving.

[James_975]

Anyone condemning Bioware for making this decision needs to open their eyes (ears?). Jack Wall did a great job in creating the ME1 soundtrack. Very ambient themes that made you feel when you were exploring this new galaxy, you were REALLY exploring this new galaxy.



ME2's soundtrack was a complete bomb. Generic, uninspired material that could have been the soundtrack to any game/movie/TV show released in the past ten years, if you remove the songs that were brought over from ME1. Having said that, ME2's generic soundtrack followed the pattern set forth by the game itself. Generic, generic, generic.



If you thought parts of ME2 were emotionally engaging, Mansell will tear you apart you with his music if the in-game writing for ME3 is up to snuff. Watch any movies that have a Mansell score behind them and tell me his music doesn't ooze emotion. This is an excellent decision on the part of Bioware. Kudos.

[Terror_K]

The best thing, IMO, that Clint Mansell can do is have us not even notice he's the composer for ME3, if you follow me. If I hadn't heard about the change of composer at all (like some players probably won't going into it) then I would have liked to have played the game all the way through and not even noticed it wasn't Jack Wall and co. until I've read the end credits.

[Leanansidhe]

I can not express how unbelievably disappointed I am at this news.

Maybe they can reuse the music from 1 and 2 and just have this guy write the filler stuff?  I've listened to all the links, and I'm just not impressed. 

I was kind of down that they didn't go with a different composer for Dragon Age, 'cause I think Inon Zur is generic, but I was looking forward to ME3 and more Wall of Sound.  To find out they went generic there, as well, makes me sad.

I wonder if this has something to do with the movie?  Maybe the producers wanted a more "mainstream" composer?

Oh well.  I shall console myself by believing that Jack Wall won't be doing ME3 because he is gearing up to score Jade Empire 2  (Yes, I know I'm living in Fantasyland.  Let me dream for a while. )