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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

It's also possible that the OP got one of the Gamestop demos that leaked out before the whole thing got shut down.


Nothing was leaked. The only file available when the page was up was a dummy .zip.

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I thought friend was on the left and rival was on the right? And I thought that Bethany and Carver both can't be in your party, and that one of them will die? Oh, and another question:

What type of Hawke did you play as? 

Modifié par Uhh.. Jonah, 11 février 2011 - 03:13 .


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Ok, if you really played the demo, what color are the Ostriches that attack Lothering at the beginning?



Your options are



Magenta



Mauve



Turquoise and...



Mystic Paste Red.



Your correct answer will prove whether or not you are troo, or untroo.




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For all we know, Lastridge may have been legitimately trying to be nice and helpful. I didn't sense any jerkery or rudeness at all from him.

The responses from everyone else, however... There are ways to word yourself. Saying things like 'You just want attention' instead of 'Most of us are already familiar with that information, thank you however.' goes a long way. Just saying.

Modifié par HolyJellyfish, 11 février 2011 - 03:13 .


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i dont want to always sound ungrateful, but every new thing u list we already know.

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I still have not seen anything new, even in your most recent post.
Though if this is genuine then thank you for trying to be helpful.

Modifié par BTCentral, 11 février 2011 - 03:15 .


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I saw Reaver in a video, so unless that's an Unlock, I call shenanigans





JJ

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lastridge wrote...

I know for a fact that the videos and previews DO NOT cover everything I have told you...


The only thing you've said that's new information is 'attributes go up by three.' Everything else is old information.

Moreover, you obviously have no idea what is general knowledge or not, as you don't know Bethany's name or that the older woman is the PC and Bethany's mother.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 11 février 2011 - 03:15 .


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JJDrakken wrote...

I saw Reaver in a video, so unless that's an Unlock, I call shenanigans


JJ

Reaver is a specialization unless they are done differently to Origins, I would assume they are an unlock.

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lastridge wrote...

Very well, here we go:


SPOLIER ALERT - SPOILER ALERT - SPOILER ALERT

Just went back on and took a few notes for you. I'm only mentioning certain things, because I refuse to mention anything that'll ruin the surprise for you all, so here goes:


1) Firstly, there are six Warrior sub-classes called "abilities" in the game (I chose warrior class, and had 6 ability options, but my NPC sidekicks only had 5 abilities, not sure if that's because your character gets 6, or just that warriors get 6). Each of these abilities have a skill tree attached to them. Three of the warrior class abilities are: "Waepon & Shield", "Two-Handed" & "Vanguard". The other three begin with "D", "W" and "B".

2) The Mage class had 5 abilities. Two of these abilities are: "Elemental" and "Spirit". The other three begin with "A", "E" and "C".

3) I am sorry but I don't know anything about the Rogue class yet.

4) Your "resistances" (like fire, cold, electric, nature, fortitude etc) now have their own screen, so you can easily view where your defenses are weak.

5) The first three people you add to your party are named:  "Bethany", "Carver" & "Aveline". Who they are, what they do, and their contributions to the game I will not reveal.

6) How NPC's see you are marked clearly on a bar marked "Rival" on the left, and "Friend" on the right.

7) Your "Inventory" and your "Character Info" are now on separate screens and are no longer merged. (ie, pressing RT in your inventory screen only scrolls through your equipment tabs. Character info is on a different page.)

8) Enemies are less inclined to just appear in front of you. So, if you charge at someone with your melee weapon, your Mage may be in danger from a surprise flank.

9) My final spoiler is this:  You will encounter a familiar face in the early part of the game, and it is not who you'd expect!!! Image IPB   
 


This is all I'm saying. Make of it what you will - but feel free to collaborate and get back to me when your copies arrive.


You mention the RT trigger, this is an obvious xbox demo. Again, if you would be so kind as to answer: Where did you obtain this demo?

Modifié par KBomb, 11 février 2011 - 03:21 .


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Yeah, we already know all of this.

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Are you planning on telling us how you obtained the game?

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Maria Caliban wrote...

lastridge wrote...

I know for a fact that the videos and previews DO NOT cover everything I have told you...


The only thing you've said that's new information is 'attributes go up by three.' Everything else is old information.

Moreover, you obviously have no idea what is general knowledge or not, as you don't know Bethany's name or that the older woman is the PC and Bethany's mother.


Or, if he is lying, he does, but is trying to throw us off the scent.

JJDrakken wrote...

