22 réponses à ce sujet

[bennyc72]

This might have been discussed already, if so, sorry. Just wondering what people think Ash and Kaidan's special abilities/powers might be if we're treated to the all-but-announced DLC that has them team up with us heading into ME3? For some reason, I could see Ash getting Carnage, since it's in ME2 but none of the squaddies have it -- even though it's a shotgun power and she seems more like an assault rifle type. Kaidan? Meh. Who knows? Barrier? What do y'all think?

Modifié par bennyc72, 10 février 2011 - 09:50 .

[Ryzaki]

Doesn't Jacob have barrier?

I think he'd get Sabotage. Or lift.  

Modifié par Ryzaki, 10 février 2011 - 09:44 .

[bennyc72]

My bad on the SP of Kaidan. Fixed now, hopefully.



Sabotage or lift, eh? Yeah... I could see that. They did stasis up for Liara, so I guess they could come up with something fresh (in ME2) for K.

[philiposophy]

Sabotage for Kaidan, Overkill for Ashley. Overkill would have to work as a power that just allows you to fire two shots per bullet or something since the systems have changed.

Also, I didn't suggest Immunity for Ashley because it's perfect for Wrex if he ever has to join up even for just a brief time, imo.

[Biotic_Warlock]

Ash might have some alien slayer shot power (she dont like aliens methinks).



idk what kaiden would have,

[AdmiralCheez]

MASSIVE F*CKING EDIT BECAUSE I HAD A BETTER IDEA.

Ashley -
Cryo Ammo
Disruptor Ammo
Alliance Marine (passive)
   --Alliance Shock Trooper (increases weapon damage)
   --Alliance Commando (increases health)
Overkill (loyalty)
   --Rank 1: increases weapon damage and rate of fire by 20% for ten seconds
   --Rank 2: increases weapon damage and rate of fire by 30% for ten seconds.  Reload time reduced by 25%.
   --Rank 3: increases weapon damage, rate of fire, and accuracy by 40% for ten seconds.  Reload time reduced by 50%.
  --Rank 4: Evolves into either Sustained Overkill or Maximum Overkill
      ---Sustained Overkill: Overkill's effects last for 15 seconds.
      ---Maximum Overkill: Damage, rate of fire, and accuracy increased by 65%.
  ----------DRAWBACK: Since it does not increase clip size, using this power too much will cause you to run out of ammo.

Kaidan-
Shockwave (u mad?)
Cryo Blast
Alliance Officer (passive)
   --Alliance Tactitian (increases health and decreases power cooldown)
   --Alliance Specialist (increases power and weapon damage)
Sabotage (loyalty)
   --Rank 1: Renders an armed enemy unable to fire for 8 seconds (not affected by defenses)
   --Rank 2: Renders an armed enemy unable to fire for 10 seconds and causes minor damage.
   --Rank 3: Renders an armed enemy unable to fire for 12 seconds, causes minor damage, and slightly impairs opponent accuracy.
   --Rank 4: Evolves into either Improved Sabotage (enemy cannot fire for 16 seconds) or Area Sabotage (hit multiple enemies at once).
  ----------DRAWBACK: This power is useless against enemies that use special powers or melee attacks.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 11 février 2011 - 12:52 .

[CroGamer002]

Kaidan get's Biotic Tech Armor.

Ashley get's red thing that you can fire in ME1 with shotgun if you have specialization and some Krogans in ME2 Carnage.

Modifié par Mesina2, 10 février 2011 - 11:41 .

[Sparrow44]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Damping would be nice. However, IIRC, Kaidan was unable to use it in ME1. Meh.

An exception could be made, I guess.

They could always combine Damping with Sabotage into one power, cover all bases I suppose.

For Kaidan Pull, Warp, perhaps a passive similar to Miranda's(affect squad shields and power usage) and as a bonus power 'Dampo-tage'.

For Ash perhaps an ammo power, Carnage and the above posters' ideas for Overkill (increased weapon damage, fire rate etc. for short time) not sure about passive.

