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[Albatroz]

Count Viceroy wrote...

The RustMonster wrote...

That's why I tend to skip the actual sex scenes. They look awkward and it feels awkward to sit in my basement watching it. To add full nudity to that just makes it worse. And personally, I don't really want to see any CGI dude's junk on my tv screen. That's really not necessary for most people.

A solution then would be to have implied nudity ala mass effect if they insist on having these scenes. The underwear, esp on characters like Isabella who wears less normally is just insulting my intellect.

This I am all in favor of. Imply nudity. Imply sex. I just really do not want to see any explicit nudity or sex. That's just not something I want in my video games.

[hrothgar99]

fem hawke......yowzaaaaa

[Hedera]

Forget awkward undie-humping.  If the music isn't THIS, an opportunity will have been missed.  

[Russalka]

chunkyman wrote...

Russalka wrote...

To balance out the boob talk, I wish every man has firm and nice pectorals.

Don't forget chest hair. Hawke is supposed to be awesome, but he doesn't have any chest hair! Everyone knows that coolness and masculinity is directly proportional to chest hair!

Proof...

It has to be on this page. Spread the message.

[Seagloom]

MerinTB wrote...

Holy crow, I think I'm beginning to see the attraction to femHawke now. 

I do believe this falls under the category of epic boobs. Yeeikes! There go my hopes of playing a LadyHawke with a modest bust size. Not that I mind large breasts, but I would have preferred something in the B or C range for my own character.

Fenris being confirmed as a LadyHawke option will be great news for some fans, though. Is there another male love interest or is that it for DA2? I am not a huge fan of the guy. Looks my character will still go for Isabela. Maybe they can compete to find who has the bigger chest.

Modifié par Seagloom, 14 février 2011 - 05:42 .

[crimzontearz]

you have to wonder if they are going to have different scenes depending on wether Fenris and Isabela are romanced by a femhawke or a manhawke



I hope they do

[Raanz]

Filament wrote...

I doubt the underwear has anything to do with Fox, there are more recent games out there with an M rating that have more nudity. Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe BioWare did what they did because they chose to, not because of some oppressive censorship overlords?

^This.  I doubt anything that was talked about in the press (non-gaming press) made a damn bit of difference to Bioware....hell they probably relished it.  More pub, equals more attention, equals more sales.

[Seventh H3ll]

cgrimm54 wrote...

Forget awkward undie-humping.  If the music isn't THIS, an opportunity will have been missed.  

Nooo! How could you! This is gonna be stuck in my mind the whole time I play Dragon Age now.

[Count Viceroy]

Seagloom wrote...
 Maybe they can compete to find who has the bigger chest.

Motorboating for all.

[Shepard Lives]

The RustMonster wrote...

Mass Effect 1 did it tastefully, which I consider an extremely rare exception. And I'm not saying that I find any of that stuff over ofensive. I'm not saying that stuff shouldn't be in for the children, or for religious reasons. Personally, I don't want to see that stuff. I have no desire to see any of that sort of stuff digitally rendered. That goes for a girl's boobs and a dude's junk. I'm all for romance, but please just imply the sex or allow the scenes to be skipped. I personally have no desire to see any explicit sexaul acts in my video games.

You're missing the point. Personally, I don't want sex scenes in games so that I may beat off to virtual boobies.
I want them because in a society that is as sex-centric and sexuo-phobic as Western society, tastefully done nude scenes are the best way to show that games are as respectable a medium as any other.
Bioware is a developer that has done a lot to prove that videogames aren't exclusively for desperate, hormone-addled teenage males (which is the stereotype the media propose us), and the ME1 scenes were an especially big step. Going back to underwear dryhumping in ME2 meant losing a lot of the reputation they had so carefully amassed, and seeing it is back in DAII is highly frustrating.

[GodWood]

The RustMonster wrote...
This I am all in favor of. Imply nudity. Imply sex. I just really do not want to see any explicit nudity or sex. That's just not something I want in my video games.

Yet decapitating someone is cool beans?
Will never get this mindset.

[Taleroth]

GodWood wrote...

The RustMonster wrote...
This I am all in favor of. Imply nudity. Imply sex. I just really do not want to see any explicit nudity or sex. That's just not something I want in my video games.

Yet decapitating someone is cool beans?
Will never get this mindset.

If the game goes through cheesy dialogue to lead into a 30 second segment of me decaptitating someone set to music with various cuts and angles, I might feel similarly about it as well.

Modifié par Taleroth, 14 février 2011 - 05:46 .

[WidowMaker9394]

You people are amazing. You can see the whole scene playing out just by looking at a screen.

[Albatroz]

GodWood wrote...

The RustMonster wrote...
This I am all in favor of. Imply nudity. Imply sex. I just really do not want to see any explicit nudity or sex. That's just not something I want in my video games.

Yet decapitating someone is cool beans?
Will never get this mindset.

Look, I'm not saying it makes a lot of sense. Maybe I'm just desensitized to violence. But I personally don't want to see full nudity in the game. Sure, I'll concede it's possible to do partial nudity or implied nudity in the game. But to have fully nude animated figures in a video game...well I just don't think it can be done tastefully. I personally have no desire to see it. I understand it may not be designed to pornographic, I'll admit that my first post about this I misinterpreted the poster's comment. But even when they try to do full, explicit nudity, even tastefully, I still think it'll end up looking silly and awkward. That's just me. I'm not going to try and convert people over to my side, just trying to make my point clear. 

