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[Ryzaki]

Maelora wrote...
I've never said there aren't s/s options.
 
They have said there are s/s options, but haven't confirmed that these are playable companions. That leaves it open for DAOIsabela/Kelly Chambers/Iona/Dairren situations, I think.

It's certainly interesting they have refused to confirm the sexuality of the four romanceable characters, and I wonder why.

Okay, let's change tack a bit as you and I are simply not going to agree over this, and we should repsect that.

How would the s/s fans feel if the following hypothetical situation was real:

None of the companions were bi LIs, but you had a Dairren/Iona character, romanceable by anyone regardless of gender.  No kissing, no achievement, but you could flirt with them after every mission, a la Kelly Chambers.

Would that be disappointing? Cool? Better? I'm genuinely interested.

 

No. The s/s romance option is an actual romance option you know achievement included. And did you bother watching the live feed? Did you miss Izzy's blatant flirtation with FemHawke?  What you think the devs just put that there for the lulz? 

As for your hypothetical it was be lame because I couldn't stand Kelly's creepy self. 

David Gaider wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...
Like it or not nobody has actually confirmed male-male romances. Only that "all genders and orientations" will be catered too.

Wow, that's some paranoia right there. Consider male-male romance confirmed, then.

Saibh wrote...
You know, I think they're in a lose-lose-lose situation with the M/M LI:

Fenris:
WHAT? He's an ELF? What is up with that stereotype, BioWare? Do you
have a problem with human bi guys? Or is that too risque for you?

Anders:
WHAT? You picked the flirty man-whorish goof-ball? Clearly he's the
most flamboyant of the men, so OF COURSE you picked him! What a
stereotype!

Varric: WHAT? You picked another rogue? And a dwarf? Are the good-looking guys reserved for the women or something?

I really think the only one that wouldn't raise any ire is Sebastian, but he's DLC. Although, he's a rogue too.

You forgot

Sebastian: WHAT? You mean if we want to sleep with another man we have to PAY FOR IT?!

On second thought, maybe all romances should be DLC. Now there's a thought...

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 février 2011 - 07:21 .

[.shea.]

[quote]Maelora wrote...
Stating your opinion as fact is just misleading people, like the above posters. [/quote]
[/quote]

THIS is a fact: month or so ago, Mike Laidlaw said this in an interview with RPG France: "* Concerning the romances and love
interest, are all the followers subject to this if I take in account the
two genders of Hawke? 

Not every follower is interested romantically in Hawke, though there are options for players of all genders and  orientations." That is (at least to people who aren't trolls or complete morons) 100% confirmation that there are s/s-romanceable companions.

[mesmerizedish]

I'd go straight for David Gaider.

[Erode_The_Soul]

Maelora wrote...


Okay, let's change tack a bit as you and I are simply not going to agree over this, and we should repsect that.

How would the s/s fans feel if the following hypothetical situation was real:

None of the companions were bi LIs, but you had a Dairren/Iona character, romanceable by anyone regardless of gender.  No kissing, no achievement, but you could flirt with them after every mission, a la Kelly Chambers.

Would that be disappointing? Cool? Better? I'm genuinely interested.

I would find that to be an incredible disappointment. For one thing, after DAO, this would be a major step backward. For another thing, Bioware is capable of handling same sex romances within the context of the party. After having experienced both Leliana and Zevran as friends and lovers of both sexes, I would be pretty disappointed that Bioware went with (what I percieve to be) the easy way out.

[Maelora]

Okay, don't play.

But please don't say it's CONFIRMED when it's nothing of the sort.

You can say it's likely, or you hope it will be so, or that it's your best guess.  

But I've been burned by BW before, and I'm not buying it until it really is confirmed.

We'll just have to disagree on that.

[Silthir]

Erode_The_Soul wrote...

Maelora wrote...


Okay, let's change tack a bit as you and I are simply not going to agree over this, and we should repsect that.

How would the s/s fans feel if the following hypothetical situation was real:

None of the companions were bi LIs, but you had a Dairren/Iona character, romanceable by anyone regardless of gender.  No kissing, no achievement, but you could flirt with them after every mission, a la Kelly Chambers.