[Celtic Latino]

Ashley:

Concussive Shot- makes sense for her to have this power since she's a soldier

Incendiary Ammo- because squaddies need at least one ammo power

Upgrades- (Alliance Supersoldier- increased weapon damage or Alliance Leader- increased health)

Special/class Ability: Carnage- Would work like a more explosive version of Concussive Shot. Can be upgraded to Area Carnage (wider radius) or Heavy Carnage (higher damage)



Kaidan:

Overload- His primary tech power

Warp- His primary biotic power

Upgrades- (Alliance Biotic- improves biotic powers or Alliance Tech- improves tech powers)

Special/class Ability- Neural Shock or Barrier (since I don't think Jacob or Mordin will return as squadmates)

[Homebound]

Ashley: Pistol/assault rifle
Concussive Shot
Cryo Ammo
Alliance Soldier: Extra weapon damage and extra skill potency
--Alliance Commando: Extra weapon damage, with minimal skill potency
--Alliance Shock Trooper: Extra skill potency, with minimal weapon damage
LOYALTY: First Aid: Gives health boost/makes regen kick in a lot faster(buff)
--Adrenaline shot: Lets allies regen up to 3x their health even when taking damage.lasts 30sec or until used up.
--Medkit: uber health bonus with less regen-time/lasts 3mins


Kaidan: Pistol/submachinegun
Cryo Blast
Sabotage: overheat enemy weapons for longer or causes adjacent enemies to catch on fire
Alliance Sentinel: Gives cooldown bonus and increases shield
--Alliance Bastion: gives highest cooldown bonus and shield bonus
--Alliance Nemesis: gives weapon damage bonus and skill damage bonus
Loyalty: Lift: increase area of effect, increase damage enemy takes, and increases duration per lvl
concentrated lift--Longer duration
mass lift--greater area of effect

Modifié par Just_mike, 11 février 2011 - 12:39 .

[TheBestClass]

The problem with bringing back Overkill for Ashley is that Adrenaline Rush basically does the same thing, only better and it slows down time.

Carnage would work but it's always seemed a little goofy. Your shotgun fires rockets?

Sabotage was just awesome and it really should be Kaidan's loyalty power. I think it should function like Kasumi's Flashbang Grenade though. Give it the same biotic/tech canceling effects plus the weapon overheating. Although, in ME2, don't enemies just reload when their weapon becomes overheated? That could be a problem.

[Northern Sun]

Sabotage got rolled into overload, starting at rank 3.



I'd personally give Kaidan tech armor, since he is a sentinel.

[trobbins777]

I nominate to give Ashley Williams a Revenant machine gun. All in favor?

Modifié par trobbins777, 11 février 2011 - 05:00 .

[Siansonea]

Ashley Loyalty Power: Poetic Justice—Enemy takes damage from Ashley quoting Tennyson.

Kaidan Loyalty Power: Hair Bump Stun—Enemy is immobilized contemplating Kaidan's hair bump.

[jbblue05]

Ashley- Assault Rifle Shotgun (Boomstick)

Concussive Shot
Frag Grenade
Alliance Marine
->Assault Marine ->Alliance Commando
Hammerhead Rounds- Knocks enemies off their feet
->Squad ammo  ->Sledgehammer Rounds

Carnage is a Krogan power and I think Wrex would introduce this bonus power better
Overkill is just an underpowered version of AR and if other classes are allowed this bonus power it would take away from the Soldier class.

[NICKjnp]

Siansonea II wrote...

Ashley Loyalty Power: Poetic Justice—Enemy takes damage from Ashley quoting Tennyson.

Kaidan Loyalty Power: Hair Bump Stun—Enemy is immobilized contemplating Kaidan's hair bump.

Yeah but only if Shep can choose those as a loyalty power.  I want to have a hairbump on my femshep or have my manshep quoting poetry back at Harbinger when he is talking trash. 

