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#126
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Saibh wrote...

They have an inferiority complex.

A major one.

And you're clearly yet another major fanboy embarrasing this community by attempting to psychoanalyze another developer.

Nice going, doc.

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That's a rather immature comment by CD. I'm reminded by RIFT's comment about WoW, definitely prodding the 600lbs gorrila.

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Herr Uhl

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Giantdeathrobot wrote...

Rest is just the guy preaching at his own choir. And judging by the Wtcher boards, fans of the original aren't any more happy than fans of Origins towards the sequel.


Oh, what is the problem there?

Marionetten wrote...

Which is even more ****ed up. To imply that they're suffering for some sort of inferiority complex for daring to compare their game to BioWare's? I'm honestly embarrassed to be a BioWare fan right now.


It seems that way when the devs seem to take any opportunity to say that their game is better on every plane. Seems petty.

Edit: I just broke the world record for seems in two sentences, yay me!

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 10 février 2011 - 08:43 .


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Marionetten wrote...
And you're clearly yet another major fanboy embarrasing this community by attempting to psychoanalyze another developer.

Nice going, doc.


Would be more civil to say you disagree.

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Chaia wrote...

well Yahtzee can summerise it better then I can.


Wow. That is a very funny commentary! I wonder what he said about DA:O

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Dragon Age 2 vs The Witcher 2.

Buy your tickets, and popcorn here folks!

#132
Herr Uhl

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Rimfrost wrote...

Chaia wrote...

well Yahtzee can summerise it better then I can.


Wow. That is a very funny commentary! I wonder what he said about DA:O


This.

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Saibh wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

Which is even more ****ed up. To imply that they're suffering for some sort of inferiority complex for daring to compare their game to BioWare's? I'm honestly embarrassed to be a BioWare fan right now.


I already provided two links where they have bashed BioWare or claimed they were some how better than BioWare before.

They have an inferiority complex.

A major one.


Marionetten is someone who thinks that Day 1 DLC is " the biggest scam in the industry." Whatever your opinion on that topic, it's clear that he displays rabid fanaticism. He's already resorted to personal insults.

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in this thread, nerds rage.

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Marionetten wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Not seeing it but since you're just here to troll, I guess I should just ignore you, "Witcher fanboy".

Of course I'm just a troll. I did after all prove that your original point was nothing but condescending bull****. Something which you're clearly in the habit of spouting.


As far as I can tell, you've only proved that you can swear a lot, insult people and show that GZ made some facepalm-worthy commentary. The actual BW devs certainly haven't, to my knowledge, said anything even remotely jerk-like about their competition.

You don't seem to be very interested in posting in a reasoned manner to support anything that that Witcher dev said (assume he's a dev since I'm not familiar with them). I'd be interested in seeing if you can support their claim that their fantasy setting is somehow less generic than any other fantasy setting.

#136
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They've got to sell their game, so saying it's better than DA2 is understandable. The Witcher 2's graphics do look good, but like someone said earlier, if I wanted pretty graphics I'd go play Crysis.I'm also confident that Bioware are big enough to take the comment in their stride and ignore it.



Still, this was a good laugh to read, thanks OP ;)

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Graphics are better on the technical part in TW2. DA:O graphics were dated and DA2 does not get any significant improvements.



The style is very different as well. DA2 has a pretty cartoony look with JRPG influences (gay emo elf) whereas TW2 has a very mature atmosphere + graphics. While Bioware with DA2 wants to broaden their audience while alienating others, TW2 keeps true to the fans of the first parts.



So yes, he is completely right. Bioware has last gen graphics, TW2 has state of the art graphics. It's not about which is the better game. It's about better graphics. And TW2 does have better graphics...end of the story.

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Heh, that was a good laugh. Really. Childish developer trashtalking.
:lol:

I never found The Witcher that appealing. And honestly, anyone who holds graphics in high regard over gameplay and story can rot in a pit for all I care.

Modifié par HyperLimited, 10 février 2011 - 08:43 .


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Well Dragon Age didn't have any kind of morality meter like the Mass Effect games, you could be rightout evil, the type that gets things done, or be the goody-two shoes, the only reactions you got were from your companions, who were either nice or meanies!



The graphics are better in TW2 imo, but I dont care that much, I still look forward to DA2 alot more than TW2.

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Saibh wrote...
I'd laugh if it was.

Let me find that quote. Here.

Oh, but here's another one. He added that it's his "private opinion". On a public website? 

