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[junte86]

At first Archdemon was definetly more dangerous  as we can see from the first blight.

But now pretty much everything is known about Archdemon, from what I have learned from reading the codexes from DA:O Archdemons are far more stronger when it comes to raw strength, but Thedas knows how to deal with them,
they have grey warden and MOST of the time many countries join forces to take down the blight.

Pride demon seems to be far weaker compared to the archdemon, but their number seems to be more than archdemons so just taking down 7 pride demons wont end their terror.
They also seems to be far more smarter compared to Archdemon. Also there seems to be some exceptionally strong pride demon as I do not believe that all demons strength are equal. As long as there are mages or Fade pride demons will wreck havoc in Thedas.

In my opinion unless the last 6th and 7th Archdemons are really really strong, pride demons seems to be more dangerous, Although in terms of strength Archdemons are stronger and have their darkspawn army, its one time big event in a century... but Pride Demons can appear in any place and in any time... Each Pride demons are strong enough to fight with an exceptionally strong party...

This is some of my thoughts about Archdemon and Pride Demon and I am interested to know what other people think about Pride Demon and Archdemon~

[KawaiiKatie]

Archdemon possessed by a Pride Demon.

[namedforthemoon]

I'd say an Archdemon is more powerful than a pride demon. An Archdemon can control hordes of Darkspawn and set them on villages and cities. Put together, they're very destructive.

[Sheylan]

Dumat(the first Archdemon) rampaged for 200 years before they finnaly took him down.



Even this archdemon(whos quick demise was mostly pure dumb luck) caused far more destruction than a mere pride demon.

[Lurklen]

I would have to say an Arch demon because of the leval of destruction it's capable of. Every other blight has caused massive destruction to large portions of Thedas over an extended time, only the fifth was a short relatively bloodless affair. compare that to a pride demon and it just doesn't reach the same levels of damage, though a pride demon inhabiting the body of someone in a position of power without going full transformy abomination mode could cause alot od destructin before people figured out something was up.

[junte86]

Sheylan wrote...

Dumat(the first Archdemon) rampaged for 200 years before they finnaly took him down.

Even this archdemon(whos quick demise was mostly pure dumb luck) caused far more destruction than a mere pride demon.

I think the reason Dumat ramaged the world for 200 years was because of the Archdemons special ability.. and since now we have a grey warden it seems that other archdemons will never do what Dumat have done again.

and I am talking about the Pride Demon as a whole rather than comparing just one pride demon to an archdemon

[Felfenix]

Neither are all that powerful considering a party of four can take down both. You just a Grey Warden in the party for an Archdemon.

[thehistorysage]

This is a good question actually. Alot of philosophy could go into this. An Archdemon is powerful, but only once in a great while. Pride Demons are deadly every day. If a Pride Demon were to possess someone of great importance, strength and clout, I think the outcome could be just as bad, if not worse, than the blight.

[Ellestor]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Archdemon possessed by a Pride Demon.

Archdemon possessed by a Desire Demon possessed by a Rage Demon possessed by Andraste possessed by the Maker possessed by a Pride Demon. I'm sure it can be done.

[MrIDunnoYou]

I'd say, until the last two Archdemons come about, and wreak their havok, they will remain more dangerous. I don't believe the actions of all the Pride Demons who have escaped the Fade, put together, compares to the devastation of any one of the first four Blights. So, until there are no remaining Archdemons, they will always be a bigger threat.

[X2-Elijah]

Out of curiosity, what exactly is the greatest damage that a Pride demon has inflicted so far?

[KawaiiKatie]

Ellestor wrote...

Archdemon possessed by a Desire Demon possessed by a Rage Demon possessed by Andraste possessed by the Maker possessed by a Pride Demon. I'm sure it can be done.

And they're all inside Anders.

[elfdwarf]

pride demon can be kill by anyone

archidemon can be kill only greywarden

archidemon has tainted magic

pride demon has blood magic

archidemon can fly and has broodmother breed a whole army over century in deep roads

[Marbazoid]

The codex mentions that a 'greater' pride demon could threaten all of thedas, so maybe the only pride demons encountered so far have been 'lesser' ones.

but i'm still convinced that the old gods themselves are greater fade spirits imprisoned in the bodies of dragons, either through voluntary possession or something else.

sorry for my lack of capitals, my shift key is borked.

Modifié par Marbazoid, 12 février 2011 - 08:50 .

[junte86]

X2-Elijah wrote...

Out of curiosity, what exactly is the greatest damage that a Pride demon has inflicted so far?

