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[Alodar]

I hope this is not the case.

I associate voices with characters. I can't re-use the same sound sets for different characters -- to me it would no different than using the same face again.

That's why I will only play as Lady Hawke in the demo. I want to associate male Hawke's voice with my character.

If that's the way the game starts it will reduce my enjoyment of DA2.


Alodar

[blothulfur]

So everybody from Ferelden has black hair, brown eyes, a tan and a blood stain on their hooter.

Shennanigans I say.

[Alodar]

DSerpa wrote...

Alodar wrote...

I can't watch the show now to give you the exact time but, if memory serves, there was a video preview on Server Down , a german video show and it showed the character creator and then it showed a custom Lady Hawke in the exaggerated portion of the game.

If my mind isn't playing tricks on me, I think that should be confirmation that in the actual game you will get to create your Hawke before you start gameplay.


Alodar

I just finished watching that video. It's a standard preview/interview for the first fifteen minutes, and then they make Fernando Melo play with dog poop.

Do. Not. Understand.

It's in about the first 3 minutes where a man is sitting in front of a DA2 demo being interviewed in German. It is before the Fernando Melo section.

It's at about 2:25 of the video when the moustached guy is playing with the character creator.

Alodar  

[Tleining]

@ Mystranna

okay, let's assume for a moment, that you are roleplaying frodo from Lord of the rings. Including all the hardships, all the fears, everything. And now imagine an old man, 10-15 years after Saurons defeat telling the story. Do you think he will mention every mistake you/Frodo made? Or will it be more of a "the 4 companions travelled far, until they reached the elves, where humans, elves and dwarves were willing to give their lives for the glorious Frodo..."

It's a legend, no wait, not even that. If what Varric is telling would be average knowledge, Cass would never be able to call him out on it. It's an exaggeration. The glorious tale of a great Champion, who never fell, was never weak, and had no faults. In other words, a nice fairy tail.

And after that, you create your Hawke, you create the story that Varric is telling.



See it as an introduction, a way for you to understand how the combat system works. The roleplaying starts after that.

[Herr Uhl]

blothulfur wrote...

So everybody from Ferelden has black hair, brown eyes, a tan and a blood stain on their hooter.
Shennanigans I say.

Default Hawke is tanned? S/He is as white as Conan O'Brien.

[Ryzaki]

If the old man travelled with Frodo I'd expect him to get the looks right. Otherwise forget unreliable I'll just think him an idiot or lying about knowing Frodo in the first place take your pick.  

Modifié par Ryzaki, 11 février 2011 - 05:53 .

[Herr Uhl]

Alodar wrote...

I can't watch the show now to give you the exact time but, if memory serves, there was a video preview on Server Down , a german video show and it showed the character creator and then it showed a custom Lady Hawke in the exaggerated portion of the game.

If my mind isn't playing tricks on me, I think that should be confirmation that in the actual game you will get to create your Hawke before you start gameplay.


Alodar

The video lacks the better armor and abilities for rogue-Hawke. It is the non-exaggerated part.

[duckphone07]

Tleining wrote...
 The roleplaying starts after that.

I would rather have the roleplaying start as soon as I started a new game when I am playing a roleplaying game. 

[Alodar]

Ryzaki wrote...

If the old man travelled with Frodo I'd expect him to get the looks right. Otherwise forget unreliable I'll just think him an idiot or lying about knowing Frodo in the first place take your pick.  

Exactly.

What would be the point of giving you the ability to change the colour of Hawke's skin, and all of his family, if you're the game starts you off as white.

I hope this is not the case.

Thanks for the quotation Herr Uhl!

Alodar

[Alodar]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Alodar wrote...

I can't watch the show now to give you the exact time but, if memory serves, there was a video preview on Server Down , a german video show and it showed the character creator and then it showed a custom Lady Hawke in the exaggerated portion of the game.

If my mind isn't playing tricks on me, I think that should be confirmation that in the actual game you will get to create your Hawke before you start gameplay.


Alodar

The video lacks the better armor and abilities for rogue-Hawke. It is the non-exaggerated part.

Damn.



Alodar

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Tleining wrote...
See it as an introduction, a way for you to understand how the combat system works. The roleplaying starts after that.

I understand that it's a "training stage" but that does not forgive the slap in the face to my roleplaying.

Your analogy might work if the person telling Frodo's story described him as a 7 foot tall elf, but that's not what's going on.  Varric is just forcing the story to be white Hawke for no reason at all, and I doubt it's because he's just "trolling" Cassandra with exaggerations.

That said, the entire framed narrative is bad for roleplaying for exactly that reason.  For all we know every single detail Varric tells could be a lie, and BioWare now has a free pass to say any plot inconsistencies or errors can be blamed on "Varric telling it wrong".