I saw Reaver in a video, so unless that's an Unlock, I call shenanigans

JJ


It works like how mages worked:

Mages each had schools of spells that you could mix and match. Unlike with warriors or rogues, you didn't have to stick to one.

Battlemaster, Defender, Vanguard, Two-Handed, Warmonger, and Weapon & Shield are all the base "schools" of the warrior class.

You are then allowed to unlock specializations. Reaver, Templar, and Berserker are the specializations.

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It doesn't seem like you follow the news and previews. If you did, you wouldn't be saying this stuff. I'm sure there is more info in the demo that you played that you can tell us that we would actually want to know. This is why i don't think you actually played it because you won't tell us information that we don't know.

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Indeed, I'm not trying to call you a liar OP, but you're really not giving us anything new. You keep saying you don't want to spoil people, but I doubt they'd be in this thread asking you questions if they didn't want to be spoilered. Or at the very least, they would not continue to read after you say "spoilers". So...I really don't believe you based off the very little evidence you've provided because we've known about most of this for months.

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errant_knight wrote...

lastridge wrote...

5) Combat has changed a little. Instead of pressing A once to enter attack mode, you press A for each standard strike, then a different button for each special ability (like before). I don’t know if that’s a good or bad thing yet. It feels cool at first, though I wonder if it'll take away too much from the turn-based RPG element down the track? Image IPB

That's all I'll say for now. Despite the fact you can't choose your race (silly, silly, silly...) I think you're all in for a treat!

I'm really glad you posted, thanks! For one thing, (3) is pretty much the opposite from what I'm seeing in trailers, and therefore encouraging, and (5) is new to me. Gotta say, I think that's a bad thing. I hate the click-click-click playstyle of that kind of attack. For one thing, it makes my hand hurt in a marathon play session. And it just seems like pointless busy work. I'd rather be worrying about the tactics and moving from character to character.


1. That's only on XBox, not PC
2. It's optional. You can also auto-attack on the XBox.

lastridge wrote...

9) My final spoiler is this:  You will encounter a familiar face in the early part of the game, and it is not who you'd expect!!! Image IPB


I certainly don't expect to see Flemeth!!!

Wonder who it is?

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 11 février 2011 - 03:28 .


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lastridge wrote...
9) My final spoiler is this:  You will encounter a familiar face in the early part of the game, and it is not who you'd expect!!! Image IPB  

Oh it couldn't possibly be Flemeth...

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octoberfire wrote...

lastridge wrote...
9) My final spoiler is this:  You will encounter a familiar face in the early part of the game, and it is not who you'd expect!!! Image IPB  

Oh it couldn't possibly be Flemeth...


noooooooo, he said someone you wouldnt expect. Since we've all been hearing its flemeth for months now, it cant possibly be flemeth.

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Nothing even in the latest post was a surprise, unfortunately. I hope you PMed Chris on where you got it, and if it's not real, the thread can be locked, as the attention fishing is just mean. If it is real, I hope you'll share some information that isn't known: even straight out listing something like all the skills in a specialization line would be mechanical information we don't have and would be very unlikely to spoil the game for anyone.



(The information above wasn't spoilers at all. All has been debated about in this forum for quite some time now.)

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I too got an early copy of Dragon age 2, and it turns out Hawke is adopted!

:o

Still, this is kind of a sad thread, this thread made me sad. :crying:

Disclaimer: I made that up.

Modifié par Falls Edge, 11 février 2011 - 03:35 .


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yeah, a lot of this information ( gameplay wise) can be found in the Giantbomb video w/ Mike Laidlaw where he goes through the combat, the menus, and the conversation wheel. And the prologue demo has been around for awhile.....but anyway, yeah, couldn't possibly be Flemeth we meet up w/ early on eh? lol

Modifié par BeardedNinja, 11 février 2011 - 03:38 .


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lastridge wrote...

Well, after starting a new game I could choose a male or female warrior, mage or rogue. All six were pre-desinged on a black screen, lined up in a row. when you choose one, they'd step forward, swing their weapon, and you'd clik "accept". I started the game running away from darkspawn - killing as I went - and a giant horned demon came out. I was on some kind of mountain top cliff-edge. I was with some chick who looked like the dark-haired babe from Mass Effect 2, and someone's older mother (mine or hers), and we bumped into another group of four who were trying to escape darkspawn. (Sorry if it's vague but I was also played the DA1 expansions all last night too, and I'm a bit muddled).

