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[mellifera]

Hawke92 wrote...

Men i really really hope that Anders is the next Li cause i mean come on the female Hawke dosen't have a human straight Li that's not fair.

Man Hawke does not have a "human straight Li" either.

[obsessedwjpn]

Ryzaki wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if all romance interests wind up bi this time around.

I doubt it. We'd get a bunch of whining about how certain people somehow lost "choices" by all LIs being bi. Or even better it's "unrealistic". *rolls eyes* 

...how do you LOSE choice with lis being bi?

Exactly. 

There's always that one fool who goes "I shouldn't have to share my LIs!" or that they can't romance a male LI with a female character because its weird that he's bisexual. 

And yes I have heard that nonsense on these forums. 

Because some people have differing opinions? Just because some people want every character to be BI doesn't mean that it is beneficial for everyone, same for those who want straight characters. It is important to realize we are all different in our tastes and not everyone is going to jump on the bandwagon of having all bisexual characters. I, personally, like to see differences in sexual orientation because that orientation does play a role in the character and their development in my opinion.

[Xallah]

andar91 wrote...

YES! So happy about Fenris. Now I just need Anders confirmation and my day will be made.

+1

Fenris and Anders as LIs and life is perfect

[Lord Gremlin]

Sex in underwear... Again. Look, this is creepy. It's like they all have some strange psychic disorders.

[Ryzaki]

obsessedwjpn wrote...
Because some people have differing opinions? Just because some people want every character to be BI doesn't mean that it is beneficial for everyone, same for those who want straight characters. It is important to realize we are all different in our tastes and not everyone is going to jump on the bandwagon of having all bisexual characters. I, personally, like to see differences in sexual orientation because that orientation does play a role in the character and their development in my opinion.

And I never said it was so your point is? 

Yes because I totally said everyone should jump on the bandwagon. BTW there isn't a bandwagon of all bi LIs. Most people are dead set against it and I frankly while thnking it could be believeable would prefer straight/gay and bi. 

Great. So that has what exactly to do with what I was saying? Because we all know when someone says some people they actually mean you. 

And of course orientation plays a role with characterization. It doesn't however require a certain type of "character" and all of the LIs could believeably be bi. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 février 2011 - 07:20 .

[panamakira]

Xallah wrote...

andar91 wrote...

YES! So happy about Fenris. Now I just need Anders confirmation and my day will be made.

+1

Fenris and Anders as LIs and life is perfect

Right. I got Fenris, now give me Anders!

[_Somebody]

obsessedwjpn wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if all romance interests wind up bi this time around.

I doubt it. We'd get a bunch of whining about how certain people somehow lost "choices" by all LIs being bi. Or even better it's "unrealistic". *rolls eyes* 

...how do you LOSE choice with lis being bi?

Exactly. 

There's always that one fool who goes "I shouldn't have to share my LIs!" or that they can't romance a male LI with a female character because its weird that he's bisexual. 

And yes I have heard that nonsense on these forums. 

Because some people have differing opinions? Just because some people want every character to be BI doesn't mean that it is beneficial for everyone, same for those who want straight characters. It is important to realize we are all different in our tastes and not everyone is going to jump on the bandwagon of having all bisexual characters. I, personally, like to see differences in sexual orientation because that orientation does play a role in the character and their development in my opinion.

This. I have no problem with some of the characters being BI (I romance Leliana in most of my DAO runs), but I dont think that every character should be the same.

[GreenSoda]

DJBare wrote...

Kakulukiam wrote...

Dont know, maybe it's just my imagination but to me it looks like parts of FemHawke were edited in Photoshop.
The left side looks sharp and clean, the other side, esp her boob looks very smudgy and blurry.
http://img408.images...8/5248/hmmn.jpg

I'm thinking the same, does anyone have the source?

Imo, it's more likely a depth of field effect.

[obsessedwjpn]

Ryzaki wrote...

obsessedwjpn wrote...
Because some people have differing opinions? Just because some people want every character to be BI doesn't mean that it is beneficial for everyone, same for those who want straight characters. It is important to realize we are all different in our tastes and not everyone is going to jump on the bandwagon of having all bisexual characters. I, personally, like to see differences in sexual orientation because that orientation does play a role in the character and their development in my opinion.

And I never said it was so your point is? 

Yes because I totally said everyone should jump on the bandwagon. BTW there isn't a bandwagon of all bi LIs. Most people are dead set against it and I frankly while thnking it could be believeable would prefer straight/gay and bi. 

Great. So that has what exactly to do with what I was saying? Because we all know when someone says some people they actually mean you. 

No need to get testy. I was just stating an opinion, I meant no offense. I was just giving the other point of view because some people were saying you don't lose out when all the love interests are bisexual. There was a whole thread on this subject awhile ago so actually there is a good amount of support behind having all bisexual love interests.

