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[TowranPeter]

I played Mass Effect 1 over & over again. I couldn't stop playing it. It was just so damn good, it reminded me of the old school genre of scifi. Scifi used to have deep, thought provoking meaning but you don't get that goodness anymore.  Mass Effect one reminds me a lot of the Blade Runner and Dune.   I think I discovered every nook and cranny in ME1.   When I finally beat it, it was a huge satisfying euphoria.

But now with Mass Effect 2, I don't know why but I'm bored.  There isn't enough mental stimulation and not enough dialogue. Sure it's a good shooter and sure I can up the difficulty, but that's not what I mean.  I'm talking about thought provoking content that makes you think and pushes your limits.  The exploration is really not there anymore, it all feels like a very straight and linear. The vastness is gone.  It feels like a "Video game" instead of an "epic experience".

I think the planet scanning really destroyed the game in a lot of ways.  It's so utterly boring that it discourages playing the game. The planet scanning is like this horrible punishment that Bioware bestowed upon us.  Maybe Bioware hates us in some way and they wanted to get back at us?  I immediately think if I did something wrong to ****** Bioware off for them to force this horrible task on us. 

Anyways, Mass Effect One was an epic masterpiece.  Mass Effect two story sucks so far but hey it shoots good, just like many other games out there.  Good shooter, no story, but at least you have a target to shoot.

Modifié par TowranPeter, 14 février 2011 - 06:25 .

[AdmiralCheez]

[Fixers0]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I'm sorry OP this is the best you can get appearntly these guys here think that Mass Audiance appeal is much more important then a good story.

[fredster184]

Cool story bro

[ObserverStatus]

Either play the game or don't. We really don't care if you think the game is worth your time.

[wolfsite]

Ya sorry but coming here with anything like that is going to be considered trolling by most people especially over a year after release of the game.

[BWBamboo]

I was disappointed at first, but after getting your old squaddies back and with LotSB, Overlord and some really neat sidequests I started to feel at home. Sad thing is, ME2's gameplay spoiled me, so ME1's combat feels lacking now. All in all, both games have their merits and flaws

[AdmiralCheez]

Fixers0 wrote...

I'm sorry OP this is the best you can get appearntly these guys here
think that Mass Audiance appeal is much more important then a good
story.

Do you really want me to go into detail about how sick and tired I am of hearing this BS about ME2 being stupid and shallow? Because I'll write a damn essay about it.  ME2's overachring plot was lackluster, I'll admit, but give me enough time in front of a keyboard and I will gladly explain to you the parts where the writing kicked supreme ass.

For now, be satisfied with the beluga whale. It's cute.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 14 février 2011 - 06:40 .

[Dexi]

 

[Sailears]

No need for bashing the OPs viewpoint.
Although this has been discussed time and again, and despite the apparent negativity, there are valid points raised.

OP, I urge you to persevere with it, even if it seems to be a disappointment at the moment. I felt the same way (and to some extent still do) but the game grew on me over time, and still is an extremely enjoyable experience.

[MajesticJazz]

TowranPeter wrote...

I played Mass Effect 1 over & over again. I couldn't stop playing it. It was just so damn good, it reminded me of the old school genre of scifi. Scifi used to have deep, thought provoking meaning but you don't get that goodness anymore.  Mass Effect one reminds me a lot of the Blade Runner and Dune.   I think I discovered every nook and cranny in ME1.   When I finally beat it, it was a huge satisfying euphoria.

But now with Mass Effect 2, I don't know why but I'm bored.  There isn't enough mental stimulation and not enough dialogue. Sure it's a good shooter and sure I can up the difficulty, but that's not what I mean.  I'm talking about thought provoking content that makes you think and pushes your limits.  The exploration is really not there anymore, it all feels like a very straight and linear. The vastness is gone.  It feels like a "Video game" instead of an "epic experience".

I think the planet scanning really destroyed the game in a lot of ways.  It's so utterly boring that it discourages playing the game. The planet scanning is like this horrible punishment that Bioware bestowed upon us.  Maybe Bioware hates us in some way and they wanted to get back at us?  I immediately think if I did something wrong to ****** Bioware off for them to force this horrible task on us. 

Anyways, Mass Effect One was an epic masterpiece.  Mass Effect two story sucks so far but hey it shoots good, just like many other games out there.  Good shooter, no story, but at least you have a target to shoot.

I understand your situation, even though I dont have to struggle to play ME2, I still understand.

The thing is (in terms of the sarcastic replies) is that there is a culture here on the Bioware forums that if you do not just accept everything that is given to you without question, then you're a whiner. 

Honestly, you did bring up some interesting points such as the story being more dull in ME2 whereas the ME1 story was more "on the edge of your seat".

Hopefully Bioware has listened to use "whiners" and hopefully ME3 will be the definitive Mass Effect experience.

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

I'm sorry OP this is the best you can get appearntly these guys here 
think that Mass Audiance appeal is much more important then a good 
story.

Do you really want me to go into detail about how sick and tired I am of hearing this BS about ME2 being stupid and shallow? Because I'll write a damn essay about it.  ME2's overachring plot was lackluster, I'll admit, but give me enough time in front of a keyboard and I will gladly explain to you the parts where the writing kicked supreme ass.

For now, be satisfied with the beluga whale. It's cute.

