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Bailyn242 wrote...

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Yes, I'd like to see Kai Leng in ME3, and put some hot metal in his head. I think even my human-supremacist Renegade Shep would be disgusted by Mr. Leng.

Really?

Any given Renegade, and more than a few Paragons, have engaged in far more destructive, more brutal, more callous, and/or more harmful acts than anything Kai Leng is shown or implied to have done.


My Renegades wouldn't have bothered searching the kitchen for a knife so I could got back and cut her throat when she was already unconcious and no threat to my mission. Sorry, that was the definition of vile. My renegades are all about getting the job done regardless of the cost but that wasn't part of the job. That was killing for his personal jollies and his need to validate his own hatred. He is exactly the people that Miranda means when she comments of "too many join us for..." during one of the conversations. I think he would probably kill Kelli for being too loving.


Than your not a Renegade, your a paragon pretending to be a Renegade.
Kai Leng didn't have a lethal weapon and the kill was quick and painless.

Kai Leng wouldn't kill Kelly.she's human.Image IPB and works for Cerberus

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I hope he's in ME3.  I am going to let Aria have some fun with him [smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]


jbblue05 wrote...

A lot of people don't like Kai Leng because he's not a Paragon and has a renegade alignment


Mordin is also a renegade...people love Mordin

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jbblue05 wrote...
Than your not a Renegade, your a paragon pretending to be a Renegade.
Kai Leng didn't have a lethal weapon and the kill was quick and painless.

Kai Leng wouldn't kill Kelly.she's human.Image IPB and works for Cerberus


Renegades remove obstacles in the most expedient manner. He just sounds like a sociopath.

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he would be an awsome addition to ME, I own all the books and will be reading the 4th in sept. the day its released. i would also love to see Kahlee Sanders, and Gillian Greyson in ME3. the books truly expand on the ME universe and i think every fan of the games story will love the books.

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Barquiel wrote...

I hope he's in ME3.  I am going to let Aria have some fun with him ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png


jbblue05 wrote...

A lot of people don't like Kai Leng because he's not a Paragon and has a renegade alignment


Mordin is also a renegade...people love Mordin




Exactlly how is Aria and Shepard going to find out?Image IPB

Mordin is more of a Renagon than a "true Renegade" and plus Mordin is a cool alienImage IPB

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I would like to kill him, Or let Aria find out........

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BobSmith101 wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...
Than your not a Renegade, your a paragon pretending to be a Renegade.
Kai Leng didn't have a lethal weapon and the kill was quick and painless.

Kai Leng wouldn't kill Kelly.she's human.Image IPB and works for Cerberus


Renegades remove obstacles in the most expedient manner. He just sounds like a sociopath.


How's he a sociopath?.

Kai Leng is a tactician.  Just because you wouldn't do some things he's done doesn't make him wrong or too extreme.

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jbblue05 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...


Mordin is also a renegade...people love Mordin




Exactlly how is Aria and Shepard going to find out?Image IPB

Mordin is more of a Renagon than a "true Renegade" and plus Mordin is a cool alienImage IPB


I agree, Mordin is a "protect at all cost" kind of person, renegades then to blow up everything that stand in their way, kind of like Vasir

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Who is and Why exactly would we want Kai Leng in ME3 and what makes him standout from say...London Sniper Guy?

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Slayer299 wrote...

Who is and Why exactly would we want Kai Leng in ME3 and what makes him standout from say...London Sniper Guy?


He's a former N7 marine.
Total badass in ME Retribution
TIM's top Assasin
Doesn't like aliens (adds squad complexity)

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He's from one of the books or the comics I take it then, because I've never heard of him previously.



Thanks for answering.

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Bailyn242 wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Stormy-B wrote...

Yes, I'd like to see Kai Leng in ME3, and put some hot metal in his head. I think even my human-supremacist Renegade Shep would be disgusted by Mr. Leng.

Really?

Any given Renegade, and more than a few Paragons, have engaged in far more destructive, more brutal, more callous, and/or more harmful acts than anything Kai Leng is shown or implied to have done.


My Renegades wouldn't have bothered searching the kitchen for a knife so I could got back and cut her throat when she was already unconcious and no threat to my mission. Sorry, that was the definition of vile. My renegades are all about getting the job done regardless of the cost but that wasn't part of the job. That was killing for his personal jollies and his need to validate his own hatred. He is exactly the people that Miranda means when she comments of "too many join us for..." during one of the conversations. I think he would probably kill Kelli for being too loving.

Killing her with the knife was to coverup their involvement. He didn't kill her painfully, nor did he kill her for being an alien, nor did he kill for revenge for the loss of his squad mate.

He killed her because she was a witness, and a witness at that point compromised the mission.

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Kai Leng was so badly overpowered that it made him annoying. Seriously, he was the only character in both ME books that annoyed the hell out of me. It's not that I don't like him because he's a "renegade". It's just that he was obviously suposed to be a badass and ended up being close to immortal god of destruction.

That part where he escaped the Ascension Project swinging like a god damn monkey... what was that? I mean... imagine that.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 11 février 2011 - 05:48 .


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jbblue05 wrote...

How's he a sociopath?.

Kai Leng is a tactician.  Just because you wouldn't do some things he's done doesn't make him wrong or too extreme.


Because he appears to enjoy them.

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How was he overpowered? He was better than Anderson, appropriate for a special-forces named character compared to all the non-special forces, and wasn't ever close to as good as the Reaper Avatar.




