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[Rykn]

I don't know.. I get the feeling this guy has never played dragon age like... At all. Not once. Can't compare if you don't know S%#t about your competition. Plus I have played both and can safely say that Bioware games don't make me feel like I'm playing a MMO when I want a single player epic. (Not to say I hate MMO's) That said it's all a personal opinion thing isn't it? They are both good in their own right. (Bioware will always win story wise in my mind though.)

[Rogue Unit]

slimgrin wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

I said it yesterday when this was discussed, I don't really care about the substance of the comments, but it just seems to be in poor taste to promote yourself at the expense of others. Specifically when you make dismissive remarks and don't substantiate your claims, you just sort of hum on to the next comment.

I just think it's rich coming from a developer who Bioware helped put on the map in the first place with the aurora engine.

Ha! Bioware didn't help put them on the map. CD red transformed that engine so much it's nearly unreconizable. And he is stating his opinion. TW2 does indeed look better. Why does this throw people into fits? So it looks better. Lets move on.

I totally agree that TW2 looks better, but lets not go around stating opinions as fact, hm?:innocent:

[jontepwn]

Wow, those devs are full of themselves. The Witcher's world might be rich with backstory and events (never played it), but it's certainly not unique in its style or graphics. >.>

[Pritos]

Sir Jools wrote...

Pritos wrote...

The Witcher 2 can be the most perfect game ever, but the fact is it won't get near as DA2's sale numbers... In the end, Bioware wins.

So, what you are saying is, "sales = quality"?

Awwwwwwright.

Unrelatedly, why are people even arguing here? Many people will buy both games, many people will buy none. For a thread where the word "mature" has been used and abused to such an extent, I've seen major signs of immaturity around here, proving that quite a few people own the game illegally (it's 18+), or that they just need to grow up.

Nope, never said sales = quality, I was just figthing off The Witcher fanboys by stating something that CD Projeckt have no hope of wining against Bioware.

[Fergo87]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Well the Witcher is PC exclusive. Thats always a plus in my book. Also CD projekt's post release support is far greater than that of Bioware.

I don't know...ME2 was fairly well supported. But hey, I'm all for games that get people back on the PC. I always try and play games on the PC unless there's a clear reason to play on the consoles. But then again, I always hate to see people miss out because their personal preference wasn't supported. I'm kind of torn on exclusivity sometimes. I just wish piracy didn't exist like it does now and people were able to appreciate the PC more for what it is. But that's getting way too far off topic.

[AtreiyaN7]

GuldiienDAO wrote...

ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...

Now I agree that morally ambiguous choices are good. The problem is, what's the point? If all three lead to equally horrible events, why should I care?

Ok, on the opposite side of the same coin if every choice has a clear good/bad then whats the fun in picking? You would know exactly the result from your choice. I think with the moral ambiguity there is a sense of not knowing how your choice is going to impact something else. There are similar choices in DA2 from what we've been hearing.

I think there needs to be a balance of both. While I like making tough, morally ambiguous decisions & all that, I think those kinds of situations need to be used judiciously. They should really matter and not be an every-day ho-hum thing. Personally, I like having a certain amount of clearly black & white decisions, largely because I want to know that the beliefs/morality of my character do matter and can result in making the world a better (or worse) place. I suppose that what  I want is for the morally ambiguous situations to surprise me unexpectedly and be really wrenching if they arise.

[Count Viceroy]

slimgrin wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

I just think it's rich coming from a developer who Bioware helped put on the map in the first place with the aurora engine.

Ha! Bioware didn't help put them on the map. CD red transformed that engine so much it's nearly unreconizable. And he is stating a fact. TW2 does indeed look better. Why does this throw people into fits? So it looks better. Lets move on.

err, I never argued that it doesn't looked better. It does.

But they still had a complete engine to base everything on, that's a huge difference compared to building one from ground up. It's like modifying a car, regardless of much work you put into it, it'll still be easier than building the entire car.

[efrgfhnm_]

I would say that the thing which seperates them most for me is the review scores, which in the end are really one of the two most important things to a game. And while the witcher got good sure, i think metacritic was 85 bioware games consistently get into the top 5 of the year score wise. I saw somewhere that since 1997, 9 bioware games have won the AIAS best role playing game. Not saying the witcher isn't good, but it needs to do a hell of a lot more than improve graphics over the original to be in the same league

[SirGladiator]

I played TW and wasn't really impressed. Judging by the two pictures at the beginning of the thread, it isn't clear at all to me which has the better graphics because only one of them was a close-up, but DA2's graphics definitely seemed brighter so its likely that theirs are better. Of course the main character is much better in DA2 because you can play as a male or female, I can't imagine why they dropped the ball on that one, its certainly not hard to give players a choice, you pretty much just have to be smart enough to do so. There's no doubt that DA2 will sell much better, and it'll most likely be a much better game, but if TW2 is a genuinely good game it'll sell well enough to be quite successful also, as the first one was, so everybody wins, most importantly the fans will win. That's all that matters.

[jack_f]

Mentioning Witcher = instalock. How did this reach 10 pages?

[Khayness]

Count Viceroy wrote...

But they still had a complete engine to base everything on, that's a huge difference compared to building one from ground up. It's like modifying a car, regardless of much work you put into it, it'll still be easier than building the entire car.

TW2 uses CDProject's own engine, not the Aurora.

[David Gaider]

I think the Witcher 2 looks fantastic. Hopefully it'll be a great game as well.

Since this isn't the Witcher forum, however, this isn't really the place to discuss it-- or argue about it, as the case may be.