Would that be disappointing? Cool? Better? I'm genuinely interested.

I would find that to be an incredible disappointment. For one thing, after DAO, this would be a major step backward. For another thing, Bioware is capable of handling same sex romances within the context of the party. After having experienced both Leliana and Zevran as friends and lovers of both sexes, I would be pretty disappointed that Bioware went with (what I percieve to be) the easy way out.

Ditto.  I officially love you.

[Ryzaki]

Maelora wrote...

Okay, don't play.

But please don't say it's CONFIRMED when it's nothing of the sort.

You can say it's likely, or you hope it will be so, or that it's your best guess.  

But I've been burned by BW before, and I'm not buying it until it really is confirmed.

We'll just have to disagree on that.

 

*throws up hands and walks away shaking head* 

[Maelora]

Filament wrote...
Well I assume some here are being slightly facetious, but for the sake of clarity (and being a spoilsport), I think this post is what I'm going to stick with, as far as what has and has not been confirmed...

A poster asked Priestly politely what the deal was, and he outright refused to comment.

I'm very interested as to why, but we won't know until the game comes out. 

[Maugrim]

Maelora wrote...

Filament wrote...
Well I assume some here are being slightly facetious, but for the sake of clarity (and being a spoilsport), I think this post is what I'm going to stick with, as far as what has and has not been confirmed...

A poster asked Priestly politely what the deal was, and he outright refused to comment.

I'm very interested as to why, but we won't know until the game comes out. 

No your not it's been confirmed mulitple times, in multiple interviews/thread by multiple people.

You want to stir stuff up to get a reaction, nothing more.  Where oh I don't know read the previous posts FFS.

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 20 février 2011 - 07:30 .

[.shea.]

Filament wrote...

Well they have confirmed m/m and f/f romances though, and I think they may have also confirmed that there aren't extra-party romances, so if you're drawing a conclusion that there are no s/s party member romances just because he refused to comment, that's probably a bit of paranoia.

The quote by Mike Laidlaw (from the RPG France preview/interview) clearly states that there are romanceable companions for all genders and orientations, but I guess the lead designer of DA2 isn't a valid enough source for some.

[Maelora]

Erode_The_Soul wrote...
I would find that to be an incredible disappointment. For one thing, after DAO, this would be a major step backward. For another thing, Bioware is capable of handling same sex romances within the context of the party. After having experienced both Leliana and Zevran as friends and lovers of both sexes, I would be pretty disappointed that Bioware went with (what I percieve to be) the easy way out.

Precisely.  And eloquently put.

But they did exactly this in Mass Effect.

Yes, it's possible to argue DA is a different animal, and you may be right.

But Bioware have 'previous'.  Casey Hudson went out of his way to tell us that not only was here was no s/s in ME2, now there wasn't any in ME1 either.  That's the equivalent of saying the Leliana/Zevran were only 'rumoured' to be bi in DAO and now we're getting the 'true' story.

Bioware already did this with Anders - he could die in Awakening, but David Gaider admitted they just handwaved this for DA2.

Now, even I'm not paranoid enough to beleive that they will retcon Zevra and Leli in DA2. But Bioware likes to change things, so I'm not going to accept s/s is in until it's actually confirmed, and that will now be when the game comes out.

Modifié par Maelora, 20 février 2011 - 07:34 .

[mesmerizedish]

I'm curious as to why people are completely ignoring a review of the full game that states unambiguously that the romances are open to either gender. I mean I'm not even hearing "That review is wrong." They're just pretending it doesn't exist at all.

Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 20 février 2011 - 07:34 .

[Maugrim]

In a way it's heartening to know we can have pro-gay trolls now. Yay equality!

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 20 février 2011 - 07:38 .

[Maelora]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I'm curious as to why people are completely ignoring a review of the full game he states unambiguously that the romances are open to either gender. I mean I'm not even hearing "That review is wrong." They're just pretending it doesn't exist at all.

Did that review 100% confirm the achievement and everything?

[wulfsturm]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I'm curious as to why people are completely ignoring a review of the full game that states unambiguously that the romances are open to either gender. I mean I'm not even hearing "That review is wrong." They're just pretending it doesn't exist at all.

