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[Jackalofdeath]

In terms of plot , what do you guys think is more canon, the mage origin or the human  noble origin?

it seems like a lot of the plot rotates around human noble origin definitely more than mage origin. Especially how you can basically become king consort at the end.

How much revolves around the mage origin? because from what i saw, not much matters when you pick mage origin. You don't know Howe , Loghain seems more distant too.
But apparently in DA2, if you picked mage origin in DA1, you're actually a relative to Hawke.

[Augustei]

Human Noble.. The whole related to Hawke thing.. which is a spoiler btw you probably should have clarified that. Will most likely only get a very brief mention in Dragon age 2. and your probably only his cousin or uncle.

There wont be any great development on it

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 13 février 2011 - 04:46 .

[SirDoctorofTARDIS]

Human Nobe. Infact I would say MAle or Female Human noble is the most canon out of ALL the origin storys considering the big backstory you get with Howe.

[caradoc2000]

Dalish elf.

[Glorfindel709]

There is no more canon than another. It's an open ended RPG in which we the players create the character and create the story. To say that one is more canon than the other invalidates the playthroughs of other peoples origins.



That being said, Surana all the way.

[mousestalker]

If you want huge backstory, that would be dwarf noble. The city elf has as much if not more of an axe to grind with Howe and Loghain.



All the origins are canon. Some are longer than others.

[Dayshadow]

Unless it's possible to see the dalish warden when you go visit his clan, the dalish elf is not a legitimate origin unless you did the ultimate sacrifice.

[Last Darkness]

Out of those choices, OP I would say Female Human Noble, Married to Alistair.

Keep in mind the other Origin characters are in the game, they just didnt become a Grey Warden. So even if you played a Female Noble, there is still that mage PC in the tower and related to Hawke (Cousin),



To get into detail though....I get a very clear Feeling the Game wanted you to be a Female Noble+Alistair. But a few other Origins are important.

I think the highly relevant to the world and content Origins are Human Noble, Dwarf Noble and Dahlish Elf. The other ones are kinda 'meh' in reguards to how important you are or how many refrences to your origin you get. The games quite a bit more relevant if your a female character as well. (Female Magi gets alot more story and plot tie ins then the male does for example)

[Last Darkness]

Dayshadow wrote...

Unless it's possible to see the dalish warden when you go visit his clan, the dalish elf is not a legitimate origin unless you did the ultimate sacrifice.

Im not sure what you saying.


But the Dahlish Origin is actualy the one thats truely neutral and has the most freedom. Your a outsider to everyone and everything. Tainted, Exiled and then recruited to the Wardens to preserve your life and gain their strength and their curse.  The Dahlish Warden start out dead, and a clean slate to write upon from then on.

* Mahariel, The Mysterious Stranger.

[Creature 1]

The Dalish origin is an epistle of straw. But I think the human commoner origin was unreasonably excluded from the canon.

[Last Darkness]

Creature 1 wrote...

The Dalish origin is an epistle of straw. But I think the human commoner origin was unreasonably excluded from the canon.

Save us from the Blight Farm Boy !!!!!

What about the Barbarian/Almari Origin?

[Fiery Phoenix]

Human Noble, it would seem.

[maradeux]

Creature 1 wrote...

But I think the human commoner origin was unreasonably excluded from the canon.

They saved the "human commoner" for DA2 - this is Hawke.

[Last Darkness]

maradeux wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

But I think the human commoner origin was unreasonably excluded from the canon.

They saved the "human commoner" for DA2 - this is Hawke.

Also Human Apostate Magi

[erilben]

Human noble made no sense a lot of the times. Like how does the dog get to Flemeth's hut? And then I deleted my human noble after Alistair "forgot" what happened the HN's family when I had just told him.

[Vengeful Nature]

erilben wrote...

Human noble made no sense a lot of the times. Like how does the dog get to Flemeth's hut?

I was wondering that as well. I imagine the dog clinging to the Warden's leg, legs trailing in the air as Flemeth flies off with the Warden in her talons.

