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[wulfsturm]

Silthir wrote...

Or maybe... he cut off romances short to romance other characters.  Ever think of that, genius boy?

No, because that's almost as idiotic as a 130 page romance thread about characters in a video game.

[Maugrim]

wulfsturm wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

It didn't say anything at all about the achievement. It said that you can romance almost anyone in your party (4/6), and that those romances are "unconstrained." you can romance men, women, and people possessed by a spirit of vengeance. I'm not sure how it can be any more unambiguous. I'm not saying that that review is written by the devs and that it equals dev confirmation. What I'm saying is that in context, I can't imagine actual dev confirmation could be any more clear.

How would the reviewer KNOW if the romances were "unconstrained" though? He would have had to do up to eight (8) seperate play-throughs to come to that conclusion. Do you really think that his magazine would have alloted him that much time for his review? Especially when each play-through aparently clocks in somehwere around 50 hours of playtime, that's 400 hours!

Or more likely, he was blowing hot air.

*Introduces wulfstrum to the mystical Quicksave and Quickload keys*

But seriously  I think lots of reviews make save before certain points to see multiple results.  Not that there aren't issues with the review but it is an interesting set of data.

[Silthir]

wulfsturm wrote...

Silthir wrote...

Or maybe... he cut off romances short to romance other characters.  Ever think of that, genius boy?

No, because that's almost as idiotic as a 130 page romance thread about characters in a video game.

Oh, then I guess people who want achievements for romances are idiotic too huh?  Cuz I've cut off romances after bedding just to get the achievements... so it's not nearly as idiotic as you think.

[Ryzaki]

Not only that but its fun to romance someone break up with them and see their reaction before reloading so that's not what you really did.

[wulfsturm]

You may or may not know this, but game reviewing is a job these people don't review the games they are given for fun unfortunately.

Modifié par wulfsturm, 20 février 2011 - 07:52 .

[Maugrim]

And reviewing multiple paths (as many as reasonable) in a RPG based on choices would be doing that job excellently no?

[Ryzaki]

wulfsturm wrote...

You may or may not know this, but game reviewing is a job these people don't review the games they are given for fun unfortunately.

You may not know this but some people *gasps* like their jobs!!! 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 février 2011 - 07:56 .

[Silthir]

wulfsturm wrote...

You may or may not know this, but game reviewing is a job these people don't review the games they are given for fun unfortunately.

But they're paid to find out EVERYTHING they can before they write a review, smartass.

[Trophonius]

wulfsturm wrote...

How would the reviewer KNOW if the romances were "unconstrained" though? He would have had to do up to eight (8) seperate play-throughs to come to that conclusion. Do you really think that his magazine would have alloted him that much time for his review? Especially when each play-through aparently clocks in somehwere around 50 hours of playtime, that's 400 hours!

Or more likely, he was blowing hot air.

It happened in DA:O when certain party members would start assuming you were lying/cheating on them even when you didn't start any romance to begin with. That's probably how the reviewer knew.

[Maugrim]

Why do all the people who claim to hate romance threads spend so much time in them? It's ok be out about your love for romance, be proud!

[wulfsturm]

makenzieshepard wrote...

And reviewing multiple paths (as many as reasonable) in a RPG based on choices would be doing that job excellently no?

Excellency is always tempered with expediancy.

I think you may be giving this reviewer a bit to much praise for an ambiguous choice of words.

[Ryzaki]

I wish the game guide would hurry up and get leaked.

It was hilarious how fast the forumites found the DAO guide. I think it leaked a good few weeks before the game came out. 

Granted the only thing we got where the companions (where we got a nice Loghain spoiler). 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 février 2011 - 07:58 .

[Maugrim]

wulfsturm wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

And reviewing multiple paths (as many as reasonable) in a RPG based on choices would be doing that job excellently no?

Excellency is always tempered with expediancy.

I think you may be giving this reviewer a bit to much praise for an ambiguous choice of words.

Actually I stated there were problems with it but that data was more supportive than not when coupled with other, factual confirmations.  Not a sure thing but an interesting data set.

But subtleties are for sissyie amirite?

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 20 février 2011 - 07:58 .

[mesmerizedish]

Filament wrote...