We dont really get to know since the pride demon codex did not talked about their history, But I remember reading that if one pride demon comes out of Fade Thedas will be in danger sort of Codex, and Uldred caused quite a bit of ruckus and you know  how many revanants were in Ferelden:P

Anyway the Pride Demon codex or Demon codex kind of had a tone about Pride Demon being really really dangerous for Thedas

[Lurklen]

thehistorysage wrote...

This is a good question actually. Alot of philosophy could go into this. An Archdemon is powerful, but only once in a great while. Pride Demons are deadly every day. If a Pride Demon were to possess someone of great importance, strength and clout, I think the outcome could be just as bad, if not worse, than the blight.

 I think though when you measure the destruction caused by an Arch demon you have to consider the effects they've had on the world. There are still places where nothing grows and groups of darkspawn appear relatively often leftover from the first blight. There are parts of Ferelden where it will take years befor anyone can live there again, and that's not even considering the wholesale slaughter that happens in even one Blight, in which whole armies are wiped out and peoples decimated. If we use the mage tower incident as an example that demon killed maybe a hundred people at the most, and the only thing that is permanantly damaged is some of the structure of the tower and the political stability/population of the local Circle.

 As to each being able to be taken down by a four man team that I would think is just a convention of it being a game where you can only use four people at a time.

[junte86]

Lurklen wrote...

thehistorysage wrote...

This is a good question actually. Alot of philosophy could go into this. An Archdemon is powerful, but only once in a great while. Pride Demons are deadly every day. If a Pride Demon were to possess someone of great importance, strength and clout, I think the outcome could be just as bad, if not worse, than the blight.

 I think though when you measure the destruction caused by an Arch demon you have to consider the effects they've had on the world. There are still places where nothing grows and groups of darkspawn appear relatively often leftover from the first blight. There are parts of Ferelden where it will take years befor anyone can live there again, and that's not even considering the wholesale slaughter that happens in even one Blight, in which whole armies are wiped out and peoples decimated. If we use the mage tower incident as an example that demon killed maybe a hundred people at the most, and the only thing that is permanantly damaged is some of the structure of the tower and the political stability/population of the local Circle.

 As to each being able to be taken down by a four man team that I would think is just a convention of it being a game where you can only use four people at a time.

I agree wity you, and that is why my q's is which ones are more dangerous "now"
pretty much people in Thedas knows the drill now. how to take down a blight, Like in Dragon age Origin, IF Logain did not do what he did ... The blight could have been over that day, and Dragon age could have been a game about Main Charac trying to unite the entire Thedas in Dynasty Warrior style, lol

anyway I think  in terms of overall damage Archdemon wins without a doubt, but now that Blight seems to be a fairly well known occurance.. I believe that Pride Demons might be more dangerous for now on.
the part about Greater Pride Demon made me thought about this issue.

[namedforthemoon]

A team of four to take down an archdemon? If that was the case, then why use the treaties to gain elves, mages/templars, dwarves and men to fight against it?



You don't need all that to take out a pride demon.

[DrunkenMonkey]

i would go for pokemon as the biggest threat to the DA universe

[Lotion Soronarr]

I have a question...what will the Grey Wardens do after the 7th Archedmon is killed?

[junte86]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I have a question...what will the Grey Wardens do after the 7th Archedmon is killed?

They have the issue of Calling and dying... so I guess they will try to hunt down every darkspawns in the deep road.
or well... they could have found a cure but for now... their fate is to die fighting darkspawn.

[Sprocker117]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I have a question...what will the Grey Wardens do after the 7th Archedmon is killed?

The Grey Wardens shall be keepers of history, telling tales and singing songs of a more tumultous time, that others may rejoice in knowing that that time is past.

Modifié par Sprocker117, 12 février 2011 - 12:04 .

[contextual_entity]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Ellestor wrote...

Archdemon possessed by a Desire Demon possessed by a Rage Demon possessed by Andraste possessed by the Maker possessed by a Pride Demon. I'm sure it can be done.

And they're all inside Anders.

Rule 34.

[Nerevar-as]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I have a question...what will the Grey Wardens do after the 7th Archedmon is killed?

Try and hunt as many Broodmothers as possible before they run out of AD blood and no more GW can be created.  Even large DS raids can be trouble, especially if the 2 remaining dwarf cities fall.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 12 février 2011 - 12:32 .

[DrunkenMonkey]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I have a question...what will the Grey Wardens do after the 7th Archedmon is killed?

Kill the pokemon of course