A Pride Demon darspawn...o.o
Pride Demon and Archdemon which one is more dangerous for Thedas now?
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#27
Posté 12 février 2011 - 03:48
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I agree a pride deamon would be dangerous in my opinion
#28
Posté 12 février 2011 - 03:50
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The large pride-demons apparently can't cross the veil. I'd say that those would be more dangerous in themselves, but they have less dangerous goals.
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Posté 12 février 2011 - 04:37
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Archdemon. Without question.
I mean, you could say that there are more Pride demons thus they are more of a danger, but that'd kinda be like saying there are more kobolds thus they are more dangerous than an ogre.
But it comes down to this: even as much as is known about archdemons, every time one pops up it devastates an entire nation at the very minimum. Most of the time, despite everything which is known of them, despite having an entire continent standing against them, they still manage to devour nations of people, stick around for decades, and generally bring the known world to its knees. The only things stopping this from happening with the fifth blight was the quick gathering of armies before the blight had gained steam and a lucky shot from Riordan.
No pride demon we know of has ever posed as great a threat to the world or its people as an archdemon. And I feel safe in saying that because we don't know about it I doubt it's happened considering Blights are very historic, well-known, devastating things whenever they happen.
I mean, you could say that there are more Pride demons thus they are more of a danger, but that'd kinda be like saying there are more kobolds thus they are more dangerous than an ogre.
But it comes down to this: even as much as is known about archdemons, every time one pops up it devastates an entire nation at the very minimum. Most of the time, despite everything which is known of them, despite having an entire continent standing against them, they still manage to devour nations of people, stick around for decades, and generally bring the known world to its knees. The only things stopping this from happening with the fifth blight was the quick gathering of armies before the blight had gained steam and a lucky shot from Riordan.
No pride demon we know of has ever posed as great a threat to the world or its people as an archdemon. And I feel safe in saying that because we don't know about it I doubt it's happened considering Blights are very historic, well-known, devastating things whenever they happen.
#30
Posté 12 février 2011 - 07:07
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Well Flemeth is a demon of some kind.. Probably a Pride demon since it is the most powerful demon class.. And Flemeth seems far more deadly then the Archdemon.
The problem with pride demons is that they can think and use manipulation.
So if one possessed a shapeshifter like say Morrigan.. It could study the archdemon and then learn to turn into one.. It would be an Archdemon but without the taint and be able to think clearly and strategize to a far greater degree.
I think it is a case of... Archdemons are generally more dangerous but Pride demons have the potential to be FAR more dangerous.
and yeah... Flemeth
The problem with pride demons is that they can think and use manipulation.
So if one possessed a shapeshifter like say Morrigan.. It could study the archdemon and then learn to turn into one.. It would be an Archdemon but without the taint and be able to think clearly and strategize to a far greater degree.
I think it is a case of... Archdemons are generally more dangerous but Pride demons have the potential to be FAR more dangerous.
and yeah... Flemeth
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Posté 12 février 2011 - 09:01
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XxDeonxX wrote...
Well Flemeth is a demon of some kind.. Probably a Pride demon since it is the most powerful demon class.. And Flemeth seems far more deadly then the Archdemon.
The problem with pride demons is that they can think and use manipulation.
So if one possessed a shapeshifter like say Morrigan.. It could study the archdemon and then learn to turn into one.. It would be an Archdemon but without the taint and be able to think clearly and strategize to a far greater degree.
I think it is a case of... Archdemons are generally more dangerous but Pride demons have the potential to be FAR more dangerous.
and yeah... Flemeth
I don't think there is any force in the world more "dangerous" than a blight. Flemeth admits that she would fall under one were it to happen.
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Posté 12 février 2011 - 09:53
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XxDeonxX wrote...
Well Flemeth is a demon of some kind.. Probably a Pride demon since it is the most powerful demon class.. And Flemeth seems far more deadly then the Archdemon.
The problem with pride demons is that they can think and use manipulation.
So if one possessed a shapeshifter like say Morrigan.. It could study the archdemon and then learn to turn into one.. It would be an Archdemon but without the taint and be able to think clearly and strategize to a far greater degree.
I think it is a case of... Archdemons are generally more dangerous but Pride demons have the potential to be FAR more dangerous.
and yeah... Flemeth
At risk of sounding overly dorky and giving out spoilers, there's a lot wrong with this.
First, Flemeth isn't a demon. It is stated in Witch Hunt she is not an abomination. Whatever she is is beyond our current understanding. Second, Archdemons as a form alone, while deadly, aren't really the most dangerous part about them. It's the armies they command and the ability to resurrect endlessly unless killed by a very specific type of person. Third, I wonder much at the ability someone might have to study an archdemon.
#33
Posté 12 février 2011 - 10:22
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An old grey warden like Avernus from wardens keep whose calling is so near that he is beginning to hear the archdemons call and know its mind would be a lovely creepy situation for a dlc, say a desperate quest to bring his research to Weisshaupt while the darkspawn and other stranger things pursue the player.
Then again the last two old gods are sleeping as far as we know so it's not an option unless the darkspawn can intrude on their gods dreams, bugger I keep bloody arguing myself out of things.
