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[Notlikeyoucare]

Zimmer's scores are too repetitive for my tastes

[JediNg]

He can sod off.  I want Jack Wall back - not some new composer giving his take on how the game should sound.  The game already has established motifs.  WTF BioWare/EA.  Jack and co better still be involved.

Notlikeyoucare wrote...

Zimmer's scores are too repetitive for my tastes

This.

Also, BSG
and Bear McCreary fanatic here too, however as I mentioned in a prior
response, game already has an established sound about it so thumbs down
to new composers.

Modifié par JediNg, 12 février 2011 - 11:14 .

[GodWood]

JediNg wrote...
He can sod off.  I want Jack Wall back - not some new composer giving his take on how the game should sound.

[Apparently] Jack chose to leave on his own.
Besides, Clint Mansell is not just some 'new composer' he's a well renowned professional.
Plus ME1's soundtrack was nothing like ME2's anyway, might as well have been another composer.
So stop freaking out thinking any change is bad.

[didymos1120]

JediNg wrote...

however as I mentioned in a prior response, game already has an established sound about it so thumbs down to new composers.

So would that be the "established" ME1 sound, or the "established" ME2 sound?

[Funker Shepard]

SpectreWarden91 wrote...

Found this track by Sam Hulick on youtube..

Damn. That has the kind of awesome ME2 was lacking, but ME1 had in spades. I hope this gets used.

[Jzadek72]

JediNg wrote...
Also, BSG
and Bear McCreary fanatic here too, however as I mentioned in a prior
response, game already has an established sound about it so thumbs down
to new composers.

This.

[JediNg]

GodWood wrote...

JediNg wrote...
He can sod off.  I want Jack Wall back - not some new composer giving his take on how the game should sound.

[Apparently] Jack chose to leave on his own.
Besides, Clint Mansell is not just some 'new composer' he's a well renowned professional.
Plus ME1's soundtrack was nothing like ME2's anyway, might as well have been another composer.
So stop freaking out thinking any change is bad.

It isn't about him being new to the scene - it's about him being new to the series.  I didn't freak out over the change from ME to ME2's combat.  But what I hate is related soundtracks that sound like night, so i'll 'freak out' as much as I want.

[JediNg]

didymos1120 wrote...

JediNg wrote...

however as I mentioned in a prior response, game already has an established sound about it so thumbs down to new composers.

So would that be the "established" ME1 sound, or the "established" ME2 sound?

Go listen to the soundtracks again.  They tend to be emotion evoking, and sometimes appropriately eerie pieces, without being in your face, yet still obvious enough that one will go hey this music's pretty good.  I forsee either obnoxious blaring like in Inception, or overly subdued background ambient.  No thanks.

[JediNg]

Jzadek72 wrote...

JediNg wrote...
Also, BSG
and Bear McCreary fanatic here too, however as I mentioned in a prior
response, game already has an established sound about it so thumbs down
to new composers.

This.

You'll know what I'm talking about if you watch the Miniseries, then watch the rest of the series proper.  Music is totally different.  Gibbs' work was amazing.  And so is McCreary's, but they are definitely not the same.   Getting established professionals in to work on already established series whose music is done by other composers makes me nervous.

PS. Now I want to listen to the BSG soundtracks again.  Only been listening to ME and ME2's.  I guess its time... BSG soundtracks always sound amazing after not listening to them for a while

[JediNg]

AwesomeName wrote...

Why would it be anything like Inception? This is Clint Mansell, not Hans Zimmer...

It was just an example of how widly different tossing in a new composer would make the resulting sound.. I didn't mean literally like Inception lol.

[CroGamer002]

^Hans Zimmer did Inception music?


Now I get it why he is worshiped that much.

[JediNg]

Mesina2 wrote...

^Hans Zimmer did Inception music?


Now I get it why he is worshiped that much.

Yeah.  The blaring 'theme' is just the first few seconds of Edith Piaf's Non, Je Regrette Rien slowed down to 1/4 actual speed and then adjusted a little.  Fun fact, kinda cool.  But yeah he did the music.  I'm not a huge fan of his work, but i'm not saying its crap either =P

[JediNg]

AwesomeName wrote...

JediNg wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

Why would it be anything like Inception? This is Clint Mansell, not Hans Zimmer...

It was just an example of how widly different tossing in a new composer would make the resulting sound.. I didn't mean literally like Inception lol.

