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[Sable Phoenix]

Argh.

>rummages around through notes<

Ah, here we go.  Originally part of a different discussion, but applicable here.

Well, since asari breasts serve the same function as they do in humans, I'd imagine them to be similarly sensitive, and be at least a semi-erogenous zone.

I imagine that the folds and other structures on the backs of their heads under the fringe are pretty dang sensitive. I've assumed that there are lots of extra nerve structures in there to facilitate their melding, since they need to "become a single unified nervous system" with their partner according to the codex.

Since asari reproduction does not, evolutionarily speaking, involve any kind of sexual penetration, I'd imagine the "azure" has nothing to do with the area between their thighs, the way most people assume. I doubt that area is an erogenous zone, period, or any more sensitive than any other area (heck, if its only function is as a birth canal, then it's highly likely that it's less sensitive than other parts of the body, cause childbirth is just not very pleasant by all accounts). If the "azure" was what Shepard touched in her cabin after LOTSB, it seems to be located over the tailbone just above the gluteus muscles. Which would also make sense, with the asari having highly developed nervous systems and that being a nerve cluster even in humans.

In order to induce actual fertilization, I've imagined that there's also an erogenous zone on the front of the asari body, low on their belly just above the pubic bone (possibly extending up to the navel during arousal). This area would probably need to be stimulated at the same time as the one on the rear to induce fertilization. This could be the "azure" as well, or perhaps "azure" refers to both simultaneously.

I figured that sometime in their evolutionary past their reproductive cycle became symbiotically linked to certain kinds of bacteria, much like the Wolbachia bacteria does in certain species of wasp here on Earth. The nervous system must pass current through both the rear and front of the azure to stimulate them to induce fertilization of the asari egg cells.

[Rogue Unit]

titusrsoooooo1337 wrote...

either way, a bj is a bj

You might want to check DA2 out. You'll be pleased.

[Sentox6]

titusrsoooooo1337 wrote...

kelly:...perhaps...

Yeah... no. If Mordin's implication about someone bringing scale itch onto the Normandy is correct, well... who would you put your money on?

[JaylaClark]

Sable Phoenix wrote...

Argh.

>rummages around through notes<

Ah, here we go.  Originally part of a different discussion, but applicable here.

Well, since asari breasts serve the same function as they do in humans, I'd imagine them to be similarly sensitive, and be at least a semi-erogenous zone.

I imagine that the folds and other structures on the backs of their heads under the fringe are pretty dang sensitive. I've assumed that there are lots of extra nerve structures in there to facilitate their melding, since they need to "become a single unified nervous system" with their partner according to the codex.

Since asari reproduction does not, evolutionarily speaking, involve any kind of sexual penetration, I'd imagine the "azure" has nothing to do with the area between their thighs, the way most people assume. I doubt that area is an erogenous zone, period, or any more sensitive than any other area (heck, if its only function is as a birth canal, then it's highly likely that it's less sensitive than other parts of the body, cause childbirth is just not very pleasant by all accounts). If the "azure" was what Shepard touched in her cabin after LOTSB, it seems to be located over the tailbone just above the gluteus muscles. Which would also make sense, with the asari having highly developed nervous systems and that being a nerve cluster even in humans.

In order to induce actual fertilization, I've imagined that there's also an erogenous zone on the front of the asari body, low on their belly just above the pubic bone (possibly extending up to the navel during arousal). This area would probably need to be stimulated at the same time as the one on the rear to induce fertilization. This could be the "azure" as well, or perhaps "azure" refers to both simultaneously.

I figured that sometime in their evolutionary past their reproductive cycle became symbiotically linked to certain kinds of bacteria, much like the Wolbachia bacteria does in certain species of wasp here on Earth. The nervous system must pass current through both the rear and front of the azure to stimulate them to induce fertilization of the asari egg cells.

I do love how we all think about this so ... deeply .

