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[InvaderErl]

mrsph wrote...

Most people are only going to pick the default Shepard, play through the game once (maybe not even that), thing it was cool and never play it again.

The internet is a surprising minority.

This.

[Yakko77]

InvaderErl wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Most people are only going to pick the default Shepard, play through the game once (maybe not even that), thing it was cool and never play it again.

The internet is a surprising minority.

This.

Yeah, if BW  were to say that ME3 was only to have maleshep, imagine how much their sales would fall.

[InvaderErl]

[Chaos-fusion]

InvaderErl wrote...

Dude that's not a logical argument at all, most people don't make YouTube videos.

http://tvtropes.org/...WritersAreGirls

Thanks. Thanks alot. Gonna be stuck there for hours now.

That said, I expected male Shep to be more popular, but.. sheesh. I was hoping it would be more along the lines of 60-70%. But, I'm guessing (deluding myself?) there were enough playthroughs counted that 18% is still a lrge number in total. Popularity of the soldier isn't a suprise though. As for romance, throw in another vote for Miranda being the most popular. Simply because she's the hottest by conventional standards.

[InvaderErl]

The first time I went on TvTropes that almost LITERALLY happened.

Chaos-fusion wrote...
Thanks. Thanks alot. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie] Gonna be stuck there for hours now.

We're going to need the Jaws of Life in here!

Modifié par InvaderErl, 12 février 2011 - 01:02 .

[wizardryforever]

Yakko77 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Still that only 18% people played FemShep?

That's very hard to believe considering her popularity and praise from many websites.

Either Femshep fans are the minority by a large number but are exceptionally dedicated or these numbers are somehow off.

I  tend to think femshep players are NOT a minority AND  they are exceptionally dedicated to a well voiced character.

So you're saying that more than 50% of all players use FemShep?  Because that's what it would take to not be in the minority.  And frankly, most casual players are male and will pick the male character.  And I would say that the casual players account for most of these statistics.  I don't see FemShep as being so wildly popular to have those kinds of numbers.

[jwalker]

Jebel Krong wrote...

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Mesina2 wrote...

I still don't get it why Engineer is least played class.

It's the least intuitive class to pick. 

it's generally the most indirect class, most people don't like to be divorced from the action - that's just human nature.

I disagree. The class is not divorced from the action. The player is.

Engineer: up close and personal

[Cru Hunter]

fmsantos39 wrote...

Cru Hunter wrote...

The fact that people played as soldiers kind of annoys me: We always complain about how every shooter has a space marine in it, then when gamers are given the chance to play as one out of multiple unique and fun classes, they choose the generic soldier. I don't really get it.

But there is no denying the soldier's usefulness. I guess it's just weird that so many people used it.

if you do a quick shepard u standardly have soldier as class, if any other class was the standard that class would dominate;)

Good point, although does make me wonder how many people still care about it in that case. It's not like Bioware makes it hard for you to know there are more unique classes...

[JrayM16]

I think class names have a lot to do with it. I mean, take all the names: Soldier, Engineer, vanguard, sentinel, infiltrator, adept. Vanguard, Sentinel, and Adeptm don't communicate anything through the name, engineer as a name will turn people off, and infiltrator might indicate stealth, not something people want to play.



And even if you look at descriptions, new palyers aren't gonna know what biotics are or ever have seen them in action, so how would they know they might want to play a biotics oriented class?

[swenson]

Yeah, the numbers really surprised me at first too, but then I realized that the fans on the Internet are hardly indicative of the entire player base. I'd say if you just took the really obsessive fans--the ones who replay the games more than once, at least--they'd come out much differently.



For example, between the two games, I have four different Sheps (some carried over between the two, of course) of different genders (three female, one male) and I've tried several different classes. But I can definitely see the average gamer guy (and as much as I hate to admit it, the average gamer guy is probably a male FPS fan) just going with the default character (because guys don't want to play as a girl, I guess?) and picking the class that sounds like it's going to blow up the most stuff (soldier).



What was more surprising for me (and continues to be surprising) is the loyalty mission thing. I just sort of took it for granted that of course everyone would do all of the loyalty missions, except for maybe Legion's if they missed it at the end.



(I should add that none of this is meant as an attack or something on FPS fans. I'm an FPS fan myself; the Half-Life games are some of the finest games ever made, for example. It's just that if someone is a strong FPS fan, it's only natural that the RPG elements of ME aren't going to hold their attention as much. I'm also not bashing male gamers for playing as guys. I play primarily as a female character if it's possible because I like playing as a character with the same gender as me, so I obviously am not going to criticize guys for doing the same thing!)

[Lumikki]

Cru Hunter wrote...

fmsantos39 wrote...

Cru Hunter wrote...

The fact that people played as soldiers kind of annoys me: We always complain about how every shooter has a space marine in it, then when gamers are given the chance to play as one out of multiple unique and fun classes, they choose the generic soldier. I don't really get it.

But there is no denying the soldier's usefulness. I guess it's just weird that so many people used it.

if you do a quick shepard u standardly have soldier as class, if any other class was the standard that class would dominate;)

Good point, although does make me wonder how many people still care about it in that case. It's not like Bioware makes it hard for you to know there are more unique classes...

Other question is why would anyone else be annoyed what class others people choose to play in SINGLE PLAYER GAME? It's like attitude that if anyone else doesn't behave like me, they are...?

I my self played mostly female and infiltrator and all where customized. Why I choosed that class? Because I liked long range and stealth kind of solder. I don't really wanna play magic users in sci-fi games.