The roleplaying starts as soon as we control Hawke, and apparently Hawke is the default Hawke.  It's pointless and silly.

Modifié par Mystranna Kelteel, 11 février 2011 - 05:58 .

[Wittand25]

scootermcgaffin wrote...

I would assume that means you make your character, including face gen and class selection, but don't get any points to spend until after the exaggerated section.

The man creating a custom face in the gamestar server down show video, who is creating a custom face for FHawke as he talks says that he already did the first part and already could do some fighting. So the early exaggerated part where it is just Hawke and opposite class sibling will only feature standard Hawke. You select class and sex before but can only adjust your face after the exaggerated part.

[Russalka]

If that is the way they wish to tell their story, let them.

[blothulfur]

@Herr Uhl I live in yorkshire where there's this legend of a thing called sun that dwells beyond the clouds, but we have never seen it and thus are as pale as ghosts, except for the strange illuminous orange women in the clubs I work at.

Seriously though this is immersion breaking and silly, surely if varrics making Hawke legendary he would cast him as looking dwarven and a berserker or something due to his personal bias.

Modifié par blothulfur, 11 février 2011 - 06:04 .

[HopHazzard]

blothulfur wrote...

I live in yorkshire where there's this legend of a thing called sun that dwells beyond the clouds, but we have never seen it and thus are as pale as ghosts, except for the strange illuminous orange women in the clubs I work at.
Seriously though this is immersion breaking and silly, surely if varrics making Hawke legendary he would cast him as looking dwarven and a berserker or something due to his personal bias.

Varric isn't telling the story the way he wants it told though. He's telling Cassandra the legend of Hawke that everyone knows. He's telling her the story that people recount in taverns and tell their children when they put them to bed. And in a culture without cameras and documentary filmmakers details get distorted. Everyone knows Hawke is from Ferelden and most Fereldens are white, so Hawke is white. He has an epic beard and permanent blood streak on his face and awesome armor because that's badass and the Champion is a badass. That's one of the reasons Cassandra calls him on it. She's not looking for the story she could hear in any bar in the Free Marches. She's looking for the truth.


I actually think it's kind of a cool way to show the difference between the Legend of Hawke and what really happened.

[Russalka]

I wish the humongous boobs stayed in that fantasy.

[TheRevanchist]

Tleining wrote...

@ Mystranna
okay, let's assume for a moment, that you are roleplaying frodo from Lord of the rings. Including all the hardships, all the fears, everything. And now imagine an old man, 10-15 years after Saurons defeat telling the story. Do you think he will mention every mistake you/Frodo made? Or will it be more of a "the 4 companions travelled far, until they reached the elves, where humans, elves and dwarves were willing to give their lives for the glorious Frodo..."
It's a legend, no wait, not even that. If what Varric is telling would be average knowledge, Cass would never be able to call him out on it. It's an exaggeration. The glorious tale of a great Champion, who never fell, was never weak, and had no faults. In other words, a nice fairy tail.
And after that, you create your Hawke, you create the story that Varric is telling.

See it as an introduction, a way for you to understand how the combat system works. The roleplaying starts after that.

This...seriously I swear people on these boards will complain about the most trivial things...so what...you have to be the default falt for an agonizeing 5 minutes or whatever...might as well cancel your pre-orders

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Russalka wrote...

If that is the way they wish to tell their story, let them.

"Shrek was not an ogre but a handsome prince.

The End."

Wait..

Fairy Godmother forget to tell about the love potion. Rewind back.

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 11 février 2011 - 06:14 .

[Ryzaki]

Yes of course because people were actually saying that.

[zooooooro]

Revan312 wrote...

It's my impression that both are yes and I as well, if it is really the case, am confused as to why exactly that's the case? Doesn't make a whole lotta sense, especially if your Hawke is a darker ethnic custom make. Having a Black/Latino/Asian/other Hawke with that mandatory default opening will be jarring and ridiculous..

So here's hoping they're just rumors because otherwise.. wow, so contrived..

Cassandra: "What? EVERYONE knows Hawke is from Rivain, why would you say she's white?"

Varric "Well... I prefer whites?"

*Cassandra stabs Varric*

LMAO

[blothulfur]

So why black hair and brown eyes, why not red hair and grey eyes or does the legend of hawke not include any facts about the blond blue eyed champion that i'm going to play who's clean shaven and bald or is my character totally disregarded in favour of this legendary individual who looks nothing like my man and is my hawke totally invisible and never seen by anybody in kirkwall.

It devalues our input into the game, and once again shennanigans.

[Taleroth]

AND HE HAD A BIG BUSHY MANLY BEARD

That's not what I heard.

Who's telling this story, me or you?  Did I mention he was 8 feet tall and shot lightning out of his arse?

Modifié par Taleroth, 11 février 2011 - 06:23 .