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Why Anders and not Sigrun?


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Why scooby and not Fred?

Modifié par stephen1493, 10 février 2011 - 03:39 .


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Solostran85 wrote...

They made an interesting choice going with Anders, especially since what has happened to him. Sigrun just seemed dull to me, she doesn't seem like she would have much of a story to tell in this game. And who in the right mind would want to romance a dwarf?

FemHawke and Varric is one of my desired romances in DA2. Heck if he's not better than the dysfunctional twins, Fenris and Anders I'll go heave. 

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All I meant was, if they wanted Valenna, you're killing her would be handwaved...


.. :lol: not killed, liked. Though I understand how you might have thought I said the former given the general sentiment toward her.

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I adored Sigrun, and I think she probably had my favourite voice. It was so smokey, and she was so perky and cute. I also didn't find Velanna nearly as irritating as most people did. I would go so far as to say that I liked her, but I also love Grey DeLisle.

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Never liked Sigrun. However this could probably be attributed to the fact that her quest was glitched for the longest time.

Hated the elf girl. Anders was alright. Really liked Nathaniel and Justice the most in Awakenings.


Is she still glitched or have have they released a patch yet? :unsure:

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jackkel dragon wrote...

As much as I liked Sigrun, isn't she dead? It's heavily implied in every ending I've had where she wasn't killed that she went to finish her job (dying) in the Deep Roads.

The best ending for her involved her staying with the wardens.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

The party banter in Awakening certainly indicates that something like the Anders/Justice joining might happen. I'm running my human noble rogue (queen!) through Awakening now, so the conversations between Anders/Nathaniel/Justice about Fade spirits, host bodies, and Anders' issues with the Circle, etc.is pretty fresh atm.


Based on the banter I saw, I would have guessed Nathaniel would have been the more likely host. It really seemed like he was nearly suggesting it at one point.

But I'm really glad it was Anders instead. I found Nathan incredibly dull.


For a Howe, I'm not sure that seeming dull is a bad thing - hah! Despite the whole Cousland family murder-spree by his dad, Nate was a decent guy (also kind of not bad looking - heh). I can see why you'd choose Nate as the likeliest candidate;  he and Justice seem to have had the deepest conversations as far as the banter goes.

However, when I was playing earlier that bit where Justice encourages Anders about rebelling against the templars/Chantry popped up. I think Justice tends to be attracted to causes (like the trapped villagers in the Black Marsh), and maybe that's why he ultimately ended up with Anders.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 10 février 2011 - 03:55 .


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stephen1493 wrote...

dreamextractor wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

Why Anders and not Oghren?


!!!

I SECOND THIS!!!

BIOWARE SHOULD BE ASHASMED OF THEMSELVES FOR PICKING ANDERS OVER EVERYONE'S FAVORITE CHARACTER! And not allowing Oghren to be romanceable is just a crime against humanity! Oghren was the most EPIC character of all time. I loved him so much. He should have dumped that girlfriend of his my Warden would treat him so much better  :crying: :crying: :crying:

*pats on back*

we know... we know...

Who needs Isabela, Merrill, and Vanders when you could have had OGHREN AGAIN :crying:

stephen1493 wrote...

Why scooby and not Fred?


And why Fred and not Velma? Velma is so much better than Fred [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

Modifié par dreamextractor, 10 février 2011 - 03:48 .


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Why Anders and not Sigrun?  Here's my take on it.  So far Bioware has completely failed to show any in game justification for how the Chantry treats mages, and abominations (both rate and danger level) simply don't seem to be up to what is advertised.

What better way then then to force us to take a formerly a favorite character that by the illogical wave of the writer's pen has become an abomination (sarc).

-Polaris

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I also would much rather see Sigrun again rather than Anders and/or Justice, but there's plenty of other things about the game that look cool, so whatevs.

Modifié par kyles3, 10 février 2011 - 03:50 .


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The odds of seeing Sigrun again are pretty unlikely, but I'd still like to see some other perky female dwarven LI in DA3.

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dreamextractor wrote...

stephen1493 wrote...

dreamextractor wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

Why Anders and not Oghren?


!!!

I SECOND THIS!!!

BIOWARE SHOULD BE ASHASMED OF THEMSELVES FOR PICKING ANDERS OVER EVERYONE'S FAVORITE CHARACTER! And not allowing Oghren to be romanceable is just a crime against humanity! Oghren was the most EPIC character of all time. I loved him so much. He should have dumped that girlfriend of his my Warden would treat him so much better  :crying: :crying: :crying:

*pats on back*

we know... we know...

Who needs Isabela, Merrill, and Vanders when you could have had OGHREN AGAIN :crying:

stephen1493 wrote...

Why scooby and not Fred?


And why Fred and not Velma? Velma is so much better than Fred ../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png


Creeper > Velma

There I said it.

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Sigrun, imo, was very dull. It may be because I always recruited her last, or my dislike for dwarfs in general, but I didn't like her that much. But if she was returning for DA2 instead of Anders, I wouldn't complain. It'd be nice to see her fleshed out more as a character in a future game, though, if she returns that is.

(She always got the "Left for her calling" epilogue slide in my 3 awakening playthroughs.)

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...
Why the Thorian and not Sir Roderick Ponce Von Fontlebottom the Magnificent Bastard? DAT STACHE.


