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Matdeception

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To Gremnock



Truthfully, the male contingent have little to factual evidence on just who their love interests are. Aside from Isabella, nothings been confirmed. Merrill is heavily hinted at, given that Aveline has been outright stated to not being a love interest, but it's not confirmed.



The homosexual option for males is heavily leaning towards Fenris, given Anders never has shown interest in males at all, and given past examples of bi-sexuality there's certainly credence towards bi-sexual elves.



As for Varric, it's just outright unconfirmed in any way, shape or form. Several aspects leans towards no, but these are based on public opinion as opposed to hard facts. If they have, in fact, revealed such knowledge to the public I have yet to see/hear about it.



As things stand, here are what is assumed, or believed to be the female love interests via educated guesswork and careful thought on the matter.



Anders

Fenris

Isabella bi-love interest.



* Sebastian is a DLC character, and is thus removed from consideration. It's highly unlikely Bioware would invest such efforts and energies into a character that isn't in some way integral to the plot, and is essentially a character you never have to see/pick up/download his content.



And for males...



Isabella (Confirmed)

Merril (All but confirmed)

Fenris bi-love interest (No confirmation of any kind, just a heavy leaning towards given past experiences.)



Given that Aveline was knocked out, leaving straight males with only 2 logical choices, Isabella and Merril, Bioware likely has also kept the playing field the same with females, which means they'd have to exclude one of the males. The popular leaning is that Varric is axed out, for various considerations and the like.



Ultimately, it's all guess work. Aside from Isabella being a LI, and Aveline not being one, that's really all the information we have on LI's that are confirmed as fact. Unless something has come out since I last looked.


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MasterSamson88

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 The female version in games barely ever get any press.

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makenzieshepard wrote...

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

You know that females also have Isabela.


Lesbians and bisexuals aren't real women!

<_<


Is this sarcasm? :blink: 

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The RustMonster wrote...

Wait, where did Gaider state he wrote a romance? Any chance you could provide a link to the quote Dave? Not that I don't trust you, I'd just like to see where and when he stated this.


You'd have to dig through the Fenris thread, sorry. It was an interview where Gaider explained the difficulty of writing a romance in a ten year arc or something.

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Toirdehach wrote...

Is Bioware making dating sims or RPGs?


Dating sims. You didn't hear?

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Toirdehach wrote...

Is Bioware making dating sims or RPGs?


Considering all people seem to care about on these forums are the romances...

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Gremnock wrote...

I see what your saying JrayM16 but I would prefer to know ahead of time. I am really not into dwarfs, elves are ok, but I prefer a Human Male romance. I am more of a planner than a wait and see what happens type. I like to do a romance that in my opinion matches such as elf females to elf males/elf females to human males as well but playing as a human I prefer to romance a human. I would romance an elf male if he was taller than me so if my choices were only Varric and Fenris I would always choose Fenris but that means I would never be able to change it up and romance a different companion Which I do like to do. When I played Dragon Age Origins before I tried to romance anyone I looked it up and found out Alistair was a romance and chose him every time. To try something different I made an elf and romanced Zevran but didnt enjoy that story as much.


Well then I would recomend simply trying to romance Fenris and Anders.  I hear that a heart icon will come up over romantic dialogue so a ninjamance with Varric is unlikely.  You seem set on certain LIs so I don't see how knowing early will change anything.  Plan to romance Fenris and if that is available it'll happen. 

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Erani wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

You know that females also have Isabela.


Lesbians and bisexuals aren't real women!

<_<


Is this sarcasm? :blink: 


Almost certainly.  Genuine homophobia is fairly rare in these forums.

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Lady Hawke can get things going with Isabella?! :blink:


If it wasn't guaranteed from Isabela's history at the Pearl, Isabela will give the same flirtatious "I'll be at the tavern for sex" line to Lady Hawke as she does Male Hawke.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

You'd have to dig through the Fenris thread, sorry. It was an interview where Gaider explained the difficulty of writing a romance in a ten year arc or something.


I can also verify that he said that. I'm not going to dig up the quote, but he said it.

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Gill Kaiser wrote...

I'm fairly certain that Lady Hawkes get to choose between Fenris, Anders and Isabela, while male Hawkes get Merrill, Isabela and Anders.
We know Aveline isn't a full romance (she'll be like Samara in ME2).
The only contentious one in my mind is Varric. I think he has a chance of being a female romance, but I'm not sure how likely it is.


The thought of that lecherous dwarf doing something to the fair lady Hawke makes my stomach turn. =P

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Erani wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

You know that females also have Isabela.


Lesbians and bisexuals aren't real women!

<_<


Is this sarcasm? :blink: 


:mellow:

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The male romances haven't been announced, we just know you can't have a romance with one character. That doesn't mean you can have a romance with both of the other characters.


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Saibh wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Lady Hawke can get things going with Isabella?! :blink:

If it wasn't guaranteed from Isabela's history at the Pearl, Isabela will give the same flirtatious "I'll be at the tavern for sex" line to Lady Hawke as she does Male Hawke.

Indeed. That's a conclusion I should have made myself. But then again, I've been doing my best to stay away from spoilers and character backstories. Don't want to repeat the same mistake as with ME2.

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Matdeception wrote...