[David Gaider]

WidowMaker9394 wrote...
You people are amazing. You can see the whole scene playing out just by looking at a screen.

Indeed. Let's not jump to conclusions about what you will or will not be seeing, or assumptions about the context of the screenshots in question. I know you will all do it anyhow, but realize that you are extrapolating when you do it, please.

[Beerfish]

They should just flash up a graphic when it is time for the sex scene with the following. "Sex scene, feel free to be like Oghren to go to your tent for a 5 minute break. The game will resume in 5 minutes." and then have a countdown.

[Russalka]

David Gaider wrote...
Indeed. Let's not jump to conclusions about what you will or will not be seeing, or assumptions about the context of the screenshots in question. I know you will all do it anyhow, but realize that you are extrapolating when you do it, please.

You fulfilled a prophecy.

[AlanC9]

Count Viceroy wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Hey, cut the parents some slack. Trying to figure out what's in every game your kids are interested in would be a huge effort, and unless the parent is a gamer too relying on an ESRB rating is a hell of a lot more efficient. I'm not even sure how you'd find out what's in a game until the "Let's Play" videos start going up, and that stuff's not there on day-of-release.

Yes, parenting takes effort. No **** I'd rather take the time to make sure I know what my Kid is doing rather than relying on some corporate sensoring board make my decisions for me.

How much time are you talking about taking? How many hours? Doing what?

[catabuca]

Shepard Lives wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

I wonder what is done in DA2 about same gender romance... =P
The first one was nice as it had a chance for all kinds of warden (i havent got DAO... i just read DA Wiki)

Worry not, M/M romances have been confirmed in.

Indeed. The only question waiting to be answered is who the m/m LI will be.

[Albatroz]

Shepard Lives wrote...

The RustMonster wrote...

Mass Effect 1 did it tastefully, which I consider an extremely rare exception. And I'm not saying that I find any of that stuff over ofensive. I'm not saying that stuff shouldn't be in for the children, or for religious reasons. Personally, I don't want to see that stuff. I have no desire to see any of that sort of stuff digitally rendered. That goes for a girl's boobs and a dude's junk. I'm all for romance, but please just imply the sex or allow the scenes to be skipped. I personally have no desire to see any explicit sexaul acts in my video games.

You're missing the point. Personally, I don't want sex scenes in games so that I may beat off to virtual boobies.
I want them because in a society that is as sex-centric and sexuo-phobic as Western society, tastefully done nude scenes are the best way to show that games are as respectable a medium as any other.
Bioware is a developer that has done a lot to prove that videogames aren't exclusively for desperate, hormone-addled teenage males (which is the stereotype the media propose us), and the ME1 scenes were an especially big step. Going back to underwear dryhumping in ME2 meant losing a lot of the reputation they had so carefully amassed, and seeing it is back in DAII is highly frustrating.

I guess I can see your point, but at the same time I'll say again Mass Effect was an extremely rare exception in this case. Has anyone seen the Heavy Rain sex scene? In my opinion, the entire thing was very awkward to watch. Sure, it can be used to display that video games are an acceptable medium, but that's still something I don't really want to see. It's the same with movies or books. In a movie, sure a sex scene can be done well, but at the same time it can easily be done really really badly. If I'm reading a book and two characters are in that kind of relationship, I don't really need the explicit details. All artistic mediums could convey their points about romantic, mature sex just as well if not better by implying, or showing the bare minimum rather than showing every last detail.

[Kharizma]

David Gaider wrote...

WidowMaker9394 wrote...
You people are amazing. You can see the whole scene playing out just by looking at a screen.

Indeed. Let's not jump to conclusions about what you will or will not be seeing, or assumptions about the context of the screenshots in question. I know you will all do it anyhow, but realize that you are extrapolating when you do it, please.

Oh sure spoil all the fun with a  voice of reason.  Much more fun to run around in chicken little mode.

[Ryzaki]

...Why is Isabela wearing more underwear undressed than she does fully? And what happened to her black thong?

[PsychoBlonde]

Beerfish wrote...

They should just flash up a graphic when it is time for the sex scene with the following. "Sex scene, feel free to be like Oghren to go to your tent for a 5 minute break. The game will resume in 5 minutes." and then have a countdown.

INTERMISSION.

I wouldn't mind total nudity if I were playing alone in a room with a door that locked, but my housemate's computer is right across from mine and we're both in here about 70% of the time when we're awake.  If there is total nudity in DA2, he will NEVER LET ME LIVE IT DOWN--and I prefer to enjoy the game without a bunch of lewd comments coming from over my shoulder.

I can't even watch a decent R-rated movie any more.

[Taleroth]

Ryzaki wrote...

...Why is Isabela wearing more underwear undressed than she does fully? And what happened to her black thong?

Fair observation!

[Wrathra]

*sigh* are the Dragon Age characters teenagers hiding in the basement? More underwear humping? Really? Are we really that put off by sexuality? 

Modifié par Wrathra, 14 février 2011 - 05:57 .