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Requiem of a Reaper: Official Clint Mansell Thread V2


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I don't know if I like that 'Welcome to Lunar Industries' piece - it becomes very, I don't know...irritating? after about 3-4 minutes. 

I would expect to hear this kind of music on Dr. Who or Torchwood - it's even slightly reminiscent of the original War of the Worlds soundtrack.

I'm familiarising myself with some of his other pieces - Lux Aeterna is actually quite decent. If that's what we can expect in ME3 then consider me happy. :P

Modifié par Shockwave81, 11 février 2011 - 10:03 .


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AwesomeName wrote...

LOL, that is such cheese


I just watched the entire movie in this one piece of music. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

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LiamN7 wrote...

I don't care how good this new guy is. I don't like this change.


Liam, I think we've established by now that you don't like anything. :P

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@Shockwave81, check out the score for The Fountain - that's my favourite, and my opinion is certified awesome *flies off on pegasus* 

EDIT: But watch the film, otherwise it's kinda difficult to appreciate why it fits so well.

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

I don't care how good this new guy is. I don't like this change.


Liam, I think we've established by now that you don't like anything. :P

Mostly true. I do like you,.... Though now that I think about that,.................:D
Nothing against this new guy. But I really don't like this change.

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AwesomeName wrote...

@Shockwave81, check out the score for The Fountain - that's my favourite, and my opinion is certified awesome *flies off on pegasus* 

EDIT: But watch the film, otherwise it's kinda difficult to appreciate why it fits so well.


Thanks for that.  I'm not worried for the soundtrack of ME3. :)

Although I do have somewhat of a headache from the screeching string sections in some of those pieces!!

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Shockwave81 wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

@Shockwave81, check out the score for The Fountain - that's my favourite, and my opinion is certified awesome *flies off on pegasus* 

EDIT: But watch the film, otherwise it's kinda difficult to appreciate why it fits so well.


Thanks for that.  I'm not worried for the soundtrack of ME3. :)

Although I do have somewhat of a headache from the screeching string sections in some of those pieces!!


That's probably a good thing given what happens during those scenes :)   I love Death is the Road to Awe... life, death, love - all of it lancing through the grand stage of space :)

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This guy is so F***ing GOOD!

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pmac_tk421 wrote...

This guy is so F***ing GOOD!


That sums it up nicely.

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N7Infernox wrote...

morrie23 wrote...

Don't get me wrong, this guy is good, but the synth! I fear it's all going to be string and piano based.

I 'm worried for the same exact thing.


Agreed.

Anyway, I fell in love with the original Mass Effect music. Changing the composer is a big deal. :(

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Cherico2 wrote...

I think orcestra doesn't really fit with Sci-fi games. Only certain scenes.
But synthy songs like the ones on Eden prime, Ilos and stuff. Makes the game alot awesome

Mansell can do much more than orchestral music. In fact, I made an experiment about that.

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Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

N7Infernox wrote...

morrie23 wrote...

Don't get me wrong, this guy is good, but the synth! I fear it's all going to be string and piano based.

I 'm worried for the same exact thing.


Agreed.

Anyway, I fell in love with the original Mass Effect music. Changing the composer is a big deal. :(


I wouldn't worry too much.  Mansell cut his teeth on techno and electronica.  He can bring those elements in.

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I wouldn't worry too much.  Mansell cut his teeth on techno and electronica.  He can bring those elements in.


I agree. I don't understand why everyone is worried that Mansell isn't going to utilize enough synths. My worry is that he will fail to properly implement the orchestral sound. Most of his scores are overly minimalistic and repetetive, except for Sahara of course, which may have more to do with orchestrator Nicholas Dodd's influence anyway.

So has anyone actually found confirmation that Jack Wall was unable to return? If so, at least we could take some consolation in the fact that he wasn't replaced outright. Of course, even with that in mind, I think Mansell is a really poor choice.

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WHAT!!!?? Mansell is great, i do admit that, but without Wall, the whole atmosphere of hte music might be gone.

How 'bout they co-write? Wall is just great and let me remind you he made "Suicide Mission"

Please, Wall of sound must be in!!



If not, well. At least "Lux Aeterna" will be the score for the Launch Trailer, mark my words.

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DrAnaconda wrote...


I wouldn't worry too much.  Mansell cut his teeth on techno and electronica.  He can bring those elements in.


...I agree. I don't understand why everyone is worried that Mansell isn't going to utilize enough synths. My worry is that he will fail to properly implement the orchestral sound. Most of his scores are overly minimalistic and repetetive, except for Sahara of course, which may have more to do with orchestrator Nicholas Dodd's influence anyway...


You do relize the same can be more easily said for Jack Wall. Honestly, IMO Jack Wall is the master of repeditive. 

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...If not, well. At least "Lux Aeterna" will be the score for the Launch Trailer, mark my words....


If it is I will literally shoot myself. Although it is a amazing song, it is overused in everything. Especially trailers. The reason I don't like the track is because of it's over use.

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Link Ashland 614 wrote...