Fenris bi-love interest (No confirmation of any kind, just a heavy leaning towards given past experiences.)

I really doubt this. Bioware tries to differentiate characters in their games that have the potential to be similar, especially sequels.

Some examples from Mass Effect:
- Liara was young, shy and inexperienced, while in ME2 Samara was old, experienced and dedicated.
- Wrex was ancient and a cynic, while Grunt was young and enthusiastic.

I really doubt that Fenris is the bi romance option, simply because Zevran was in Dragon Age: Origins, and I don't think Bioware will do two bisexual elven males in a row.

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For some reason, the female love interests are typically announced before the male ones.

They did this for DA:O too. Morrigan & Leliana were blatantly shown as love interests, whereas Alistair was quietly revealed on the forum and Zevran just had that small bit on his trailer.

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Gill Kaiser wrote...

Matdeception wrote...

Fenris bi-love interest (No confirmation of any kind, just a heavy leaning towards given past experiences.)

I really doubt this. Bioware tries to differentiate characters in their games that have the potential to be similar, especially sequels.

Some examples from Mass Effect:
- Liara was young, shy and inexperienced, while in ME2 Samara was old, experienced and dedicated.
- Wrex was ancient and a cynic, while Grunt was young and enthusiastic.

I really doubt that Fenris is the bi romance option, simply because Zevran was in Dragon Age: Origins, and I don't think Bioware will do two bisexual elven males in a row.

I doubt that the developers/writers view Zevran and Fenris both being elves as anything more than superficial.

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Matdeception wrote...

The homosexual option for males is heavily leaning towards Fenris, given Anders never has shown interest in males at all, and given past examples of bi-sexuality there's certainly credence towards bi-sexual elves.

This is remarkably nonsensical. There's "evidence" for bisexual people of all races in the game. You may as well argue that it's going to be Varric becasue "obviously" all bisexual people are rogues, given past evidence.

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Gill Kaiser wrote...

I really doubt this. Bioware tries to differentiate characters in their games that have the potential to be similar, especially sequels.

Some examples from Mass Effect:
- Liara was young, shy and inexperienced, while in ME2 Samara was old, experienced and dedicated.
- Wrex was ancient and a cynic, while Grunt was young and enthusiastic.

I really doubt that Fenris is the bi romance option, simply because Zevran was in Dragon Age: Origins, and I don't think Bioware will do two bisexual elven males in a row.


Fenris and Zevran have little in common other than being elven slaves. 

And following the bisexual elven males in a row Isabela shouldn't be a s/s option because BW did two human female rogues in a row. We know how that turned out. 

Add to the fact that you don't even have to recruit Fenris and I'm leaning heavily toward him being the bi option. 

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You can easily guess that Anders and Fenris are going to be the two LIs. Since Varric being a framing device would be very difficult to implement him as a LI

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makenzieshepard wrote...

Erani wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

You know that females also have Isabela.


Lesbians and bisexuals aren't real women!

<_<


Is this sarcasm? :blink: 


:mellow:

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I was just kidding hon :wub:

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mrsph wrote...

Since Varric being a framing device would be very difficult to implement him as a LI

Why would that make any difference?

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Saibh wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

You'd have to dig through the Fenris thread, sorry. It was an interview where Gaider explained the difficulty of writing a romance in a ten year arc or something.


I can also verify that he said that. I'm not going to dig up the quote, but he said it.

I just googled "David Gaider romance" and got lucky. I wasn't about to dig through threads either!  =p

http://www.gamezone....-game_romances/

And to address another person in the thread, Isabela was confirmed as a romance on the demo page. Might not be "official," but it's on their website rather than a gamer review site so that's as official as it gets, I'd say.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I really doubt this. Bioware tries to differentiate characters in their games that have the potential to be similar, especially sequels.

Some examples from Mass Effect:
- Liara was young, shy and inexperienced, while in ME2 Samara was old, experienced and dedicated.
- Wrex was ancient and a cynic, while Grunt was young and enthusiastic.

I really doubt that Fenris is the bi romance option, simply because Zevran was in Dragon Age: Origins, and I don't think Bioware will do two bisexual elven males in a row.


Fenris and Zevran have little in common other than being elven slaves. 

And following the bisexual elven males in a row Isabela shouldn't be a s/s option because BW did two human female rogues in a row. We know how that turned out. 

Add to the fact that you don't even have to recruit Fenris and I'm leaning heavily toward him being the bi option. 

I'm inclined to think that Isabela is an outlier to the general trend because she was already shown to be bisexual in DA:O, and wasn't created from scratch for this game. But I acknowledge that it's hardly an airtight theory, and Fenris is, to me, a plausible candidate for bi love interest. I just doubt it.

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That's not entirely true. Isabela was the first LI announced ages ago, and since she's bi, she's available for both Hawke's. As for the other two options, we'll probably have to wait until Valentine's Day. Still, that's no guarantee of LI reveals. I can just picture them not revealing info just to cause more tears. They run their coffee makers with them, you know. The more tears, the longer we'll probably go without info. So, I say stop with the asking. No asking means no tears; no tears means no more coffee; no coffee means Bioware goes insane and gives us the info we want. Bioware fans 1; Bioware 0. WHOOHOO!

Modifié par ACWolfe, 12 février 2011 - 08:34 .