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[Sharn01]

I have to say LadyHawke's VA is pretty good from the few lines we saw, not the best but no complaints from me.

[Sabariel]

Maybe it's the accent but I think "Lara Croft" whenever Lady Hawke speaks. Not that that's a bad thing.

[TaleSpun]

yoshibb wrote...

Sable Phoenix wrote...

Ritch Cafe wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

Why does FemShep's voice have to sound 100% feminine? That's what my voice sounds like and I still put on nice dresses and act like a woman. I loved that about FemShep. There was just enough feminine in her voice for her to be a woman. She didn't sound all mannerly and delicate, she sounded like a soldier. It's kind of annoying that people think that the voice isn't woman enough as I'm 100% female and have that same low voice. I thought it was a nice change of pace from all the pretty girl voices I usually get in video games.

And I didn't find that they didn't let us know that she was female. She may be a little more masculine than usual but that's what I expected from her. And I was glad that they didn't change the scenes to make it more feminine. I loved the scene on Virmire where she punched Saren in the face and then carried her injured friend to safety. Femshep was everything I've wanted from a female character in a video game. I don't think anything can outdo her in my mind. 

I don't mind Lady Hawke's voice though. I like it, in fact. But nothing can ever compare to FemShep's voice for me.

Well put. That's an excellent counterpoint. I apologize if I offended you. Apparently your voice is very pleasing to the ear!

Yeah, this. I hope it didn't sound like I didn't care for Hale's work as femShep; she's my favorite voice actress, period, and she made the character memorable.  Her work has established to me that Shepard is a woman, marketing be damned.  I think the whole "she sounds like a man!" thing comes from the writing, not the voice.  Men and women do speak differently, for the most part, so subconsciously, since the writing treats Shepard as male, people get a bit of a wierd vibe while Shepard is talking.  Even I have experienced that slight cognitive dissonance while hearing my femShep speak at a few points during the Mass Effect games.  It's a testament to Hale's stellar acting skills that she's still believable.

The Dragon Age writing team is head and shoulders better than Mass Effect's, though, at least since Karpashyn left, so maybe they will avoid this pitfall with LadyHawke and she really will sound like her own separate character, not just BeardyHawke without the beard.

... I'm not buying the game, so I don't know why I care, other than that the only studio that consistently treats its female characters well is BioWare (despite a few missteps here and there).

It's ok, guys I'm not offended at all. I kinda had to grow into the voice though cause when I was younger and answered the phone some people thought I was my brother 

It'll be interesting to go through a playthrough with a more feminine sounding protagonist from a Bioware game. I'm wondering if it will have the same effect on me as the FemShep voice did. I like to feel like I actually am the character rather than just on the outside looking in. 

I enjoy both perspectives myself. Playing my Warden in Origins or MaleShep, I can imagine it's me. I tried playing female characters in those games (and with ME2 I still might) with the adopted perspective of someone outside looking in. It just didn't work for me. I guess FemShep just wasn' fem enough for me. The Warden has no voice no matter which gender you choose, so that didn't work for me either. I guess it's just my taste, but it's funny, I don't mind playing a female character who isn't overtly feminine. I quite liked Lightning in Final Fantasy XIII for example, who fits into the "female soldier" archetype quite nicely with FemShep. I think my problem is, when BioWare does a game where the lead can be male or female, they don't make the two versions different enough for me. I'm sure part of that problem is not having unique dialogue for both genders. I don't think it would have to be completely unique per gender, but I don't think it would hurt to have at least a sizable percentage of dialogue (say, 20% maybe?) be gender specific. Men and women do a lot of things differently. I think one of those things is the way we react and resopond to people. I don't think it would be so bad for them to (or I want them to) play that up a bit more.

[redneck nosferatu]

Lady Hawke's voice is great; better than I expected it to be; it sounds better than Beard Hawke, from what we've heard thusfar. I was pleasantly surprised by her actually sounding feminine, as others have said.



I think it was well worth the wait to hear.

[Phex]

Ritch Cafe wrote...

I enjoy both perspectives myself. Playing my Warden in Origins or MaleShep, I can imagine it's me. I tried playing female characters in those games (and with ME2 I still might) with the adopted perspective of someone outside looking in. It just didn't work for me. I guess FemShep just wasn' fem enough for me. The Warden has no voice no matter which gender you choose, so that didn't work for me either. I guess it's just my taste, but it's funny, I don't mind playing a female character who isn't overtly feminine. I quite liked Lightning in Final Fantasy XIII for example, who fits into the "female soldier" archetype quite nicely with FemShep. I think my problem is, when BioWare does a game where the lead can be male or female, they don't make the two versions different enough for me. I'm sure part of that problem is not having unique dialogue for both genders. I don't think it would have to be completely unique per gender, but I don't think it would hurt to have at least a sizable percentage of dialogue (say, 20% maybe?) be gender specific. Men and women do a lot of things differently. I think one of those things is the way we react and resopond to people. I don't think it would be so bad for them to (or I want them to) play that up a bit more.