What review states that?

[Silthir]

Maelora wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I'm curious as to why people are completely ignoring a review of the full game he states unambiguously that the romances are open to either gender. I mean I'm not even hearing "That review is wrong." They're just pretending it doesn't exist at all.

Did that review 100% confirm the achievement and everything?

Even if it doesn't and it's not a romance achievement doesn't mean it's not a romance.  You people have gotten so dependent on your damn achievements that if something's not an achievement then that obviously means the game is out of wack and the romance doesn't exist.

[mesmerizedish]

Maelora wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I'm curious as to why people are completely ignoring a review of the full game he states unambiguously that the romances are open to either gender. I mean I'm not even hearing "That review is wrong." They're just pretending it doesn't exist at all.

Did that review 100% confirm the achievement and everything?

It didn't say anything at all about the achievement. It said that you can romance almost anyone in your party (4/6), and that those romances are "unconstrained." you can romance men, women, and people possessed by a spirit of vengeance. I'm not sure how it can be any more unambiguous. I'm not saying that that review is written by the devs and that it equals dev confirmation. What I'm saying is that in context, I can't imagine actual dev confirmation could be any more clear.

[Maugrim]

Silthir wrote...

Maelora wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I'm curious as to why people are completely ignoring a review of the full game he states unambiguously that the romances are open to either gender. I mean I'm not even hearing "That review is wrong." They're just pretending it doesn't exist at all.

Did that review 100% confirm the achievement and everything?

Even if it doesn't and it's not a romance achievement doesn't mean it's not a romance.  You people have gotten so dependent on your damn achievements that if something's not an achievement then that obviously means the game is out of wack and the romance doesn't exist.

Actually there is only one achievements for romances.  You have to romance the human opposite gender companion, get married in the chantry and have 14 babies toghther to get it!  It's hasn't been confirmed so I can't be proven wrong...

Actually yes there is only one, for completing any one romance with any char.

[Phate Phoenix]

Maelora wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I'm curious as to why people are completely ignoring a review of the full game he states unambiguously that the romances are open to either gender. I mean I'm not even hearing "That review is wrong." They're just pretending it doesn't exist at all.

Did that review 100% confirm the achievement and everything?

 You're just pullin' our legs now, right? You can't honestly believe...

.... Oh. Oh dear.

Then, in that case, no. The review did not state that any romance unlocked the achievement. They also didn't specifically say that you could change Hawke's hair color or that shoes existed.

[wulfsturm]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

It didn't say anything at all about the achievement. It said that you can romance almost anyone in your party (4/6), and that those romances are "unconstrained." you can romance men, women, and people possessed by a spirit of vengeance. I'm not sure how it can be any more unambiguous. I'm not saying that that review is written by the devs and that it equals dev confirmation. What I'm saying is that in context, I can't imagine actual dev confirmation could be any more clear.

How would the reviewer KNOW if the romances were "unconstrained" though? He would have had to do up to eight (8) seperate play-throughs to come to that conclusion. Do you really think that his magazine would have alloted him that much time for his review? Especially when each play-through aparently clocks in somehwere around 50 hours of playtime, that's 400 hours!

Or more likely, he was blowing hot air.

Modifié par wulfsturm, 20 février 2011 - 07:44 .

[Silthir]

wulfsturm wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

It didn't say anything at all about the achievement. It said that you can romance almost anyone in your party (4/6), and that those romances are "unconstrained." you can romance men, women, and people possessed by a spirit of vengeance. I'm not sure how it can be any more unambiguous. I'm not saying that that review is written by the devs and that it equals dev confirmation. What I'm saying is that in context, I can't imagine actual dev confirmation could be any more clear.

How would the reviewer KNOW if the romances were "unconstrained" though? He would have had to do up to eight (8) seperate play-throughs to come to that conclusion. Do you really think that his magazine would have alloted him that much time for his review? Especially when each play-through aparently clocks in somehwere around 50 hours of playtime, that's 400 hours!

Or more likely, he was blowing hot air.

Or maybe... he cut off romances short to romance other characters.  Ever think of that, genius boy?