After you play the tutorial part you lose the temporary skills you have, and get to start your char from scratch. You customise detailed facial features as expected, and for the "pre-story" (from origins) you can do four things: 1, select the the default story (essentially a human saved Fereldin), or two alternate pre-stories (an elf saved fereldin/a dwarf saved fereldin), or you can load your previous character's decisions and outcomes.

Skill trees are on the right hand side of the screen. As  a warrior, I chose Beserker, but there were five other skill trees I could choose from. They operate from left to right, and (I may be wrong) but it seemed like I wasn't restricted to the one class type (like I could mix and match).

Oh and stats (STR, DEX etc) still go up in 3's when you go up a level. I can tell you more but I'd have to turnit on again and take notes.



OK, this tells me you're making it up, beserker is a specialization and you can't choose it until you're level 7, not to mention that if you have access to specializations already then that would make it nine different trees and not 6, every other bit of info can be easily gathered (actually, you get quite a lot of stuff wrong) with the exception of the stat thing, which I haven't heard before.  Sorry for being distrustful but I find it hard to believe you have an actual demo, much less for the XBox 360 version.

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MJF JD wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

lastridge wrote...
9) My final spoiler is this:  You will encounter a familiar face in the early part of the game, and it is not who you'd expect!!! Image IPB  

Oh it couldn't possibly be Flemeth...


noooooooo, he said someone you wouldnt expect. Since we've all been hearing its flemeth for months now, it cant possibly be flemeth.

Ooh! Ooh! I know! It's Enchantment! :wizard:

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lastridge wrote...

1) Firstly, there are six Warrior sub-classes called "abilities" in the game (I chose warrior class, and had 6 ability options, but my NPC sidekicks only had 5 abilities, not sure if that's because your character gets 6, or just that warriors get 6). Each of these abilities have a skill tree attached to them. Three of the warrior class abilities are: "Waepon & Shield", "Two-Handed" & "Vanguard". The other three begin with "D", "W" and "B".


Those couldn't possibly be Defender, Warmonger, and Battlemaster, could they?

2) The Mage class had 5 abilities. Two of these abilities are: "Elemental" and "Spirit". The other three begin with "A", "E" and "C".


Surely not Entropy, Creation, and Arcane!

3) I am sorry but I don't know anything about the Rogue class yet.


Convenient, because neither do we. Do we? I might have missed that class.

4) Your "resistances" (like fire, cold, electric, nature, fortitude etc) now have their own screen, so you can easily view where your defenses are weak.


Why, how could you have learned that?

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5) The first three people you add to your party are named:  "Bethany", "Carver" & "Aveline". Who they are, what they do, and their contributions to the game I will not reveal.


Bethany and Carver are your siblings. They are twins. Your mother is named Leandra. Your father was an apostate mage who is dead, and trained your sister (and possibly you) as mages. Your mother is of the Amell clan (related to the Mage Origin Warden), who are nobility in Kirkwall, which is why you're going there.

One of them dies, depending on your class. Carver dies is you are not a mage. Aveline is a templar's wife. This templar dies at the end of the tutorial from the taint. His name was Wesley. Aveline is a weapon and shield spec, Carver is a two-hander and Bethany is a mage.

6) How NPC's see you are marked clearly on a bar marked "Rival" on the left, and "Friend" on the right.


My god, man, it's like you're psychic!

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7) Your "Inventory" and your "Character Info" are now on separate screens and are no longer merged. (ie, pressing RT in your inventory screen only scrolls through your equipment tabs. Character info is on a different page.)

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How can I contain all of this new information? Why didn't I notice the LT RT triggers on the screen before?

8) Enemies are less inclined to just appear in front of you. So, if you charge at someone with your melee weapon, your Mage may be in danger from a surprise flank.


You watched the gameplay videos, too? And read the interviews?

9) My final spoiler is this:  You will encounter a familiar face in the early part of the game, and it is not who you'd expect!!! Image IPB  


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That wouldn't be Oghren, now would it?

Oh, wait. It's Flemeth.

Seriously. I literally have every piece of information you offered. You don't explain how you managed to get the XBox 360 demo of all demos--at least the PC demo is believable--and refuse to give us "spoilers".

Modifié par Saibh, 11 février 2011 - 03:53 .


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hmmm.....OP, you seem genuine..........but I'm still a bit skeptical.



Are you playing the demo on PC or 360?



Cuz you mentioned on the class select screen, you said that you "click" accept. That sounds like PC. But, later, you mention Press A to attack or RT and those are 360 buttons...............