I on the other hand enjoyed the fact in Mass Effect that BioWare had created a character and simply gave it two genders. I'm tired of playing games where every major female character is a carbon copy of another. It's almost like the developers sit down and go "so, what do we know about this new character we're going to make? Well, she's a woman." And from there on the same stereotypes repeat themselves endlessly. I thought femShep was a breath of fresh air, an actual badass character who is Commander Shepard first, woman second... All the while looking and sounding believable. But that's just me I guess.

I'm really looking forward to playing as femHawke, I think she will be another excellent character. Her voice fits her just like Hale's fits Shepard's character.

[TaleSpun]

Sefferz wrote...

Ritch Cafe wrote...

I enjoy both perspectives myself. Playing my Warden in Origins or MaleShep, I can imagine it's me. I tried playing female characters in those games (and with ME2 I still might) with the adopted perspective of someone outside looking in. It just didn't work for me. I guess FemShep just wasn' fem enough for me. The Warden has no voice no matter which gender you choose, so that didn't work for me either. I guess it's just my taste, but it's funny, I don't mind playing a female character who isn't overtly feminine. I quite liked Lightning in Final Fantasy XIII for example, who fits into the "female soldier" archetype quite nicely with FemShep. I think my problem is, when BioWare does a game where the lead can be male or female, they don't make the two versions different enough for me. I'm sure part of that problem is not having unique dialogue for both genders. I don't think it would have to be completely unique per gender, but I don't think it would hurt to have at least a sizable percentage of dialogue (say, 20% maybe?) be gender specific. Men and women do a lot of things differently. I think one of those things is the way we react and resopond to people. I don't think it would be so bad for them to (or I want them to) play that up a bit more.

I on the other hand enjoyed the fact in Mass Effect that BioWare had created a character and simply gave it two genders. I'm tired of playing games where every major female character is a carbon copy of another. It's almost like the developers sit down and go "so, what do we know about this new character we're going to make? Well, she's a woman." And from there on the same stereotypes repeat themselves endlessly. I thought femShep was a breath of fresh air, an actual badass character who is Commander Shepard first, woman second... All the while looking and sounding believable. But that's just me I guess.

I'm really looking forward to playing as femHawke, I think she will be another excellent character. Her voice fits her just like Hale's fits Shepard's character.

You don't think a lot of the few female leads in games are unique amongst each other? There are pretty clear differences between, say Terra from Final Fantasy VI and Jade from Beyond Good & Evil. I think female lead characters in games are rare enough that they're almost always pretty unique.

Modifié par Ritch Cafe, 13 février 2011 - 01:17 .

[Darth Death]

Her voice is good, but it doesn't stand out or "shine".

[leeboi2]

PRAISE BE TO ALLAH!



Hawke should be from Yorkshire though I'll VO MaleHawke

[Nyx]

Sefferz wrote...

I on the other hand enjoyed the fact in Mass Effect that BioWare had created a character and simply gave it two genders. 

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I thought femShep was a breath of fresh air, an actual badass character who is Commander Shepard first, woman second... All the while looking and sounding believable. But that's just me I guess.

I agree with this. I actually thought the dialogue provided for both Shepards was fairly gender neutral. The writers rarely over-emphasized anyone's femininity or masculinity, save from those personal moments with his/her companions, or funny quips at the bar. If anything, Shepard's identity as a member of the human race comes more in to question and debate than their gender. {Which the NPCs will eventually concede that Shepard, despite being human, is still awesome and kick-ass.}

It was perfect (for me at least) in the sense that I could just enjoy Shepard as a galactic soldier and leader, regardless of their background. Sometimes I think developers try too hard to dinstinguish a female fighter as a "female", and it distracts me from the game -- suddenly, I feel like I'm role-playing a Disney princess (or a male-fantasy sex-bot) instead of an accomplished, respected fighter. IMO, two unfavorable extremes.

Aside from a few characters like Samus Aran or Faith Connors, I didn't think it was possible for female leads to escape the double D-cup, or girly-girl, stereotype until Shepard. Even in movies, you'll see a lot more diversity amongst women.

This is just one preference -- I'm sure there are those who will prefer otherwise.

Village Idiot wrote...

There is no single monolith for describing what it means to be female.  Women are diverse in speech, action, thought, and movement.

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Cazlee wrote...

Marian has a beautiful voice, a voice that is as soft and feminine as Wynne, Cauthrien or Anora's voice. Yet Marian doesn't sound quite as authoritative or in command as they do. Her facial expressions are off compared to her tone of voice too.

DamnThoseDisplayNames wrote...

