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[SalsaDMA]

shoggoth1890 wrote...

Dexi wrote...
If there's a Cthulhu species, why couldn't there be an Angel species?

The good/evil dichotomy is against the original message of Lovecraft's work, and had no identifiable benevolent beings. The authors could throw in a powerful benevolent species, but that's way too cliche and I pray to Cthulhu to visit them in their sleep if they do.

The poster of the "story leak" seems to have forgotten that the Protheans were heavily suggested to be the "life-seeders" already.

I'm pretty sure the "Arkham Horror" board game and its expansions is based on official chtulu lore, and you got something called 'Guardians' there, which are benevolent beings that try to aid against the evil beings.

On another note, I hope we get some more explenations for what was up with protheans conducting experiments on human ancestors after they were supposedly wiped out.

See: http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Eletania under 'the vision'.
The vision specifically says cro-magnon, and according to wiki, we get this dating of those: "The Cro-Magnon (pronounced /kroʊˈmæɡnən/, French [kʁomaɲɔ̃]) were the first early modern humans (early ****** sapiens sapiens) of the EuropeanUpper Paleolithic in Europe. The earliest known remains of Cro-Magnon-like humans are radiometrically dated to 35,000 years before present."

In other words, a noticably period AFTER the 50,000 year marker where the reapers made a habbit of claning house with all life, and thus had ensured the protheans were no more as a non-indoctrinated species.

I find it interesting that it's flagged as 'an event' in the savefiles for getting carried over if you visited the ruins and had this vision.

[Jebel Krong]

^^ it takes a long time to eradicate a galaxy spanning civilisation, i wouldn't read too much into the blurring/overlap of dates.

[Brits]

What a load of rubbish, although the thaught is somewhat pleasing, I can guarantee that the storyline in E3 will blow us away, since the R****I are still to come...

[SalsaDMA]

15,000 years (as the smallest possible timeframe) is too big a time for the 'it takes time to kill off people' line to work proper, imo.



Especially as what takes time is to hunt down the last remnants of survivors that are only trying to hide. Not spotting the obvious base that is conducting open experiments while keeping active monitorial communication connections open.

[Jebel Krong]

@ salsa - not really, given relative distances in light years without necessarily using the mass-relay network for most of it, i'm surprised it doesn't take longer tbh.

[SalsaDMA]

As evidenced by Ilos, not being connected to the mass relay network protected from getting wiped out.



The whole point of the citadel and the relays are to prep species into being easy to round up via the relays. Thus I don't get why you want to ignore the relays ability to get around for the reapers while they are on clanup duty.

[Rayken]

I think it kinda sounds like Stargate



Ori = Reapers

Ancients = supossed "Creators"



although it is a pretty used cliche

[GediminasM]

Don't know is that true, but sounds really interasting.

Modifié par GediminasM, 14 février 2011 - 02:17 .

[Jebel Krong]

SalsaDMA wrote...

As evidenced by Ilos, not being connected to the mass relay network protected from getting wiped out.

The whole point of the citadel and the relays are to prep species into being easy to round up via the relays. Thus I don't get why you want to ignore the relays ability to get around for the reapers while they are on clanup duty.

i'm not ignoring anything, you are: the VI on Ilos specifically states that the genocide of the protheans took ages. there is also no direct confirmation that the reapers were responsible for what befell ilos (for a start the very strong hints of reaper activity in me2 all revolved around things like orbital bombardment, which there were no signs of on Ilos). the citadel being a honey-trap is true, but species do not conveniently evolve necessarily close to mass-relays, so that would account only for the most advanced of each age.

[DaBigDragon]

Do people actually believe this kind of stuff?

[SalsaDMA]

Jebel Krong wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

As evidenced by Ilos, not being connected to the mass relay network protected from getting wiped out.

The whole point of the citadel and the relays are to prep species into being easy to round up via the relays. Thus I don't get why you want to ignore the relays ability to get around for the reapers while they are on clanup duty.

i'm not ignoring anything, you are: the VI on Ilos specifically states that the genocide of the protheans took ages. there is also no direct confirmation that the reapers were responsible for what befell ilos (for a start the very strong hints of reaper activity in me2 all revolved around things like orbital bombardment, which there were no signs of on Ilos). the citadel being a honey-trap is true, but species do not conveniently evolve necessarily close to mass-relays, so that would account only for the most advanced of each age.

It took centuries. Not over a dozen thousands of years. There's a vast difference betweens the two timeframes.

Also, you seem to ignore that Earth did have a mass relay attached to it, so would be within 'striking distance' regardless, and would thus be a system that would be checked up on fairly swiftly if nothing else, but for a cursory recon to see if stuff was there.

Either it's a slipup from the writer that he put protheans as studying cro-magnon humans and not some earlier representation of humanity, or the protheans doing the study were alrady indoctrinated, working in order to 'prep' one of the next races to be harvested. Considering some of the stuff in ME2 this seems more likely, but the connection to the past was never really touched in ME2 which puzzled me.

