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[Loup Blanc]

Silmane wrote...

JL81 wrote...

Not excited about this change. They should have kept Jack Wall. He's worked on the first two games... he knows his topic... why bring some new guy at the last minute (for the last act) and potentially screw up everything? Big risk. I hope they know what they're doing.

Jack Wall left on his own. 

Didn't know that. Well, it still sucks

[spirosz]

Hopefully it works out well. I'm a big fan of both composers. I think Clint's style will work for Mass Effect 3 because of it being the end of the trilogy, there's going to be some really epic/sad moments in the game, which I believe Clint can really evoke those emotions in his music. But either way, I respect both artists and hope Jack Wall can do some future stuff with Bioware!

Modifié par spiros9110, 12 février 2011 - 03:25 .

[Silmane]

JL81 wrote...

Silmane wrote...

JL81 wrote...

Not excited about this change. They should have kept Jack Wall. He's worked on the first two games... he knows his topic... why bring some new guy at the last minute (for the last act) and potentially screw up everything? Big risk. I hope they know what they're doing.

Jack Wall left on his own. 

Didn't know that. Well, it still sucks

Indeed. I know to some the music doesn't resonate the same, but when I first read the article, my first reaction was..this is what it would feel like if Robert Downey Jr decided not to be IronMan in IM3. Or if you didn't play as Commander Shepard in ME3. 

I think the thing that bothers me the most is that people hear Clint's music and then they go off about how his music doesn't fit. Well, yeah, it doesn't fit. You know why? Because he wasn't writing for Mass Effect 3. It is impossible to judge how well he is going to do, because we haven't heard anything, yet. The VGA trailer might've been him..but it could've been anybody. Wasn't long enough to really tell. 

Casey and crew aren't going to let him just write crap tracks(as if he would) and be okay with it. Regardless of what you think of ME1 or 2, Bioware is alright in my book when it comes to seeing over this franchise. 

BIoware creators being producers on the film is proof of this. Video game movies don't get that kind of input. 

The soundtrack is gonna be awesome and to doubt the composer, Clint or not, nearly a year before release is just bogus. 

None of this directed at JL81. 

[Silmane]

AwesomeName wrote...

DrAnaconda wrote...
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Watched Moon last night for the first time. 5 damn stars. Went into it knowing nothing except Mansell did the music. Is it wrong to say that his music was probably the weakest point? That story was amazing. Props to Rockwell, too. 

And I really hope ME3 gets dark. Even BSG got dark at times. Why should ME be any different? It's been smiles and sunshine for the most part in this series. 

People want Hans Zimmer or other composers..it's either Mansell or Bear McCreary for me. 

This song came to mind when the Normandy gets attacked in ME2. 1:47 Shepard opens the door that lets you space walk to Joker. "Oh no they are coming around for another pass," at 3:06. Shepard drifts into space 3:38. The trail of the body and sunrise on the planet at 4:03. Hey, i can dream. ME2 would've been the best game ever made with a intro like that. 

Modifié par Silmane, 12 février 2011 - 03:54 .

[Silmane]

I could embed songs into the pages...



Oh right, someone already did that.

[xXSnak3Eat3rXx]

^ Bear McCreary would have been awesome as well (in fact, I opened a thread about this a while back) but Clint Mansell is on a whole new level. I still can't believe Bioware got him on the project.



But then Hans Zimmer > both.

[DrAnaconda]

Very interesting to see all the differing tastes in music here. Looks as though most are very excited about Mansell being on the project. This may be an over-generalization, but those that favor Mansell seem to also favor a more orchestral score. This strikes me as odd. If anything, I would expect Mansell to expand on the retro electronics and atmosphere of the Jack Wall scores, and decrease the scale of the orchestral portions. I think that those who are worried about the electronic dissonance being downplayed have nothing to fear. But I believe that those of us that prefer the score to move even further in the large-scale orchestral direction are going to be disappointed.

I know a lot of people worship Zimmer, and I respect that. People have their tastes, and one could debate over what composer is more skilled than another for an eternity. Music is art, and art is subjective. I do have my own subjective opinion of Zimmer, of course. I like some of his scores a lot, but his style is largely contradictory to classical orchestral scoring. His company Media Ventures, has largely formed the basis of modern blockbuster film scoring, which began in the 90s. It typically utilizes a lot of synths and power anthems, i.e. brawny, over-simplified movie scoring. I rather like a lot of these scores. But their prominence over the arguably superior and more memorable orchestral scores of the 80s and 90s, and much earlier, is a fact that I find deeply disturbing. Again, this is just one man's opinion, and no better or worse than any other's.

Modifié par DrAnaconda, 12 février 2011 - 04:44 .

[bandfred]

Well that sucks.

[kregano]

DrAnaconda wrote...

Very interesting to see all the differing tastes in music here. Looks as though most are very excited about Mansell being on the project. This may be an over-generalization, but those that favor Mansell seem to also favor a more orchestral score. This strikes me as odd. If anything, I would expect Mansell to expand on the retro electronics and atmosphere of the Jack Wall scores, and decrease the scale of the orchestral portions. I think that those who are worried about the electronic dissonance being downplayed have nothing to fear. But I believe that those of us that prefer the score to move even further in the large-scale orchestral direction are going to be disappointed.

Actually, I happen to like a lot of techno stuff, but for whatever reason Jack Wall's stuff never really stuck out to me. I think that's because it was way too synth, like Vengalis's score to Blade Runner (which I am utterly apathetic to), instead of blending traditional sounds and electronic ones like Rob Dougan's Clubbed to Death and some of Joseph Boyd Vigil's stuff. Mansell's Moon score manages to blend the two quite well, so that's what I'm hoping he can do for ME3.