Truth be told, being that I'm a member of the refugee group that formed off of a Liara group that splintered into femShep and maleShep factions, for the most part, and said group is the femShep one, I've heard an awful lot about how asari really shouldn't be interested in birth canal penetration, at least by standard evolutionary design.  (I was almost disturbed by how vehement one or two of the male participants in the discussion were that such an act would probably be uncomfortable, even painful, to asari, but then again I am much more of a self-insert than others in the group, as Alyna and Anya Shepard both have significant information from she-who-is-typing's worldview, which is not a problem Nate and Neate seem to share.  So the fact that they willingly disqualified themselves from being suitable partners if Liara really existed is actually an admirable response on that level.  If still weird to me. )

The problem is, I must say nature itself doesn't always make much sense.  Why does stimulation of the breasts cause a response at all?  There's also the 'fifth base' problem to consider -- there's no evolutionary reason for that to be any sort of interest to a female, or a male, yet because of a happy accident of existence, it actually is considered a legitimate source of pleasure to some people.  Said 'azure' could be close enough to the birth canal in asari to provide the same 'happy accident'.  (Then again, it could be better suited to Turian-based stimuli, which Garrus fans and Garrus detractors alike have suggested is nothing like the equipment of a human.)

The major issue of course, is that this will most likely never get a Word of God clarification to it.  Unlike Star Wars and Star Trek, this is a video game franchise, and one that is made by people likely (in my eyes, based on recent observations of behavior of the company) chastened by its appearance on Fake News sufficiently to not want to ever draw attention to the fact that sex exists in the universe of a game.  We'll just have to make do with our reasonings.

[LiquidGrape]

rynluna wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
All the female LIs (including Samara, I'll have to force her) are giving me one in ME3:devil:

Well, hopefully you only use a videogame to assert yourself as the manliest dude on the planet instead of an actual woman. 

Don't worry ryn, I've always gotten the impression that it is the internet chauvinists who end up spending the rest of their lives throttling themselves, crying into their uneven stubble.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 14 février 2011 - 10:37 .

[Dominus5412]

There's nothing wrong with uneven stubbles.

[lawp79]

LiquidGrape wrote...

rynluna wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
All the female LIs (including Samara, I'll have to force her) are giving me one in ME3:devil:

Well, hopefully you only use a videogame to assert yourself as the manliest dude on the planet instead of an actual woman. 

Don't worry ryn, I've always gotten the impression that it is the internet chauvinists who end up spending the rest of their lives throttling themselves, crying into their uneven stubble.

Lol, I have to say that sometimes when I read posts like this it makes me think that the bigger the perve the further away they are from reality.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

rynluna wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

titusrsoooooo1337 wrote...

either way, a bj is a bj

All the female LIs (including Samara, I'll have to force her) are giving me one in ME3:devil:

Well, hopefully you only use a videogame to assert yourself as the manliest dude on the planet instead of an actual woman. 

LOLZ I was joking.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

LiquidGrape wrote...

rynluna wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
All the female LIs (including Samara, I'll have to force her) are giving me one in ME3:devil:

Well, hopefully you only use a videogame to assert yourself as the manliest dude on the planet instead of an actual woman. 

Don't worry ryn, I've always gotten the impression that it is the internet chauvinists who end up spending the rest of their lives throttling themselves, crying into their uneven stubble.

Now now, I was kidding. No need to get a little rude.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

lawp79 wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

rynluna wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
All the female LIs (including Samara, I'll have to force her) are giving me one in ME3:devil:

Well, hopefully you only use a videogame to assert yourself as the manliest dude on the planet instead of an actual woman. 

Don't worry ryn, I've always gotten the impression that it is the internet chauvinists who end up spending the rest of their lives throttling themselves, crying into their uneven stubble.

Lol, I have to say that sometimes when I read posts like this it makes me think that the bigger the perve the further away they are from reality.

Who are you talking about?

[LiquidGrape]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Now now, I was kidding. No need to get a little rude.

Fine, I was a bit stingy there. But you have to realise the implications of your post were anything but funny.

[Severyx]

Xilizhra wrote...

After pondering it with a few of my friends, I've come to the conclusion that there's no logical reason for asari to be equipped for penetrative sex. Granted, many will say that there's no logical reason for the asari to be, period, and they wouldn't be totally wrong; personally, I believe they were artificially engineered by someone. However, even with that, considering that their reproductive processes are mostly mental and they bred with each other for thousands of years, they have absolutely no need to be receptive to penises.

Thus, I contend that the asari birth canal, though located in a similar spot to the human one, is not a pleasure zone or adapted for penetration. It's possibly comparable to the human cervix, a valve meant to enable passage only one way; even if it wasn't actually painful for anything to enter it, it'd likely be odd and uncomfortable.