This. John Cleese in DA2 would be EPIC!

Anywho, yeah I wouldn't have minded seeing Sigrun come back as well. I certainly would've liked her as a romance option. (Why do we not have any female dwarves as romance options? I like short women.) But Anders is pretty good too. I'll like seeing him and Justice again.

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Dr. wonderful wrote...
Creeper > Velma

There I said it.


HEATHEN!!!!!!

Also, if I am going to be completely honest and serious in this post: I would rather see Velanna before I saw Sigrun (even though I really enjoyed her character) again in another Dragon Age game (or DLC), because of how unresolved her story is.

/ducks and covers

Modifié par dreamextractor, 10 février 2011 - 03:56 .


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As simple as this! Sigrun has no story to tell it was finished in awakening and her charater was a little happy for me

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I don't get why folks have such a hate-on for Velanna. So she misjudged a situation and killed a bunch of people. Haven't we all?

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As simple as this! Sigrun has no story to tell it was finished in awakening and her charater was a little happy for me




Right. Her best ending is spending the rest of her life fighting Darkspawn.



Anders is the only one that makes sense. Unless you killed him, I suppose, but you'd have to be a fool to let the Architect walk, regardless.

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kyles3 wrote...

I don't get why folks have such a hate-on for Velanna. So she misjudged a situation and killed a bunch of people. Haven't we all?


Um no.  The problem a lot of us have with Velanna is that she not only misjudged a situation that she should not have (10 minutes of any real investigation would have reveated the truth, and Oghren of all people knew that something was wrong with Velanna's story in 10 seconds...and if Oghren can see it, anyone should be able to).

What's worse is even after she admits that the Darkspawn were responsible, she shows no sign of regret or remorse EVER and figures, that if humans weren't guilty of this "genocidal crime" (and she uses those words), then they are guilty of some other, so who cares?

Put a real life criminal in front of me that is clearly guilty of mass murder (and Velanna is) with as little sign of regret or remose that she shows, and I'll happily kill her as a service to society.  Even the DALISH tend to agree with that (which is why she was exiled to begin with!)

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Nevermind :B

Modifié par dreamextractor, 10 février 2011 - 04:09 .


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IanPolaris wrote...

kyles3 wrote...

I don't get why folks have such a hate-on for Velanna. So she misjudged a situation and killed a bunch of people. Haven't we all?


Um no.  The problem a lot of us have with Velanna is that she not only misjudged a situation that she should not have (10 minutes of any real investigation would have reveated the truth, and Oghren of all people knew that something was wrong with Velanna's story in 10 seconds...and if Oghren can see it, anyone should be able to).

What's worse is even after she admits that the Darkspawn were responsible, she shows no sign of regret or remorse EVER and figures, that if humans weren't guilty of this "genocidal crime" (and she uses those words), then they are guilty of some other, so who cares?

Put a real life criminal in front of me that is clearly guilty of mass murder (and Velanna is) with as little sign of regret or remose that she shows, and I'll happily kill her as a service to society.  Even the DALISH tend to agree with that (which is why she was exiled to begin with!)

-Polaris


http://dragonage.wik...nna_and_Justice

I'll direct you to this.

  • Velanna: What sort of atonement would be appropriate?
  • Justice: You have reconsidered, then?
  • Velanna: I am simply curious to hear what you think would be suitable.
  • Justice: Teach them. Show these humans what they are so carelessly destroying.
  • Velanna: And if they do not listen?
  • Justice: Then you have done what you could.
  • Velanna: It's... worth thinking about.
Seems to me that talking with Justice gets her thinking about it more than she'd like to admit.

Modifié par dreamextractor, 10 février 2011 - 04:11 .


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But Mr. Polaris, aren't we all guilty of mass murder? It's like Jesus said, "Let he who is without a whole forest of corpses cast the first stone."

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dreamextractor wrote...

[http://dragonage.wik...nna_and_Justice

I'll direct you to this.

  • Velanna: What sort of atonement would be appropriate?
  • Justice: You have reconsidered, then?
  • Velanna: I am simply curious to hear what you think would be suitable.
  • Justice: Teach them. Show these humans what they are so carelessly destroying.
  • Velanna: And if they do not listen?
  • Justice: Then you have done what you could.
  • Velanna: It's... worth thinking about.
Seems to me that talking with Justice gets her thinking about it more than she'd like to admit.

That doesn't show remorse to me.  If anything it shows she's playing with Justice and Justice and Velanna if you have both of them together do NOT get along.  If you try to get Velanna to admit responsibility she wracks up a -4 approval and it goes downhill from there.  In fact almost any sane thing you say to Velanna nets disapproval.  The Mass murderer isn't worth my time and doesn't deserve to live anyway.  Even the Dalish agree with that.
-Polaris

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Because people liked Anders more than Sigrun. Anders is a more interesting character to develop. Plus he has a kitty.
:P

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kyles3 wrote...

But Mr. Polaris, aren't we all guilty of mass murder? It's like Jesus said, "Let he who is without a whole forest of corpses cast the first stone."


No, I think I can safely say that while we all "sin" in the religious sense (or transgress on others in the social sense), most of us aren't mass murderers.

Just guessing here....

-Polaris