Did you people also notice that 80% of players did customize they characters. What means only 20% of players selected default Shepards as not customizing at all.

Modifié par Lumikki, 12 février 2011 - 05:18 .

[jeweledleah]

the reasons for popularity of Soldier male shepard are very simple. its the default class, a canon so to speak. there's a lot of customization involved in playing Mass effect, but for a lot of people, they focus on appearance more so then a class, so they might change the way their Shepard looks, but for the first play through - will go with the obvious.

I wonder how those statistics reflect multiple playthroughs, because I cannot be the only person that gave most every class/origin/gender combo a try.

TV tropes are a trap.  its impossible to look at just one page, absolutely impossible.  if you are avery lucky and very strong willed, you'll managed to get out after quater of an hour, but otherwise?  we'll see you in few days....maybe.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 12 février 2011 - 03:21 .

[Yakko77]

jwalker wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

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Mesina2 wrote...

I still don't get it why Engineer is least played class.

It's the least intuitive class to pick. 

it's generally the most indirect class, most people don't like to be divorced from the action - that's just human nature.

I disagree. The class is not divorced from the action. The player is.

Engineer: up close and personal

Thank you.

[AlanC9]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...


Not to mention not every Mass Effect player plays the game online. I always play my game on an off-line profile.

It's not clear that the profile is relevant. From EA's privacy policy, which supersedes the ME2 EULA:

EA also uses its own proprietary analytic metrics tool and other third party analytics technologies to collect non-personal information when you use our online products and services and/or play our games on your PC, game system and/or mobile device. These tools and technologies use server log files, web beacons, cookies and other tracking technologies to collect and analyze certain types of information, including cookies, IP addresses, mobile or other hardware device ID browser types, browser language, referring and exit pages, and URLs, platform type, the number of clicks, information about your media, domain names, landing pages, pages viewed and the order of those pages, the amount of time spent on particular pages, other Internet and website usage information, game state and the date and time of activity on our websites or games, information about how your game is used, including game statistics, feature usage and purchase history, as well as MAC Address, mobile ID (if applicable) and other similar information. 

Itals mine.

You gotta read this stuff, people.

[AlanC9]

jeweledleah wrote...
I wonder how those statistics reflect multiple playthroughs, because I cannot be the only person that gave most every class/origin/gender combo a try. 

I can't speak for ME, but over on the DA board one of the devs confirmed that most players never played nonhumans. At all. 

In relevant part:

As for the figures we have, our telemetry is able to break down unique accounts that play the game more than once or restart-- and the figures I quoted for DAO are the number of unique accounts that ever played an origin, whether it was all the way to the end or not. I'm not going to start rattling off figures (since I don't have them in front of me, and wouldn't be at liberty to start handing them out even if they were) but I do recall the dwarven origins being 5% of the total (3% dwarf noble, 2% dwarf commoner). The elven figure was higher, but still a fair distance from the human noble and human mage.

[jwalker]

mrsph wrote...

Sucks. Because I thought the elf commoner (female anyway), dwarf commoner, and dwarf noble origins were the best written.

I wonder what the percentage of people who downloaded DLC is. Probably way smaller than people think.

Those numbers surprised me as well. I'm finishing my 6th run. Only one was human.
And yes, CEF is my fave origin, followed really close by the dwarf ones.

[jeweledleah]

huh..interesting. my very first DAO character was a female city elf and I only rolled a human as a throwaway character in order to have my avatar.

[Rusted Cage]

AlanC9 wrote...

Jade Elf wrote...

The problem with the stats posted is what they don't include. Minor things like for example the total number of individual players(1000? 10,000? 500,000?) and in what time frame the stats were gathered (2 weeks? 6 months?)

Almost certainly more than 500,000 and more than 6 months. The data collecting process is opt-out, right, so unless your gaming rig isn't connected to the internet or you opted out, you're in there. And if it's a November interview, why do you think that they might be pulling old data?

It would be cool to see the raw data wouldn't it? As for the 18% female Shepards, that could be quite a high number if the stat is based on a large percentage of copies sold. Nearly a 1/4 of players choose a female Shepard doesn't sound as bad, does it?

Thanks for the link Invader Erl. I understand the whole Edward/Jacob thing that went on a while back a little clearer now...

[FellowerOfOdin]

Yakko77 wrote...


I  tend to think femshep players are NOT a minority AND  they are exceptionally dedicated to a well voiced character.

If you seriously think that most players played a FemShep, you might want to open your eyes and read a few statistics on gender specific internet use.

[Rusted Cage]

Anyone tempted to play a Female engineer now?

[Motherlander]

On reflection I don't find the statistics surprising.



As as been said, soldier is the default class and new players will pick it. In ME2, my first playthrough was soldier, as I wasn't sure how the game would play. Also newcomers are often recommended to play soldier class on their first playthrough. The fans who do several playthroughs will almost certainly do at least one playthrough with solder. While many who only play the game once will often pick solder.



The Manshep/Femshep statistic is dissappointing, but not surprising. The male Shep is the default gender, and many gamers will choose him for their first and sometimes only playthrough. Most gamers are male and will choose their own gender. In ME1, I did my first playthrough with a Male default Shep, although I prefer Femshep now. Also, even those that play Femshep will also likely do one or two playthroughs with a Manshep, while those that prefer Manshep may never play Femshep at all..



Finally, in my opinion, the ManShep Love interests are more interesting. I don't really like any of the Femshep LI's, but I like just about all the Manshep's LIs. Just an opinion though.