[ShepardsPie]

I have a feeling that ME3 will be more like "The Dark Knight", trailer made it feel more like it and the music will have a somewhat darker feel to it I suppose. Clint or no Clint, I will still buy it!

[Had-to-say]

kregano wrote...

DrAnaconda wrote...

Very interesting to see all the differing tastes in music here. Looks as though most are very excited about Mansell being on the project. This may be an over-generalization, but those that favor Mansell seem to also favor a more orchestral score. This strikes me as odd. If anything, I would expect Mansell to expand on the retro electronics and atmosphere of the Jack Wall scores, and decrease the scale of the orchestral portions. I think that those who are worried about the electronic dissonance being downplayed have nothing to fear. But I believe that those of us that prefer the score to move even further in the large-scale orchestral direction are going to be disappointed.

Actually, I happen to like a lot of techno stuff, but for whatever reason Jack Wall's stuff never really stuck out to me. I think that's because it was way too synth, like Vengalis's score to Blade Runner (which I am utterly apathetic to), instead of blending traditional sounds and electronic ones like Rob Dougan's Clubbed to Death and some of Joseph Boyd Vigil's stuff. Mansell's Moon score manages to blend the two quite well, so that's what I'm hoping he can do for ME3.

I can respect that. Yet millions will disagree about Blade Runner. How did you like the film? It is very, very, very, high on my list.

Modifié par Had-to-say, 12 février 2011 - 05:40 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

WTF!? You do not change composers halfway through a ****ing series!! The soundtrack is a large part in the overall feel of the game, changing styles is ****ing ridiculous.

[Gibb_Shepard]

xXSnak3Eat3rXx wrote...

Another one of my favs:

Man, my anticipation for this game just went through the roof. 

That's not in the least bit Mass Effect. If this is what ME3 turns into, i will be ****ing pissed. I'm ****ing pissed. Changing styles is absolute bull****, this Clint guy better not change the musical style of the game.

[RocShemp]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

xXSnak3Eat3rXx wrote...

Another one of my favs:

Man, my anticipation for this game just went through the roof. 

That's not in the least bit Mass Effect. If this is what ME3 turns into, i will be ****ing pissed. I'm ****ing pissed. Changing styles is absolute bull****, this Clint guy better not change the musical style of the game.

First off, all the links posted in this thread show how varied the guy is when it comes to finding the right music to  fit a specific feature.  And the music of the first to Mass Effect games didn't have one unifying style.  It was an amalgamtion of various styles that beffited a story that featured the amalgamation of various cultures and races.  I've no doubt Clint Mansell will knock it out of the park.  I just wish he was collaborating with Jack Wall and the others.

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

WTF!? You do not change composers halfway through a ****ing series!! The soundtrack is a large part in the overall feel of the game, changing styles is ****ing ridiculous.

It happens all the time in games, movies, and TV shows.  It isn't always a bad thing.  It really depnds on the talent being brought on board and the budget they're given to work with (along with any notes from the studio and/or directors).

Modifié par RocShemp, 12 février 2011 - 06:04 .

[Xephyr829]

Found this track by Sam Hulick on youtube..

Modifié par SpectreWarden91, 12 février 2011 - 06:37 .

[RocShemp]

SpectreWarden91 wrote...

Found this track by Sam Hulick on youtube..

Nice. Maybe they're collaborating with Clint Mansell all along.

[Burdokva]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

Clint Mansell would just be composing new tracks for ME3, just as Christopher Lennertz composed original music for the Overlord and LotSB DLC. (Both of which had awesome soundtracks, IMO) Most casual gamers who don't keep track of the Mass Effect news probably didn't even noticed that a new composer was involved with Overlord or LotSB. I suspect the same will be true with ME3.

I like Lennertz's work, especially on the Medal of Honor series, but I think that LotSB didn't exactly fit with the rest of the soundtrack. It was good, but different.

That's what bothers people. I'm sure Mansell can create a great soundtrack, the problem is can it be consistent with the first two?

[Phaedon]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
That's not in the least bit Mass Effect. If this is what ME3 turns into, i will be ****ing pissed. I'm ****ing pissed. Changing styles is absolute bull****, this Clint guy better not change the musical style of the game.

Relax. Of course the Wrestler will have a different tone of music than Black Swan, and Black Swan will have a different tone of music than the Moon or the Fountain. It's the music that fits the scene, not the other way around. Mostly.

[didymos1120]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Changing styles is absolute bull****, this Clint guy better not change the musical style of the game.

Uh, that already happened in ME2 you know. Most of the music that doesn't quote from ME1 pieces is rather unlike anything in the first game.

[GodWood]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
WTF!? You do not change composers halfway through a ****ing series!! The soundtrack is a large part in the overall feel of the game, changing styles is ****ing ridiculous.

Dude, relax.
You do realise that ME1's soundtrack and ME2's soundtrack were barely similar at all don't you?
Plus, Jack Wall wasn't even involved in Overlord or LotSB and yet this didn't seem to bother you didn't it?

[didymos1120]

GodWood wrote...

Plus, Jack Wall wasn't even involved in Overlord or LotSB and yet this didn't seem to bother you didn't it?

Or Stolen Memory.

[CroGamer002]

xXSnak3Eat3rXx wrote...

^ Bear McCreary would have been awesome as well (in fact, I opened a thread about this a while back) but Clint Mansell is on a whole new level. I still can't believe Bioware got him on the project.

But then Hans Zimmer > both.

What's so special about Hans Zimmer?


People worshiped him in MW2 even though he only did Main Menu theme while rest Lorne Balfe did and he did amazing job.

[Phaedon]

I don't like Zimmer's music a lot for some reason. I prefer Jack Wall, Sam Hulick and Clint Mansell over him.