Then again the pride demon in awakening, was it baroness or countess possessed some serious eldritch might to actually pierce the veil first to drag the village into the fade and then bring it all back but even that pales next to a blights sheer destructive potential.
Then again the last two old gods are sleeping as far as we know so it's not an option unless the darkspawn can intrude on their gods dreams, bugger I keep bloody arguing myself out of things.
Then again the pride demon in awakening, was it baroness or countess possessed some serious eldritch might to actually pierce the veil first to drag the village into the fade and then bring it all back but even that pales next to a blights sheer destructive potential.
#34
Posté 14 février 2011 - 05:03
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Since Pride Demon can possess a corpse.. Pride demon possessing dead Archdemon's body might be stronger than Archdemon in terms of strength lol..
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Posté 05 juin 2012 - 04:06
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junte86 wrote...
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
I have a question...what will the Grey Wardens do after the 7th Archedmon is killed?
They have the issue of Calling and dying... so I guess they will try to hunt down every darkspawns in the deep road.
or well... they could have found a cure but for now... their fate is to die fighting darkspawn.
The grey wardens will probably die out or the taint will no longer effect them, since it is the call of the old gods which results in the calling. And on topic, we know of all the destruction of the archdemons but seriously how many disasters have been said to be caused by all the demon types, none. From this i would assume that the archdemon is a bigger threat, also while the archdemon is a being of destruction, pride demons merely feed on pride. While it is true that pride demons may be able to take over a kingdom, i dont think it is something in general that they would care to bother with. Also i think that even a really strong pride demon could be taken out by a very strong party of 4, while taking out the archdemon is kind of like a mechanical thing, all your armies are helping you kill the archdemon, it would just be to dificult to show.
Modifié par hitenchi, 05 juin 2012 - 04:15 .
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Posté 05 juin 2012 - 03:37
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Archdemons command Darkspawn to ravage the land during a blight. Even after a blight the land is still contaminated by the taint. Nothing can live in these blighted areas. Needless to say a plethora of Pride Demons fall to the Warden, and The Champion of Kirkwall. They're a filler enemy. Also I believe once the Greywardens eliminate the last two Archdemons they still have to contend with the awakened Darkspawn. I imagine there are similar Darkspawn to both the Architecht, and Coryphyeus lingering some where in the world of Thedas. Not to mention the countless multitude of Darkspawn below the surface. Which could purportedly be controlled by the likes of Coryphyeus, and other Darkspawn with influential abilities.
Modifié par Vincent Laww, 05 juin 2012 - 03:39 .
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Posté 05 juin 2012 - 03:43
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would be common undead high dragon ,archdemon power not from body but from souljunte86 wrote...
Since Pride Demon can possess a corpse.. Pride demon possessing dead Archdemon's body might be stronger than Archdemon in terms of strength lol..
#38
Posté 05 juin 2012 - 06:01
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A pride demon that could disguise itself as an abomination, get followers, secretly change followers into more demons while gaining more followers, and gradually gaining an army of demons without anyone noticing could be a fairly big threat.
#39
Posté 05 juin 2012 - 06:16
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The threat varies. The Blight is a massive threat to the entire world that must be stopped immediately, but when you slay the Archdemon, the darkspawn simply retreat to the Deep Roads and stop menacing the surface for a time.
The threat of demons never goes away, and I believe that had the crisis at Ferelden's Circle gone unchecked, the abomination horde could potentially have destroyed the entire countryside. But it's still a manageable threat.
The threat of demons never goes away, and I believe that had the crisis at Ferelden's Circle gone unchecked, the abomination horde could potentially have destroyed the entire countryside. But it's still a manageable threat.
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Posté 06 juin 2012 - 08:03
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if last two dwarven city falls , the darkspawn will be threat to surface again with or without archdemon.
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Posté 06 juin 2012 - 09:19
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That would explain a lot.KawaiiKatie wrote...
Ellestor wrote...
Archdemon possessed by a Desire Demon possessed by a Rage Demon possessed by Andraste possessed by the Maker possessed by a Pride Demon. I'm sure it can be done.
And they're all inside Anders.
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Posté 06 juin 2012 - 09:43
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LOL I think that's looking at it a bit too literallyFelfenix wrote...
Neither are all that powerful considering a party of four can take down both. You just a Grey Warden in the party for an Archdemon.
. But I will add that I thought of this too!Archdemons mean a Blight, which can be really devastating. As much as the destruction of some areas in Ferelden was very bad, it was a fraction of the damage that had been done during the previous four Blights. Ferelden was very lucky. All of Thedas was very lucky.
I really don't think a pride demon, or even just pride demons in general, can compare. They seek to manipulate humans for their own ends. I don't really think that ravaging whole countrysides by influencing some noble would be really helpful for it in the end since it would just be slaughtering its "food" source for no reason.
Anders is a turducken?robertthebard wrote...
That would explain a lot.KawaiiKatie wrote...
Ellestor wrote...
Archdemon possessed by a Desire Demon possessed by a Rage Demon possessed by Andraste possessed by the Maker possessed by a Pride Demon. I'm sure it can be done.
And they're all inside Anders.
Modifié par nightscrawl, 06 juin 2012 - 09:44 .
