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[Eclipse_9990]

BTCentral wrote...

JJDrakken wrote...

Yet costs us more money...50hr play time doesn't even cover my dollar an hour rule for games.  Since game is 60+ bucks & if I wanted Sebastian Vael, another 7+ bucks.

If it's a 50 hour game, then it's cost me less than £0.50/hour.
I'd say that's pretty good going. Especially considering I am bound to do multiple playthroughs.

I'm just grateful this guy said that he got around 50 hours out of this.
I was always excited about this game but, I was so worried that the game would end too quickly for me. Its a good thing I do every side quest on my first playthrough. 

[Purple People Eater]

DAO has an 86 on metacritic for xbox360, a 87 for PS3, and a 91 for PC. None of those scores are anything to scoff at. DAO is still one of the best reviewed RPGs of the last 5 years no matter how you slice it, and 95% of games would be happy with the kind of reviews its gotten.

[spernus]

Duncan Anderson wrote...

Bioware games always get good scores because they are always good games. It's not some kind of preferential treatment because the press like them.

Sure,but a Bioware good game can get the score of an otherwise great game from another developer.Jade empire:xbox version (89%),Demon's soul (89%).No way should these 2 games be on par imo,especially considering the numerous great ideas implemented in demon's soul (and stellar action rpg gameplay compared to Jade).Not to mention the crazy amount of love for Mass effect 2...

[broncos1123]

I am very happy to hear about the upwards of 50 hours... I will feel better if other reviewers start to say similar things... but my expectations were much lower than 50 hours.

[John Epler]

Just a reminder to everyone to stay civil. Some of you have ventured a little too close to the personal attacks territory, and if you keep it up, I'll be handing out bans.



Feel free to disagree or agree as you see fit, just stay polite and civil towards each other.

[The Elder King]

spernus wrote...

Duncan Anderson wrote...

Bioware games always get good scores because they are always good games. It's not some kind of preferential treatment because the press like them.

Sure,but a Bioware good game can get the score of an otherwise great game from another developer.Jade empire:xbox version (89%),Demon's soul (89%).No way should these 2 games be on par imo,especially considering the numerous great ideas implemented in demon's soul (and stellar action rpg gameplay compared to Jade).Not to mention the crazy amount of love for Mass effect 2...

To be fair, a lot of GOTY user's choice in the gaming sites was ME2. It was both critic e public acclaimed.

Modifié par hhh89, 11 février 2011 - 03:49 .

[upsettingshorts]

spernus wrote...

No way should these 2 games be on par imo,especially considering the numerous great ideas implemented in demon's soul (and stellar action rpg gameplay compared to Jade).Not to mention the crazy amount of love for Mass effect 2...

So just to make sure I'm following along:

Metacritic review score of Bioware game > Your opinion of Bioware game

Therefore the critics give Bioware good reviews because they like them. 

Why not, "my opinion of Bioware games differs from public consensus?"  I don't like the Starcraft games, but I don't take the next step of assuming that its positive reviews are the result of unreasonable bias.

[Dubya75]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

spernus wrote...

No way should these 2 games be on par imo,especially considering the numerous great ideas implemented in demon's soul (and stellar action rpg gameplay compared to Jade).Not to mention the crazy amount of love for Mass effect 2...

So just to make sure I'm following along:

Metacritic review score of Bioware game > Your opinion of Bioware game

Therefore the critics give Bioware good reviews because they like them. 

Why not, "my opinion of Bioware games differs from public consensus?"  I don't like the Starcraft games, but I don't take the next step of assuming that its positive reviews are the result of unreasonable bias.

I agree.

[Duncan Anderson]

The crazy love for ME2 to due to it being crazy awsome, a vast improvment on the original, but I get that I'm in the minority on that one. As for JE and DS, they came out two years apart, I'd expect a 89 game in 2010 to be better than an 89 of 2008.

[Ploppy]

kingjezza wrote...
Romantic options unconstrained, you meet a party member chances are you can "bone" them. his words not mine.

Yes! Yes! VARRIIICCC!

[ThomasAndrew]

My only concern about this game after all the press was the length. I am extremely satisfied with 50 hours.



Anyone who discredits this review needs to realise how silly their conspiracy theories sound.

[Dubya75]

broncos1123 wrote...

I am very happy to hear about the upwards of 50 hours... I will feel better if other reviewers start to say similar things... but my expectations were much lower than 50 hours.

I think it is becoming very clear that it is very hard to put a time on these type of games.
For example, my first paythrough of Origins took me a whopping 90 hours. 5 playthroughs later and I completed (and I mean thoroughly) in 55 hours.
I don't mind so much if the game ends up being 30-50 hours max, as long as the replayability is good.

[Herr Uhl]

ThomasAndrew wrote...

My only concern about this game after all the press was the length. I am extremely satisfied with 50 hours.

Anyone who discredits this review needs to realise how silly their conspiracy theories sound.

Just to temper expectations, most reviews I read listed DAO as upwards to 100 hours.