[Altered Idol]

A friend of mine gave me the latest scoop regarding ME3 too:

He told me that the reapers have only one weakness;a clearly labelled on-off switch

Shepard is presented with a choice in the final battle, he can choose to shut down the Reapers permanently or reboot to factory settings.

Modifié par Altered Idol, 14 février 2011 - 06:07 .

[ObserverStatus]

Altered Idol wrote...

A friend of mine gave me the latest scoop regarding ME3 too:

He told me that the reapers have only one weakness;a clearly labelled on-off switch

Shepard is presented with a choice in the final battle, he can choose to shut down the Reapers permanently or reboot to factory settings.

That actually sounds like a better ending than the OP's one.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

Sorry to break it to you guys who are attempting to be funny with your little mockeries of the OP, but I'm yet to see a single one that makes me even think of laughing.



I agree with the masses in thinking this isn't true, just to clear that up beforehand. It's annoying that for every actual response to the OP, I have to sift through 10 to 15 posts of people attempting to be sarcastic and failing at it.

[DTKT]

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

Sorry to break it to you guys who are attempting to be funny with your little mockeries of the OP, but I'm yet to see a single one that makes me even think of laughing.

I agree with the masses in thinking this isn't true, just to clear that up beforehand. It's annoying that for every actual response to the OP, I have to sift through 10 to 15 posts of people attempting to be sarcastic and failing at it.

Welcome to the internet.

[shoggoth1890]

SalsaDMA wrote...

I'm pretty sure the "Arkham Horror" board game and its expansions is based on official chtulu lore, and you got something called 'Guardians' there, which are benevolent beings that try to aid against the evil beings.

I'm a bit of a Lovecraft loyalist. The benevolent beings that emerged in the Mythos were the creations of other authors, which is why I said "Lovecraft's work".



On another note, I've recently received inside information that the weakness of the Reapers is a frigate sized exhaust port located on the stern. Conventional weaponry won't work though, so you'll have to fly the entire ship into it. And make sure you get a black paint job on your ship, we want them to feel it. "I know you feel this Harbinger!". "This hurts you."

[SalsaDMA]

shoggoth1890 wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...
I'm pretty sure the "Arkham Horror" board game and its expansions is based on official chtulu lore, and you got something called 'Guardians' there, which are benevolent beings that try to aid against the evil beings.

I'm a bit of a Lovecraft loyalist. The benevolent beings that emerged in the Mythos were the creations of other authors, which is why I said "Lovecraft's work".

On another note, I've recently received inside information that the weakness of the Reapers is a frigate sized exhaust port located on the stern. Conventional weaponry won't work though, so you'll have to fly the entire ship into it. And make sure you get a black paint job on your ship, we want them to feel it. "I know you feel this Harbinger!". "This hurts you."

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

[shoggoth1890]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Fair enough. I stand corrected

Nah, my post sounded more jerky than I intended. You were actually correct in what you said, and since the Mythos has expanded beyond Lovecraft's work, drawing a connection between the "EU" Mythos and good/evil dichotomy in a series is still valid. No matter how much I dislike it.

[MSparkyPants]

Pssh. Beings of Light. Creators. Bunch of hullabaloo. Everyone knows the Reapers will get the RROD.

[tonnactus]

After i was spoiled that the protheans were ...
I also thought this was crap.To bad in turned out to be true.It would fit with the horrible Mass Effect 2 storywriting.

[Omega-202]

Anyone who knows the Klencory codex entry (heck I had that one down to memory) could come up with some crap like this.

All this prediction is is a half and half of "duh" knowledge about what the reapers are doing and a huge leap of faith with no supporting or contradicting evidence. Can't say its not true, but there's nothing to say it is. When in doubt, its up to the person who proposes it to support their claim and as they posted it on GFaqs, the likelihood of them being right is VERY low.

[IrishGunman]

JrayM16 wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

J0HNL3I wrote...

did anyone elses bull**** detector go off when they read that?

Mine broke.

Mine just said, "Do you even need me for this?"

Mine blew my finger off. 

[Arijharn]

Slayer299 wrote...

I believe that that person who claims to have the ME3 story is as likely as my PC coming to life tomorrow and trying to eat me when I start up a session of FEAR.

ZOMG, yours too?

[jpbreon]

I hope they don't cop-out like that fantasy in the link. To date, the Reapers and their allies have been delayed by the mere mortals of Shepherd and his team. Even the bringing of Shepherd back was done at immense cost and time, which suggests it isn't a Borderlands New-U clone. Let the Reapers finally be defeated by the galaxy's inhabitants and not a race of anti-Reapers to pop in unexpected this time (as opposed to the countless times they would have let the Reapers go before this).

[marshalleck]

I can't believe this is getting so much attention. It's a crackpot theory that could have been and probably was pulled out of someone's ass back in 2008.

Also, here's Shepard and pals in a lost crypt, with a being of light.

Modifié par marshalleck, 16 février 2011 - 04:12 .