I wouldn't say the reviewer is wrong (necessarily), but I think you're running a little too far with the word "unconstrained." It could just as well mean unconstrained in the totality of the game, i.e. you can romance some characters with males and some characters with females, add them all together and that's everyone in the game you can romance.

But that's not what unconstrained means. Here's a character, there are no constraints regarding my ability to romance her. I agree that the reviewer could just be using the wir wrong, but I don't think I'm too far out left-field to take it at face value.

[Maugrim]

Ryzaki wrote...

I wish the game guide would hurry up and get leaked.

It was hilarious how fast the forumites found the DAO guide. I think it leaked a good few weeks before the game came out. 

On the one hand yes it'd be awesome for everyone who wants to know to to find out their options.  On the other hand the forums will just end up becoming a minefield of spoilers.

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 20 février 2011 - 07:59 .

[wulfsturm]

makenzieshepard wrote...

Actually I stated there were problems with it but that data was more supportive than not when coupled with other, factual confirmations.  Not a sure thing but an interesting data set.

But subtleties are for sissyie amirite?

I'm assuming that's some sort of blue-water fish?

[Silthir]

makenzieshepard wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

And reviewing multiple paths (as many as reasonable) in a RPG based on choices would be doing that job excellently no?

Excellency is always tempered with expediancy.

I think you may be giving this reviewer a bit to much praise for an ambiguous choice of words.

Actually I stated there were problems with it but that data was more supportive than not when coupled with other, factual confirmations.  Not a sure thing but an interesting data set.

But subtleties are for sissyie amirite?

No you can't be right, because any confirmation will just send people off the deep end and get them furious to the point at which they deny everything that has been said about the game.

[Maugrim]

wulfsturm wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Actually I stated there were problems with it but that data was more supportive than not when coupled with other, factual confirmations.  Not a sure thing but an interesting data set.

But subtleties are for sissyie amirite?

I'm assuming that's some sort of blue-water fish?

You have no idea how hard it is to type with fins!

[moilami]

Wirbelwind_94 wrote...

Well, the DA 2 romances sure look like they can make people passionate around here...
I'm not sure the writers are glad their stories lead to such behaviours amongst their fans.

The thing is consumers are for money and not to please developers/writers. That is how it is, and that is how it should be.

[mesmerizedish]

Filament wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

But that's not what unconstrained means. Here's a character, there are no constraints regarding my ability to romance her. I agree that the reviewer could just be using the wir wrong, but I don't think I'm too far out left-field to take it at face value.

That's what it could mean, if they're talking unconstrained in terms of the game itself rather than unconstrained in terms of each specific character, though. I think it's open to interpretation, given the lack of absolute clarity, quality of the writing in general, and lack of dev confirmation...

*shrug* Sure, I guess. I still think that that would be an incorrect usage of "unconstrained," but I'm not going to try and defend that writer's ability to use words properly This thread is turning into a minefield of head'splodiness (through no fault of yours, of course, you're awesome), so I think I have to leave for a while XD

[moilami]

Maelora wrote...

Wirbelwind_94 wrote...
Well, the DA 2 romances sure look like they can make people passionate around here...
I'm not sure the writers are glad their stories lead to such behaviours amongst their fans.

It would have been easy to confirm it, one way or the other.  But they chose not to. One wonders why.

One reason can be that they after all can be like "hard daddy"* who does not spoil his kids by doing whatever the kids want. If you don't know who you can romance and how, you will have much more interesting and "authentic" gameplay experience. So by not telling you who are on for gay romance they are doing a service to you. Like a daddy who does not tell kids in advance what birthday present they are going to get. This service though BioWare is doing is better since not only preserve the surprise but also the exploration who the romances are.


* Edit: Lol could had used words "evil daddy" too.

Modifié par moilami, 20 février 2011 - 08:18 .

[Osena109]

 I don't understand way people are geting so hot under the collar why dos it matter its game why is it so important for most people that there has to be S/S romance form my stand point dos not matter  but agin i am straight

[wulfsturm]

Osena109 wrote...

 I don't understand way people are geting so hot under the collar why dos it matter its game why is it so important for most people that there has to be S/S romance form my stand point dos not matter  but agin i am straight

How would you feel if a game you really liked only had same-sex relationships?