And so I pose this question to Maleshep/Liara fans: if this was true and you couldn't engage in penetration (keeping in mind that there are several other ways to engage in physical pleasure as seen with Femshep), would you stay with her or would you move on to a human (or quarian) LI?

These threads, no matter how honest and scientific-sounding the OP is, always take strange turns. Silly internet, you corrupt everything.

Regarding the OP's wonder about asari intercourse: No, they don't have it. Birth canal, yes. Penetration, no. This is why they are compatible with all genders of all (organic) species: they are method independent. The simple truth is one we've all heard a hundred times. They mate via connecting nervous systems with their partner. They grab DNA to randomize their offspring's genetic outlook and that's it.

Any inclination to think that they do have penetrative intercourse is not fan service (since Bioware has YET to make ANY such inferences), it's personal fantasy inconsistent with proper canon.

I play manshep, and yes, I would still go with an asari. This is the same understanding about asari since I learned about it in ME1, and it has not changed. The fact is, asari stimulate nerves regardless of their placement or use. I think asari can then access pleasure center combinations that no other species can. Who's to say that they can't bring about sexual fantasies during a meld, either? They know all your thoughts in that moment and can plant ones in your mind (made evident by Shiala and the prothean cipher). Best sex partner or the best sex partner?

Doesn't mean that adorable personalities can't still win me over from time to time, though...

Modifié par Severyx, 14 février 2011 - 01:49 .

[Rune-Chan]

I am pretty certain that physically speaking Asari are exactly the same as human women except they are blue, have the head crest things and are natural biotics.

Sex would probably be the same.
Birth would be the same, except how conception is achieved.

Azure seems pretty obviously a slang word for vagina. The "near the bottom" conversation with Liara in LOTSB seemed to be a pun indicating this.

I am sure many will cry "opinion" on this one, but I don't see Bioware putting this much effort into something so minor.

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 14 février 2011 - 02:02 .

[Severyx]

Machines Are Us wrote...

I am pretty certain that physically speaking Asari are exactly the same as human women except they are blue, have the head crest things and are natural biotics.

Sex would probably be the same.

To counter this thought of yours:

A quote from the Mass Effect Codex...

Although asari have one gender, they are not asexual. An asari provides two copies of her own genes to her offspring. The second set is altered in a unique process called melding.

During melding, an asari consciously attunes her nervous system to her partner's, sending and receiving electrical impulses directly through the skin. The partner can be another asari, or an alien of either gender. Effectively, the asari and her partner briefly become one unified nervous system.

This is concrete canon information that points out how asari reproduction is very different from a human's. Note that penetration is never mentioned.

Why would a species have the organs/nervous system makeup to accept penetrative intercourse if they do not by any means 'fertilize' that way?

Modifié par Severyx, 14 février 2011 - 02:29 .

[Rune-Chan]

Severyx wrote...

Machines Are Us wrote...

I am pretty certain that physically speaking Asari are exactly the same as human women except they are blue, have the head crest things and are natural biotics.

Sex would probably be the same.

To counter this thought of yours:

A quote from the Mass Effect Codex...

Although asari have one gender, they are not asexual. An asari provides two copies of her own genes to her offspring. The second set is altered in a unique process called melding.

During melding, an asari consciously attunes her nervous system to her partner's, sending and receiving electrical impulses directly through the skin. The partner can be another asari, or an alien of either gender. Effectively, the asari and her partner briefly become one unified nervous system.

This is concrete canon information that points out how asari reproduction is very different from a human's. Note that penetration is never mentioned.

Why would a species have the organs/nervous system makeup to accept penetrative intercourse if they do not by any means 'fertilize' that way?

True enough, but Liara also says when you romance her "It isn't just sex, we also combine minds" or something to that effect. She pretty openly suggests that there is some kind of physical act as well.

I am reasonably certain 'Redemption' mentions something as well in relation to Grayson and his Asari partner. I believe it mentions how the mind-meld takes place at the climax (orgasm) so this also suggets that there is some kind of sexual intercourse.

[jeweledleah]

my quick 2 cents. even within humanity, there are many many ways to derive sexual pleasure - and thats' without the benefit of the direct stimulation of the pleasure centers that asari can provide.