Arrogant sons-a, aren't they?


Oh my, just read both links and I can' help laughing. I mean I thought Witcher 1 was a decent game and Witcher 2 has stunning graphics and all but I think Bioware games have their own merit as well. I use to respect CDProjekt till they started saying stuff like this.

Eurogamer: Which games do you think are influenced by The Witcher?

This is going to be bold, right, but I think Mass Effect was and Dragon Age was for sure, because we made some things that weren't really that popular in RPGs at the time.


Seriously? I highly, highly, doubt that Bioware took inspiration from The Witcher at all, I'm pretty sure they were very deep into development before the Witcher even came out. This is blantantly CDProjekt tooting their own horn. If anything, they took hints on how NOT to do characters and dialogue.

Also in the choice-and-consequence department. Dragon Age really was influenced by us and that's great, because it's a genre that doesn't have that many games and it's not like that serious a competition


:lol: Seriously? Actually? Bioware games have been doing the choice-consequence mechanism before CDProjekt was ever making games, what are they on about? Do they seriously think that the Witcher 1 was some sort of revolutionary game that changed the RPG landscape forever? I'm not a Bioware sympathizer nor a CDProjekt one, but this is ridiculious. Not to mention the other comments as well.

Modifié par MortalEngines, 10 février 2011 - 08:45 .


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Merced652 wrote...

in this thread, nerds rage.


Yes, Mr Gop spoke blasphemy!!

#142
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All right, everyone cut it out! We can disagree with each other without the name-calling, labeling, and childish bickering, so let's please remember to play nice or I'm turning this forum right around and going home. And for monkey's sake, stop swearing!



Marionetten, Dave of Canada, get a room if you're going to continue to snipe at each other. thank you.

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Marionetten

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I just think you're all overreacting. Developers do this all the time. Especially when it comes to their competition. BioWare even took a shot at the JRPG industry.

Modifié par Marionetten, 10 février 2011 - 08:45 .


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Amyntas wrote...

I can't say i disagree in the graphics department, I've said the same thing myself, but I'm not even remotely interested in the Witcher 2. The game seems to appeal too much to the teenage definition of "mature" with its sex cards and other nonsense.


And the "push a button and something awesome happens" super fast, blow up everyone you hit, "man, he's so BAD ASS" action is appealing to the mature player base how? Don't fool yourself. DA2 is directed at that same teen/X-Bro player base.

And to everyone complaining about what he said: They asked him a question, and he answered. He didn't go "Hey, dude, let me tell you how I fell about DA2!". They asked, he answered. The end.

He's right. The Witcher 2 has much better graphics. People comparing them on a story level? You Bioware fanboys keep telling everyone to not judge DA2 until they at least play the demo. Maybe you should practice what you preach? 

And, DA:O was pretty black and white. It's already been spelled out here (kill the boy, kill his mom, or, wait while I go clear a tower and come back to save the day). What was black and white about siding with either genocidal humans, or women and children murdering elven/dwarven rebels, or try to stay out of it and letting the world consume itself? Seriously, play the game, or at least do a modicum of research before spewing ignorant filth about something you know nothing about.

Modifié par Captain Sassy Pants, 10 février 2011 - 08:45 .


#145
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Stanley Woo wrote...

Dave of Canada, get a room if you're going to continue to snipe at each other. thank you.


We all know the Canadian military have the best snipers!

/kidding

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If he would have left it at 'The Witcher has better graphics' I'd agree, but otherwise he's full of sh-t.

I played both The Witcher and and DA:O and I didn't find the setting of the Witcher to be any less generic or the choices any less black & white.

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lol that producer sounds like he's a member of the BSN.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Dave of Canada, get a room if you're going to continue to snipe at each other. thank you.


We all know the Canadian military have the best snipers!

/kidding


I'd be your moose ;)

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Marionetten wrote...

Saibh wrote...

They have an inferiority complex.

A major one.

And you're clearly yet another major fanboy embarrasing this community by attempting to psychoanalyze another developer.

Nice going, doc.


1. Saibh is a fangirl.
2. Secondly, DA2 is much better on the story.
3. Grahpics....true the Witcher is better, but in my opinion I'd rather have good content than good graphics.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Rimfrost wrote...

Chaia wrote...

well Yahtzee can summerise it better then I can.


Wow. That is a very funny commentary! I wonder what he said about DA:O


This.


Cool. Not as biting but still good. Both are funny!