But generally I'd agree that human noble seems to be the most canon. It's far more integrated into more of the story than any other origin, plus the Warden's got that extra bit of motivation in seeking revenge on Howe, and thus Loghain, who I always saw as the one who let him do it. It's got it's problems - flying dog and dialogue issues, as mentioned before, and also the whole "Where's Fergus? Oh well, let's move on" issue - but still, the whole plot is a little more personal.

I'll let the issue slide, however, because mages are absolutely kick:alien:ss to play.

Modifié par Vengeful Nature, 13 février 2011 - 07:14 .

[electricfish]

I'm sort of digging either of the elf origins, or dwarf for a good cannon actually. Mages and nobles are an extremely exceptional case for joining the Wardens, and Riorden makes it a point to say that many of the Warden ranks are filled with former criminals and castless and shady characters.

While the Warden-Commander is exceptional, it would be a bigger twist of fate to have him/her be such a powerful person before induction into the Wardens.

[Dayshadow]

Last Darkness wrote...

Dayshadow wrote...

Unless it's possible to see the dalish warden when you go visit his clan, the dalish elf is not a legitimate origin unless you did the ultimate sacrifice.

Im not sure what you saying.

The Dalish elf has the option to return to his clan, the same clan that you visit in DA2.  If you opted to go back and he's not there then it kinda invalidates the decision.

[Angband21]

Where's the canon? All I have seen are Bow, Crossbows and swords! Unless you mean Ballistas

[White_Buffalo94]

mousestalker wrote...

If you want huge backstory, that would be dwarf noble. The city elf has as much if not more of an axe to grind with Howe and Loghain.

All the origins are canon. Some are longer than others.

City Elf has no personal experiences with either to facilitate hatred towards them other than the fact they are humans, and nobles at that.

[White_Buffalo94]

Angband21 wrote...

Where's the canon? All I have seen are Bow, Crossbows and swords! Unless you mean Ballistas

ummmm... canon, not cannon

[erilben]

White_Buffalo94 wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

If you want huge backstory, that would be dwarf noble. The city elf has as much if not more of an axe to grind with Howe and Loghain.

All the origins are canon. Some are longer than others.

City Elf has no personal experiences with either to facilitate hatred towards them other than the fact they are humans, and nobles at that.

They sold the city elf's friends and family into slavery.

[White_Buffalo94]

erilben wrote...

White_Buffalo94 wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

If you want huge backstory, that would be dwarf noble. The city elf has as much if not more of an axe to grind with Howe and Loghain.

All the origins are canon. Some are longer than others.

City Elf has no personal experiences with either to facilitate hatred towards them other than the fact they are humans, and nobles at that.

They sold the city elf's friends and family into slavery.

Oh damn, forgot about that, you are right.
However I think destroying the entire family line except for yourself is far more evil than giving the go-ahead to enslave alienage elves. The fact that the HN family is targeted and the elves are random is much more evil. Deep down, I also believe Loghain had decent intentions at heart (However he still must die) and only supported the enslavement of those elves because he believed it would help ferelden

[SkyWard20]

I don't understand how something can be 'more canon'. It's either canon or it's not.

[1xs3thx1]

The only "Canonical" Origin is the one you picked for your DA2 import. Think of it like real life and alternate realities. Every single decision you make will be played out differently in another universe, and they all exist at the same time. Each play-through, each different decision, all of them exist, but in another place.



BioWare has put a lot of effort into making each Origin carry through and have a different impact on DA2, they, hopefully, put a roughly equal effort into them, as they did originally in DA:O,.



I think of DA:O as the catalyst, The Warden is only the beginning, everything that happens afterward is affected by their decisions. As such, none of them are Canonical to me, aside from the play-through and Origin I am importing.



If you are asking this to get the best "Import" for DA2, then I doubt, hopefully, you will find one. Hopefully, and I trust in them, BioWare has made it so the best import for each individual will be the one the player enjoyed in DA:O the most. However, that is entirely subjective, and I do not find BioWare accountable for things such as that.