Again, this is exactly what I'm talking about. What I do not get is, if a thread has been brought up many times or if a thread really annoys you....then why waste your time on it and reply? Obviously the thread was relevant enough for you to literally have you go out and find some snarky image and post it in this thread. Maybe I do not have a 5-year old comprehension, but what exactly is that supposed to accomplish? There are MANY threads here that I either do not like or just are irrelevant to me, so I just leave them to be and post in threads that I have some interest in.

Not that what I said is going to change anything but what can you expect?

Modifié par MajesticJazz, 14 février 2011 - 06:52 .

[Fixers0]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Do you really want me to go into detail about how sick and tired I am of hearing this BS about ME2 being stupid and shallow? Because I'll write a damn essay about it.  ME2's overachring plot was lackluster, I'll admit, but give me enough time in front of a keyboard and I will gladly explain to you the parts where the writing kicked supreme ass.

For now, be satisfied with the beluga whale. It's cute.

Please do i haven't read anything good in ages,

Stupid Internet memes

[AdmiralCheez]

@Fixers0: Right. Expect a new thread in the ME2 Campaign Forum by yours truly within the week.

Assuming homework doesn't kill me first.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 14 février 2011 - 06:51 .

[Fixers0]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

@Fixers0: Right. Expect a new thread in the ME2 Campaign Forum by yours truly within the week.

Thanks,

I  always wanted to ask someone to tell me what's so great about Mass effect 2 plot,

Maybey i will post a new thread about how the plot of the game could have been done better.

[AdmiralCheez]

@Fixers0: I'll probably cover the parts that sucked, too, since they bug me as well.  I'd be fooling myself if I said I never came close to ragequitting.

Then again, I had a lot of those moments in ME1 as well *coughBENEZIA'SDEATHSCENEcough*

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 14 février 2011 - 07:07 .

[marshalleck]

Don't force yourself to play the game. Do something else that you'll enjoy. There are plenty of people around who by now have had enough time with both games to realize they like one more than the other, and that it may be the first game they prefer. I feel the same--I occasionally try to start another class in ME2 and go through the game making different choices, but it's all so "blah." I quit and stop playing that new career after a handful of recruitment missions.

I'll play ME2 again when the last bridging DLC comes out. After that, it will be either more ME1 (unlikely since it just makes me feel more disappointed with ME2) or nothing until ME3.

Modifié par marshalleck, 14 février 2011 - 07:00 .

[Rune-Chan]

bobobo878 wrote...

Either play the game or don't. We really don't care if you think the game is worth your time.

Exactly.

Although I have played Mass Effect 1 more times than Mass Effect 2, I think they are both as good as each other.

I also don't expect anyone on here to give a damn either way.

MajesticJazz wrote...



The thing is (in terms of the sarcastic replies) is that there is a culture here on the Bioware forums that if you do not just accept everything that is given to you without question, then you're a whiner.

Not at all. It's just that pretty much every single complaint that is possible against the series has been done to death on these forums, there really is no need to make yet another "ME2 isn't as good as ME1" thread.

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 14 février 2011 - 07:08 .

[Thompson family]

Folks, it's a SEQUEL.



"Ooooh. ME1 was so wonderful and new and unexplored and full of surprises."



Well, it can't be all new twice, folks.



I'd like to know whether INTELLIGENT LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE survives. And if it does, HOW? If ME2 was a book, it would be a page turner.

[Rogue Unit]

I love when people claim games "have no story". Makes me wonder if they actually know what a story is.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Lots of people feel the way you do, OP, and I agree to some extent: the RPG elements, the main story arc, the "vastness", were all downgraded for ME2. Plenty of people here wouldn't agree, and just tell you that ME2 was an improvement in every possible way (some even think the subplots of the N7 missions were at least as good as the UNCs in ME1, which is just a weak insult to the first game).



I never had trouble getting into ME2 though. Well, sometimes I had difficulty getting myself pumped up for missions, but I think that was more because the transitions were less immersive and, owing to the story, my Shepard wasn't really leading the progression of events; he got his orders from TIM.



Anyway, ME2 is an amazing game despite where it went wrong in some places. I love it, just a little bit less than ME1, but they're both in my top 2 spots nonetheless. Seriously; LotSB is as good a reason as any to persevere here. It takes more effort to suspend disbelief, but the payoff is a wonderful experience.

[AdmiralCheez]

Machines Are Us wrote...
Although I have played Mass Effect 1 more times than Mass Effect 2, I think they are both as good as each other.

And I agree.  Okay, I like ME2 a little better, but there's a lot of stuff in ME1 that I'm in love with.

I also don't expect anyone on here to give a damn either way.

*raises hand* I kind of sort of give a damn.

Not at all. It's just that pretty much every single complaint that is possible against the series has been done to death on these forums, there really is no need to make yet another "ME2 isn't as good as ME1" thread.

THIS.  THISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHIS.

[Whatever42]

Completely disagree with you and can't see your point at all. But I hated Oblivion after loving Morrowind, which likely baffles others I'm sure. So I'll simply say sorry you didn't like it but please let it go and move on to a brighter future - do not troll the forums like some others, constantly inserting nasty comments into threads about how the game sucked.

[morrie23]

I enjoy ME2, well apart from the very beginning. the very end and the bits you have to do because TIM told you to (ie the core plot). If you can get through them, there's some good stuff in ME2 (primarily the loyalty missions). Also, LotSB and Overlord are very good, some of the best stuff from either game IMHO.

Modifié par morrie23, 14 février 2011 - 07:20 .

[Ramirez Wolfen]

@Dexi LOLZ Where did you find that?