In all honesty I don't think we need to get anymore bonus powers from them right now.  I think they should just get three reguiar powers...with one being protection based.  I think that Kaidain would have throw, overload and tech armor.  His passive would probably be in line with the cooldown option like Kasumi.  I think Ashley would likely get concussive shot, cryo ammo and fortification.  Her passive would be similar to Jacob's.

[naledgeborn]

A lot like Admirals with a few tweaks
_____________________________

Ashley (Assault Rifle, Shotgun)
Cryo Ammo
Fortification
Alliance Marine (passive)
   --Alliance Specialist (increases squad weapon damage, self weapon damage)
   --Alliance Veteran (increases squad damage reduction, self health)
 Overkill/Carnage (loyalty)

Kaidan (SMG, Heavy Pistol)
Shockwave
Neural Shock
Alliance Officer (passive)
   --Alliance Medic (increases squad health regeneration, self power duration)
   --Alliance Operative (increases squad power damage, self health and weapon damage )
Sabotage (loyalty)

[lazuli]

We already have Damping and Sabotage in ME2.  They've been condensed or modified, but their functions remain more or less intact.

Ashley: Shotgun and Sniper Rifle
-Concussive Shot
-Cryo Ammo (requires rank 2 Concussive Shot)
-Alliance Soldier (standard damage and health increase)
-Rally (recharges ally skills, resetting their cooldown)

Kaidan: SMG and Pistol
-Throw
-Warp (requires rank 2 Throw)
-Alliance Sentinel (cooldown reduction and power damage increase)
-Burst (see quote below)

lazuli wrote...



I'd like a new power along the lines of what Morinth uses for defense against Samara at the end of Samara's loyalty mission.  She radiates energy outward during her "What choice?!" line.  In terms of gameplay, I see this doing three things.

• The user would be invulnerable for the ~2 seconds of activation time.
• The user would regain some barrier (shields).
• Enemies near the user would take damage and be knocked back if defenseless, or stagger if still defended.

Modifié par lazuli, 11 février 2011 - 02:25 .

[Homebound]

^ AKA Tech Armor.

Modifié par Just_mike, 12 février 2011 - 08:33 .

[GodWood]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
MASSIVE F*CKING EDIT BECAUSE I HAD A BETTER IDEA.

Ashley -
Cryo Ammo
Disruptor Ammo
Alliance Marine (passive)
   --Alliance Shock Trooper (increases weapon damage)
   --Alliance Commando (increases health)
Overkill (loyalty)
   --Rank 1: increases weapon damage and rate of fire by 20% for ten seconds
   --Rank 2: increases weapon damage and rate of fire by 30% for ten seconds.  Reload time reduced by 25%.
   --Rank 3: increases weapon damage, rate of fire, and accuracy by 40% for ten seconds.  Reload time reduced by 50%.
  --Rank 4: Evolves into either Sustained Overkill or Maximum Overkill
      ---Sustained Overkill: Overkill's effects last for 15 seconds.
      ---Maximum Overkill: Damage, rate of fire, and accuracy increased by 65%.
  ----------DRAWBACK: Since it does not increase clip size, using this power too much will cause you to run out of ammo.

Kaidan-
Shockwave (u mad?)
Cryo Blast
Alliance Officer (passive)
   --Alliance Tactitian (increases health and decreases power cooldown)
   --Alliance Specialist (increases power and weapon damage)
Sabotage (loyalty)
   --Rank 1: Renders an armed enemy unable to fire for 8 seconds (not affected by defenses)
   --Rank 2: Renders an armed enemy unable to fire for 10 seconds and causes minor damage.
   --Rank 3: Renders an armed enemy unable to fire for 12 seconds, causes minor damage, and slightly impairs opponent accuracy.
   --Rank 4: Evolves into either Improved Sabotage (enemy cannot fire for 16 seconds) or Area Sabotage (hit multiple enemies at once).
  ----------DRAWBACK: This power is useless against enemies that use special powers or melee attacks.

Perfect, except Kaidan should have pull or warp instead of shockwave.