Modifié par obsessedwjpn, 14 février 2011 - 07:22 .

[Ryzaki]

obsessedwjpn wrote...

No need to get testy. I was just stating an opinion, I meant no offense. I was just giving the other point of view because some people were saying you don't lose out when all the love interest are bisexual.

So what exactly do you lose out on when an LI is bisexual?  

Edit: As for that thread I participated in it and there was far more against than for. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 février 2011 - 07:24 .

[Falmung]

Holy cow?! Lady Hawke?! What is with that massive package.

About the facial hair. I think its because some years have passed. Bioware said that the look of characters would change across the years.

Modifié par Falmung, 14 février 2011 - 07:24 .

[Ortaya Alevli]

There's bi and there's bi.

Bi may refer to Zevran- or Leliana-style preference where the romance interest in question declares their bisexuality in all scenarios. Or the said romance interest may assume a separate role for male and female protagonists, like they were either always straight or always gay depending on Hawke's gender.

There's a difference.

[SnakeHelah]

Ryzaki wrote...

obsessedwjpn wrote...

No need to get testy. I was just stating an opinion, I meant no offense. I was just giving the other point of view because some people were saying you don't lose out when all the love interest are bisexual.

So what exactly do you lose out on when an LI is bisexual? 

I think they mean/think that the LI is going to lose "potential" and "depth" when it is BI, because bw will invest more time into making different choices for either gender. Though that isn't entirely the case... Leliana?

[Ryzaki]

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

There's bi and there's bi.
Bi may refer to Zevran- or Leliana-style preference where the romance interest in question declares their bisexuality in all scenarios. Or the said romance interest may assume a separate role for male and female protagonists, like they were either always straight or always gay depending on Hawke's gender.
There's a difference.

 

The latter somewhat confuses me. They had no relationships until Hawke came along? Lame. 

SnakeHelah wrote...
I think they mean/think that the LI is going to lose "potential" and "depth" when it is BI, because bw will invest more time into making different choices for either gender. Though that isn't entirely the case... Leliana?

...But how does adding more choices and backstory make someone lose depth? Though yes Leliana was a good case of it not simply being a gender switch. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 février 2011 - 07:26 .

[The Lesser Evil]

The first thing that went through my mind was "Male!Hawke's nipples are a bit on the light side." I don't know what's wrong with me.

Modifié par The Lesser Evil, 14 février 2011 - 07:26 .

[Eorion_Moonwing]

Ryzaki wrote...

So what exactly do you lose out on when an LI is bisexual?  

Edit: As for that thread I participated in it and there was far more against than for. 

Alistair`s rose and marriage and Morrigan`s love child - gender specific content in other words. I think people are afraid to lose this.

[Koiruoho]

Addai67 wrote...
Re the rape joke on the previous page... I'm gonna assume the poster is 12 years old and needs to be told, but that is never funny.

I'm not sure whether you're talking about me but it was actually a joke about the fact that someone absolutely had to enquire about the possibility of rape. Although it's not like the general creep factor around here is low, mind you...

[Ryzaki]

Eorion_Moonwing wrote...
Alistair`s rose and marriage and Morrigan`s love child - gender specific content in other words. I think people are afraid to lose this.

Why would they lose such things? I would be in favor of gender exclusive content in the case of bi LIs. 

And Morri's love child was gender specific but you certainly didn't have to romance her to get it. As for romancing Alistair you had to be a female and noble and he had to not hate you that's all. It had little to do with the romance. While love met with an auto persuade success you could still marry him even while having another lover (Zevran). 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 février 2011 - 07:30 .

[The Lesser Evil]

Eorion_Moonwing wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

So what exactly do you lose out on when an LI is bisexual?  

Edit: As for that thread I participated in it and there was far more against than for. 

Alistair`s rose and marriage and Morrigan`s love child - gender specific content in other words. I think people are afraid to lose this.

That's not content you lose out on when a LI is bisexual, it's content you lose out on when your LI is straight. I'm thinking that regardless of her orientation, having a child with Morrigan would require more than a dark ritual if the Warden were female, though. A better comparison would be Morrigan's ring.

But still, that's something you'd GAIN if they were bisexual, not something you'd lose.

[Chuvvy]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

Sex in underwear... Again. Look, this is creepy. It's like they all have some strange psychic disorders.

Hawke is a never nude.

[obsessedwjpn]

In the end, even if Bioware doesn't make all love interests bisexual, modders will so haha. This does not mean that Bioware shouldn't but modders, in some cases, do an even better job than the original source might as far as understanding what people want out of a bisexual love interest.

[NKKKK]

Looks good, thought you guys had gotten prudish, guess not

[Count Viceroy]

NKKKK wrote...

Looks good, thought you guys had gotten prudish, guess not

You did see that Isabela is wearing more clothes than normally right?

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 14 février 2011 - 07:32 .