WHAT!!!?? Mansell is great, i do admit that, but without Wall, the whole atmosphere of hte music might be gone.
How 'bout they co-write? Wall is just great and let me remind you he made "Suicide Mission"
Please, Wall of sound must be in!!
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Even though Jack Wall isn't composing anything new for Mass Effect, it's probably a safe bet that some of the music he already composed for Mass Effect would return. The main theme isn't likely to change and I'm certain we will still be hearing Uncharted Worlds when accessing the galaxy map.

Clint Mansell would just be composing new tracks for ME3, just as Christopher Lennertz composed original music for the Overlord and LotSB DLC. (Both of which had awesome soundtracks, IMO) Most casual gamers who don't keep track of the Mass Effect news probably didn't even noticed that a new composer was involved with Overlord or LotSB. I suspect the same will be true with ME3.

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Not reading through 30 pages, I wonder if this move is an indication that perhaps the film might be picking up some steam?

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No offense to Clint Mansell, but I prefer Jack Wall better, gave ME2 a better style and isn't as dark and dull as Clint. I don't care,since Drew Karpshyn is still involved, who cares about music when you have a great author writing the story?

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Captain Cornhole wrote...

DrAnaconda wrote...


I wouldn't worry too much.  Mansell cut his teeth on techno and electronica.  He can bring those elements in.


...I agree. I don't understand why everyone is worried that Mansell isn't going to utilize enough synths. My worry is that he will fail to properly implement the orchestral sound. Most of his scores are overly minimalistic and repetetive, except for Sahara of course, which may have more to do with orchestrator Nicholas Dodd's influence anyway...


You do relize the same can be more easily said for Jack Wall. Honestly, IMO Jack Wall is the master of repeditive. 


That argument could be made, but I would disagree with it. I think Jack Wall's music, particularly for Mass Effect 2, is significantly deeper and more complex than most of Mansell's music. There is a fair amount of repetition, which is something of a consequence of the format. But I thought that, considering the format, Wall kept the music consistently interesting, particularly during the more cinematic sequences.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of electronic music (I'm listening to hard trance as i type this), but, in my humble opinion, true epic is best conveyed through orchestral work. The complete fullness and vast range of sounds created by an orchestra is simply unrivaled, even by electronic music.

I love Jack Wall, I really do, I've been a fan of him since Myst 3, but I feel that ME3 needs to be as epic as physically possible, and an orchestral score is the best way to go about that, in my opinion.

Also, just because the majority of Mansell's work is orchestral doesn't mean there won't be electronic elements within the music. The two genres can mix quite effortlessly if done correctly.

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To people saying the "atmoshpere" of the game is now lost...

Wall literally killed the atmosphere with Mass 2. Sorry to be blunt but...go listen to mass 1 and then 2...you'll see what I'm talking about. Obviously Bioware has a plan with this...and I KNOW that some pretty epic tracks will pop up in Mass 3...holy crap will they be epic.

Modifié par Kane-Corr, 12 février 2011 - 02:52 .


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DrAnaconda wrote...

Captain Cornhole wrote...

DrAnaconda wrote...


I wouldn't worry too much.  Mansell cut his teeth on techno and electronica.  He can bring those elements in.


...I agree. I don't understand why everyone is worried that Mansell isn't going to utilize enough synths. My worry is that he will fail to properly implement the orchestral sound. Most of his scores are overly minimalistic and repetetive, except for Sahara of course, which may have more to do with orchestrator Nicholas Dodd's influence anyway...


You do relize the same can be more easily said for Jack Wall. Honestly, IMO Jack Wall is the master of repeditive. 


That argument could be made, but I would disagree with it. I think Jack Wall's music, particularly for Mass Effect 2, is significantly deeper and more complex than most of Mansell's music. There is a fair amount of repetition, which is something of a consequence of the format. But I thought that, considering the format, Wall kept the music consistently interesting, particularly during the more cinematic sequences.


I agree with you that Jack does particularly well with the cinematics, his music often sets the tone of gameplay following any cinematic. And all though I understand there are time constraints when writing music to a video game (for instence Hans Zimmer's score for Modern Warfare was below adverage). That said  for a lot of Mr. Wall's tracks there isn't much content there along with some the repeditive patterns. For instence Mr. Wall sticks to held synth cords the move up or down in relitive harmonics to the general counter mellody that is useually running pattern 8th, 16th and quarter notes.

That's just my opinion, though to be honest I haven't listened to much of Clint's work. So in the comparison of the two I wouldn't know. But what I can say though, is as far as soundtracks go Jack Wall is one of the most repeditive people out there, and don't get me wrong here. Repitition isn't always a bad thing.

In classical music and movies scores in the 30's and 50's the standard was that it was frowned apon to have anysort of melody. And generally you have to repeate certain measures to get a melody. That is why you find running 16th notes for orchestral compositions for lots of movies coming from that era. 

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Not excited about this change. They should have kept Jack Wall. He's worked on the first two games... he knows his topic... why bring some new guy at the last minute (for the last act) and potentially screw up everything? Big risk. I hope they know what they're doing.

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JL81 wrote...

Not excited about this change. They should have kept Jack Wall. He's worked on the first two games... he knows his topic... why bring some new guy at the last minute (for the last act) and potentially screw up everything? Big risk. I hope they know what they're doing.


Jack Wall left on his own.