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Possibly. I do admit that I sort of want to kill him, but of course I won't if I don't have to.

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To whoever asked... he's an ex-N7 Marine turned Cerberus Assassin. He should definitely have a cameo role at the very least. Being Paragon Shep's "Gary Oak" in ME3 would be the icing on the cake.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

How's he a sociopath?.

Kai Leng is a tactician.  Just because you wouldn't do some things he's done doesn't make him wrong or too extreme.


Because he appears to enjoy them.



That's from your paragon perspective.

He didn't smoke a cigarette and savor the kill when he killed Aria's daughter.
He has a dislike for aliens but he's always business first.
Kai Leng keeps his cool when surrounded by Aria's goons. He wasn't like "MUST KILL ALIENS, MY BLOOD DEMANDS THIS"Image IPB

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jbblue05 wrote...

How's he a sociopath?.

Kai Leng is a tactician.  Just because you wouldn't do some things he's done doesn't make him wrong or too extreme.


Those aren't mutually exclusive though.

http://www.google.co...lient=firefox-a

He's an absolute clean cut case of a sociopath.

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jbblue05 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

How's he a sociopath?.

Kai Leng is a tactician.  Just because you wouldn't do some things he's done doesn't make him wrong or too extreme.


Because he appears to enjoy them.



That's from your paragon perspective.

He didn't smoke a cigarette and savor the kill when he killed Aria's daughter.
He has a dislike for aliens but he's always business first.
Kai Leng keeps his cool when surrounded by Aria's goons. He wasn't like "MUST KILL ALIENS, MY BLOOD DEMANDS THIS"Image IPB


As somebody else stated. Aria's daughter was unconscious via tranquiliser. Where he could have just walked out with Grayson and left her there, he found a knife and cut her throat.

He had no motivation, and it takes away precious time needed to escape, that's hardly professional or businees first.

He keeps his cool because had he done otherwise, he'd have been dead. He works for an Anti-Alien organisation, they would have their eyes on him.

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 11 février 2011 - 06:09 .


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jbblue05 wrote...

That's from your paragon perspective.

He didn't smoke a cigarette and savor the kill when he killed Aria's daughter.
He has a dislike for aliens but he's always business first.
Kai Leng keeps his cool when surrounded by Aria's goons. He wasn't like "MUST KILL ALIENS, MY BLOOD DEMANDS THIS"Image IPB


Nope it's from the definition of what a sociopath is.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 11 février 2011 - 06:09 .


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AwesomeName wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

How's he a sociopath?.

Kai Leng is a tactician.  Just because you wouldn't do some things he's done doesn't make him wrong or too extreme.


Those aren't mutually exclusive though.

http://www.google.co...lient=firefox-a

He's an absolute clean cut case of a sociopath.


Kai Leng doesn't have an antisocial disorder.
So Kai Leng is immoral because its not what a Paragon would do?
Kai Leng killed Aria's daughter because he's an assasin if he left her alive he would be a terrible assasin
Kai Leng never takes pleasure in killing aliens its just business

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jbblue05 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

How's he a sociopath?.

Kai Leng is a tactician.  Just because you wouldn't do some things he's done doesn't make him wrong or too extreme.


Because he appears to enjoy them.



That's from your paragon perspective.

He didn't smoke a cigarette and savor the kill when he killed Aria's daughter.
He has a dislike for aliens but he's always business first.
Kai Leng keeps his cool when surrounded by Aria's goons. He wasn't like "MUST KILL ALIENS, MY BLOOD DEMANDS THIS"Image IPB


Of course not, that would make him a Krogan:P
Even extremists can keep quiet in a crowd, that doesn't change what they think of people, you almost want to make him look like Thane

Modifié par Kaltrec, 11 février 2011 - 06:11 .


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Machines Are Us wrote...

As somebody else stated. Aria's daughter was unconscious via tranquiliser. Where he could have just walked out with Grayson and left her there, he found a knife and cut her throat.

He had no motivation, and it takes away precious time needed to escape, that's hardly professional or businees first.

He keeps his cool because had he done otherwise, he'd have been dead. He works for an Anti-Alien organisation, they would have their eyes on him.


Aria's daughter is a witness, Assasins don't leave witnesses behind.Image IPB

It only took him a couple seconds to find the knife.  His motivation was not leave a witness behind and plus he could've wanted revenge on the Asari for killing his squadmate (possibly a friend)

You seem to forget that Kai Leng's team was busy doing other things before they escape.  The medic was trying to patch up a team member and other members were trying to cover up evidence and recover the red sand..

Aria actually works with this anti-alien organization.Image IPB

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Kaltrec wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

How's he a sociopath?.

Kai Leng is a tactician.  Just because you wouldn't do some things he's done doesn't make him wrong or too extreme.


Because he appears to enjoy them.



That's from your paragon perspective.

He didn't smoke a cigarette and savor the kill when he killed Aria's daughter.
He has a dislike for aliens but he's always business first.
Kai Leng keeps his cool when surrounded by Aria's goons. He wasn't like "MUST KILL ALIENS, MY BLOOD DEMANDS THIS"Image IPB


Of course not, that would make him a Krogan:P
Even extremists can keep quiet in a crowd, that doesn't change what they think of people, you almost want to make him look like Thane


Kai Leng doesn't like aliens it still does't make him an extremist.
Balak and the Batarian Hegemony are extremists.
Kai Leng doesn't go out of his way to kill aliens for the lulz, he only kills aliens if it affects his mission, if Grayson's lover was human he would still kill her