I assume that asari have a nervous system similar to that of humans (in other words - they have nerve endings close to the surface of their skin) so touch would be pleasurable. even if you don't derive orgasms from touch - it still feels good and I'm guessing coupled with melding it would feel better then just melding alone. penetration optional.



do asari have something similar to birth canal etc? maybe? can it be used for asari's pleasure? we don't know. can Asari accommodate their partners, within reason? of course, even if specific act doesn't give them direct pleasure, overall encounter still does. not like BJ giver contrary to the infamous movie gets direct pleasure from the act alone. the pleasure is in sharing the experience and seeing your partner in ecstasy.

[Wulfram]

Apparently Liara and WhateverShep find something that works for them. I don't think I need to know anything more than that

[jlb524]

Human female and asari physiology are not the same. If it was (or even remotely similar) Liara wouldn't have been impressed with Dr. Chakwas knowledge of asari physiology.

I agree with the OP in that it's logical to believe they wouldn't want to engage in this activity and it's a bit ludicrous, and probably chauvinist, to think that they do.

However, I'm sure if BW ever commented on this, they'd go with the fanservice answer and say 'of course manly DudeShep can stick in where ever he wants!' He does have balls of steel after all.

Machines Are Us wrote...

I am reasonably certain
'Redemption' mentions something as well in relation to Grayson and his
Asari partner. I believe it mentions how the mind-meld takes place at
the climax (orgasm) so this also suggets that there is some kind of
sexual intercourse.

No, it does not suggest that.

Modifié par jlb524, 14 février 2011 - 04:16 .

[Severyx]

Machines Are Us wrote...

[Spamsnip]

True enough, but Liara also says when you romance her "It isn't just sex, we also combine minds" or something to that effect. She pretty openly suggests that there is some kind of physical act as well.

This statement is very irregular to use as evidence - it is very subjective. The way she uses the word 'sex' could be interpreted as either the physical act or the general all encompassing verb, which doesn't necessarily imply physical penetration. Case in point: She says this FemShep as well.

Physical acts are obviously necessary. The skin of an asari needs to be in physical contact with their partner's for a reproductive meld, and this could also include the physical act of foreplay. Both of which all genders can supply.

Bringing a ManShep vs. FemShep into this is trivial. Asari mate with either gender the exact same way. I will bold the following statement for emphasis: Asari can mate with any species and gender because their method of reproduction is NOT limited by physical fertilization. Sorry, folks, this also means human internally delivered sperm.

There's not even any mention of where the asari's birth canal even is. For all we know, asari daughters come out of a mother's belly button. As mentioned in my previous post, ManShep doesn't even NEED physical intercourse. Nuff said.

As for LesEnfantsTerribles, I've already addressed all your points.

Modifié par Severyx, 14 février 2011 - 04:35 .

[Moronic Fool]

I'm not trying to be rude, but does it matter? Asari are hot and screwable. That's all we need.

[Severyx]

I only put on my fact face when people beg for it. :>

[jeweledleah]

Severyx wrote..


Physical acts are obviously necessary. The skin of an asari needs to be in physical contact with their partner's for a reproductive meld, and this could also include the physical act of foreplay. Both of which all genders can supply.

actualy, Liara specificaly states that physical contact may or may not be involved but NOT nessesary.  from the impression I got, physical contact majority of the time is for the benefit of the other species in the pairing.  that is not to say that asari cannot enjoy physical contact, just that its unnessesary for reproduction.

you know, kinda like its unnessesary for a human woman to enjoy the act of reproduction in order to get pregnant.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 14 février 2011 - 04:47 .

[jlb524]

jeweledleah wrote...

actualy, Liara specificaly states that physical contact may or may not be involved but NOT nessesary.  from the impression I got, physical contact majority of the time is for the benefit of the other species in the pairing.  that is not to say that asari cannot enjoy physical contact, just that its unnessesary for reproduction.

you know, kinda like its unnessesary for a human woman to enjoy the act of reproduction in order to get pregnant.

No one is stating that they don't enjoy physical contact of some kind, but that they wouldn't enjoy a specific type of contact.  Heck, there are human women that don't really like intercourse and their bodies evolved to enable it.

Asari had sex with just themselves for thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands  of years...I'm sure they did things to each other that were physically as well as mentally plearsuable...none of those things would have involved any form of penetration and the notion of penetration would be incredibly absurd to them.