There is baritone, and there is acting. Aerie was a delicate flower, she moaned and cried a lot, but when she shouted her battle cries, especially after bein "hardened", or standing agains a***s like Korgan, I did take  her seriously. For now, I feel more like kylecouch does.

That said, we haven't heared much of "renegade" answers from femHawk yet, so.. with a pinch of salt.

Definitely.

I think the renegade answers arrived toward the end, but there seems to be a lacking conviction and assertion in her voice. I hope that's only a teaser, and not a representation of the VA's capacity as a Valkyrie-type of woman should the player to choose her to be.

Modifié par Nyx.Aeterna, 13 février 2011 - 03:52 .

[Aggie Punbot]

Apollo Starflare wrote...
Cornish is actually based in Canada I think, she is even dating Mark Meer haha

Actually, she's married to Mark Meer.

This voice is...different. It'll probably take some getting used to but I'll give it a shot.

[Revan312]

Although I think it would be amazing to hear the voice change over time with the experience of being a hardened combatant, from a voice over point of view it would be a nightmare to try and gradually change your timbre and tone over the course of the sessions.. Maybe they could do it, but again, it would be a nightmare..



On topic, her VA is competent, although a bit high class sounding, but so is maleHawke. I thought they were from Lothering, and were fairly low class Fereldens, that seems to clash somewhat with my preconceptions on peasant accents in said region as most of the individuals in Ferelden as a whole sounded much more western English. Or have I misunderstood where Hawke comes from, concerning both location and class?

[Kail Ashton]

Quite lovely, both voice actors bring excellent quality to their roles so far

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

Male hawke is far superior IMO so far

[TaleSpun]

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Male hawke is far superior IMO so far

An opinion fit for a Krogan!!   (kidding)

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

Ritch Cafe wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Male hawke is far superior IMO so far

An opinion fit for a Krogan!!   (kidding)

MY AVATAR IS A LIZARD!

[Ninja Mage]

She sounds like Mary Poppins

[HolyJellyfish]

I'll form my opinion after I play as an aggressive hostile character.



All the lines that were used as an example were Sarcastic (And they were delightfully sarcastic) and nice / diplomatic. So while everyone is saying she sounded sweet and lacked a level of demand in her voice, perhaps that's because she was using the Nice lines? Just sayin'.

[Lucy Glitter]

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Gilsa wrote...

@Lucy - [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie] your post. Made me laugh just reading it. 

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[Revan312]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I'll form my opinion after I play as an aggressive hostile character.

All the lines that were used as an example were Sarcastic (And they were delightfully sarcastic) and nice / diplomatic. So while everyone is saying she sounded sweet and lacked a level of demand in her voice, perhaps that's because she was using the Nice lines? Just sayin'.

I doubt it will change much simply because it would make a variable dialogue choice playstyle very awkward if one moment she sounds like a princess and the next she sounds like a hardened veteren..

I don't mind her voice, but I won't lie that I was looking forward to a more gruff and grizzled sounding female PC.. I should have known better though as malehawke sounds very uppercrust as well..

[HolyJellyfish]

Revan312 wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I'll form my opinion after I play as an aggressive hostile character.

All the lines that were used as an example were Sarcastic (And they were delightfully sarcastic) and nice / diplomatic. So while everyone is saying she sounded sweet and lacked a level of demand in her voice, perhaps that's because she was using the Nice lines? Just sayin'.

I doubt it will change much simply because it would make a variable dialogue choice playstyle very awkward if one moment she sounds like a princess and the next she sounds like a hardened veteren..

I don't mind her voice, but I won't lie that I was looking forward to a more gruff and grizzled sounding female PC.. I should have known better though as malehawke sounds very uppercrust as well..

It could be the "Proper" English accents throwing us off as well. Its much more difficult to relate to a VO PC whose accent doesn't connect with ours in an RPG.

[starfire1188]

She sounds like Mika Simmons... but a TON better than Anora!

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Finally.



But was this tidbit released by *Bioware* or did something manage to fly loose under the radar? If the latter...well, I reserve my love for the radar guy in this case.

[TaleSpun]

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Ritch Cafe wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Male hawke is far superior IMO so far

An opinion fit for a Krogan!!   (kidding)

MY AVATAR IS A LIZARD!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

[Morroian]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Finally.

But was this tidbit released by *Bioware* or did something manage to fly loose under the radar? If the latter...well, I reserve my love for the radar guy in this case.

Mike Laidlaw played her in his live stream event. 

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Morroian wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Finally.

But was this tidbit released by *Bioware* or did something manage to fly loose under the radar? If the latter...well, I reserve my love for the radar guy in this case.

Mike Laidlaw played her in his live stream event. 

Thanks for the clarification.

I suppose that warrants giving Bioware a <3 or two...next time I just hope there doesn't have to be so much wailing and gnashing of teeth to get some female protag. action. A screenshot and voice clip shouldn't be so bloody hard to release. XD