Edit: And my mean was around 70. Edit2: And others have much lower, downwards to around 30.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 11 février 2011 - 03:55 .

[ThomasAndrew]

Herr Uhl wrote...

ThomasAndrew wrote...

My only concern about this game after all the press was the length. I am extremely satisfied with 50 hours.

Anyone who discredits this review needs to realise how silly their conspiracy theories sound.

Just to temper expectations, most reviews I read listed DAO as upwards to 100 hours.

And pc gamer Uk listed DAO as 50 hours.

It took me 57 hours playing on first playthrough on nightmare PC.

Modifié par ThomasAndrew, 11 février 2011 - 03:55 .

[GuldiienDAO]

A rule of thumb that I've always followed for any advertised game length is to divide the amount in half. That always seemed to give me a better estimation of game time.

[broncos1123]

Ploppy wrote...

kingjezza wrote...
Romantic options unconstrained, you meet a party member chances are you can "bone" them. his words not mine.

Yes! Yes! VARRIIICCC!

Not to burst your bubble or anything, but Darrah (unless I am mistaken I believe it was him) already came out and said that Aveline is not a romance option... which would be contrary to the whole "you meet a party member chances are you can 'bone' them."

[dreamextractor]

kingjezza wrote...

- Romantic options unconstrained, you meet a party member chances are you can "bone" them. his words not mine. Your siblings being the obvious exceptions.

OK, nobody has anything to say about this? 

Nobody???

Aveline isn't an LI, so it's not quite true

[upsettingshorts]

I don't know what the 60-100+ hour people were doing, to be honest. Either it's an extremely subjective thing, or everyone is lying about how long they spent playing the game. I'm going with the former.

Edit:   For me, DAO was around 40-50 hours, and ME1-2 were around 30-40.  But I don't expect those numbers represent anyone elses experiences, only my own.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 11 février 2011 - 03:57 .

[Herr Uhl]

ThomasAndrew wrote...

And pc gamer Uk listed DAO as 50 hours.

It took me 57 hours playing on first playthrough on nightmare PC.

Oh, that is a low time listing for the game.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 11 février 2011 - 03:57 .

[kingjezza]

As far as I can remember they had Origins down as 80 hours in PCG UK.



http://www.computera...origins-review/



This states his first play through as 80 hours, different reviewers though so I'm not sure you can read much into that.

[Taleroth]

My most recent playthrough of DAO took 45. That's a very optimized run. I can definitely see 60 hours of playtime for people who have to retry fights or explore nooks and crannies.

[spernus]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

spernus wrote...

No way should these 2 games be on par imo,especially considering the numerous great ideas implemented in demon's soul (and stellar action rpg gameplay compared to Jade).Not to mention the crazy amount of love for Mass effect 2...

So just to make sure I'm following along:

Metacritic review score of Bioware game > Your opinion of Bioware game

Therefore the critics give Bioware good reviews because they like them. 

Why not, "my opinion of Bioware games differs from public consensus?"  I don't like the Starcraft games, but I don't take the next step of assuming that its positive reviews are the result of unreasonable bias.

It's quite simple,the gaming press does love Bioware and it's easy as that. Bioware has an easier time getting great score than most rpg developers.My personnal opinion is irrelevant,even if I must admit I am a huge fan of ME2 myself.

Just like some movie director also get insane love from critics (as good as he is,David Fincher get crazy amount of love and I am still disturbed that one critic went as far as comparing the Social network to Citizen Kane).The Social network is a solid movie indeed,but worthy of as much praise as the american press gave it? The curious case of Benjamin Button going straight into the Criterion collection?

[Yrkoon]

ThomasAndrew wrote...

Anyone who discredits this review needs to realise how silly their conspiracy theories sound.

Either that,  or they need to  keep a mental note on which magazine gave which game a good review, then trust/or not trust that magazine based on their own experiences of the game.

For example, I think it was Gamespot that gave Awakening a glowing, and very high score.  But after *I*  finally got my hands on Awakening... and played it....and saw for myself what a   bugged,  rushed, overpriced  turd it really was from the ground up, the first thing on MY mind was:  Wow...   so much for  Gamespot  reviews!

Modifié par Yrkoon, 11 février 2011 - 04:00 .

[Purple People Eater]

My first run of DAO was 68 hours. I dont know why it took that long consider other playthroughs were significantly less than that. I guess I just diddnt want the game to end.

[broncos1123]

dreamextractor wrote...

kingjezza wrote...

- Romantic options unconstrained, you meet a party member chances are you can "bone" them. his words not mine. Your siblings being the obvious exceptions.

OK, nobody has anything to say about this? 

Nobody???

Aveline isn't an LI, so it's not quite true

The only thing I can think of, is maybe Aveline isn't what they consider a "love interest", meaning we can't have a relationship like we did in DAO, but maybe at some point we can "bone" her, like a one night stand thing?  Maybe that is what the reviewer meant?