Yeah I can see that - I was trying to highlight your ignorance of Clint Mansell's work.  I would familiarise yourself first if I were you.  His score for the Fountain is one of the best ever made in my humble opinion.

Fair enough.  I admit I haven't really heard his work.  I just saw someone mention requiem of a dream and then all I could think of was that annoying, overused piece of crap that people keep using in videos.  Goes by some latin name I think.  Insta-rage.  lol.

[CroGamer002]

JediNg wrote...

Fair enough.  I admit I haven't really heard his work.  I just saw someone mention requiem of a dream and then all I could think of was that annoying, overused piece of crap that people keep using in videos.  Goes by some latin name I think.  Insta-rage.  lol.

It's not crap!

It is overused for good reason.

[JediNg]

Mesina2 wrote...

JediNg wrote...

Fair enough.  I admit I haven't really heard his work.  I just saw someone mention requiem of a dream and then all I could think of was that annoying, overused piece of crap that people keep using in videos.  Goes by some latin name I think.  Insta-rage.  lol.

It's not crap!

It is overused for good reason.

Oh god, I hate it so much.
Ever since I first heard it, I hated it lol.

[Phaedon]

didymos1120 wrote...
So would that be the "established" ME1 sound, or the "established" ME2 sound?

Yup, the only motif that passed from ME1 to 2 is Vigil.

[aeetos21]

No two composers have the same exact style, they wouldn't be artists if they did. But I'm always open to trying new things and giving people a chance. I've listened to some of his music linked here and didn't find much similar in the way of past Mass Effect music but then again there haven't been all that many medias on the scale of Mass Effect before so...?

[Phaedon]

aeetos21 wrote...

No two composers have the same exact style, they wouldn't be artists if they did. But I'm always open to trying new things and giving people a chance. I've listened to some of his music linked here and didn't find much similar in the way of past Mass Effect music but then again there haven't been all that many medias on the scale of Mass Effect before so...?

That's probably because the only 'sci-fi' music that he has done is Moon's OST. And that by itself, is a lot different than ME. However, no decent artist maintains the same tone and style throughout different genres. 

[CroGamer002]

Phaedon wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
So would that be the "established" ME1 sound, or the "established" ME2 sound?

Yup, the only motif that passed from ME1 to 2 is Vigil.

And Flux.
Also Romance theme from ME1 is in LotSB.

Modifié par Mesina2, 12 février 2011 - 02:23 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Mesina2 wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
So would that be the "established" ME1 sound, or the "established" ME2 sound?

Yup, the only motif that passed from ME1 to 2 is Vigil.

And Flux.
Also Romance theme from ME1 is in LotSB.

The Galaxy Map theme (i.e. Uncharted Worlds) also passed to ME2, except it was "optimized" by the additional tune that plays whilst scanning a planet.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 12 février 2011 - 02:40 .

[JediNg]

AwesomeName wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

aeetos21 wrote...

No two composers have the same exact style, they wouldn't be artists if they did. But I'm always open to trying new things and giving people a chance. I've listened to some of his music linked here and didn't find much similar in the way of past Mass Effect music but then again there haven't been all that many medias on the scale of Mass Effect before so...?

That's probably because the only 'sci-fi' music that he has done is Moon's OST. And that by itself, is a lot different than ME. However, no decent artist maintains the same tone and style throughout different genres. 

I would strongly argue The Fountain was sci-fi - plus there's Doom.  But they all sound different to each other (therefore there's no reason to think ME3 will sound like Moon - it'll sound like ME, but with Clint's "signature" on it).  But in any case, yeah, none of his scores sound like Mass Effect, but of course, why would they, right?  In any case, it's not as if this guy is not going to know how to create something that sounds Mass Effect given that he'll have 2 games worth of reference right in front of him.  If he doesn't know how to expand ME's music with his own, then I don't know how to explain why his music for Black Swan worked so well.

Already not boding well imo.
I didn't even realize Doom (film) had music.  Could be the fact that I thought the movie was a joke whilst watching it.  Moon was amazing, but like in Doom, I didn't even realize there was music.  That wasn't the case for Mass Effect nor Mass Effect 2 for me.  From when the intro scene played in Mass Effect, to when Harbinger releases control, I was keenly aware of the music.  Not simply aware, but the music made its presence known, without being obnoxious, and yet not pushed into the far background.  This Clint has a lot to live up to, lol.

Modifié par JediNg, 12 février 2011 - 02:55 .