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catabuca wrote...
This isn't the place to get into a debate over what asexuality is or isn't. Seriously, it only leads to bannings and/or thread closure. You should take it to PM for the good of everyone else who would like the thread to stay alive.
(not trying to be forum police, honestly, just don't want to see the thread derailed - we're a happy place)
Trophonius wrote...
I wouldn't say Sebastian is asexual himself. Just celibate, which is understandable given that he's a priest. I interpreted the ending of his short story to mean that he transiently questions his faith because of his intimate desires, but that he ultimately chose to stay in the chantry to fulfill his priestly duties, willingly. He is, however, someone that I would consider an option for asexual people who simply don't want to engage in sexual relationships.
1 more mention of outside sexuality and i debate.Phate Phoenix wrote...
Trophonius wrote...
I wouldn't say Sebastian is asexual himself. Just celibate, which is understandable given that he's a priest. I interpreted the ending of his short story to mean that he transiently questions his faith because of his intimate desires, but that he ultimately chose to stay in the chantry to fulfill his priestly duties, willingly. He is, however, someone that I would consider an option for asexual people who simply don't want to engage in sexual relationships.
This is very true, and the distinction should be made. (Trust me, most asexuals won't call a celibate person asexual, simply because we're trying to separate ourselves from that.) However, for an asexual Hawke, Sebastian is perfect.
My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...
1 more mention of outside sexuality and i debate.Phate Phoenix wrote...
Trophonius wrote...
I wouldn't say Sebastian is asexual himself. Just celibate, which is understandable given that he's a priest. I interpreted the ending of his short story to mean that he transiently questions his faith because of his intimate desires, but that he ultimately chose to stay in the chantry to fulfill his priestly duties, willingly. He is, however, someone that I would consider an option for asexual people who simply don't want to engage in sexual relationships.
This is very true, and the distinction should be made. (Trust me, most asexuals won't call a celibate person asexual, simply because we're trying to separate ourselves from that.) However, for an asexual Hawke, Sebastian is perfect.
Modifié par Russalka, 03 mars 2011 - 11:26 .
Catabuca cares.makenzieshepard wrote...
My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...
1 more mention of outside sexuality and i debate.Phate Phoenix wrote...
Trophonius wrote...
I wouldn't say Sebastian is asexual himself. Just celibate, which is understandable given that he's a priest. I interpreted the ending of his short story to mean that he transiently questions his faith because of his intimate desires, but that he ultimately chose to stay in the chantry to fulfill his priestly duties, willingly. He is, however, someone that I would consider an option for asexual people who simply don't want to engage in sexual relationships.
This is very true, and the distinction should be made. (Trust me, most asexuals won't call a celibate person asexual, simply because we're trying to separate ourselves from that.) However, for an asexual Hawke, Sebastian is perfect.
Russalka wrote...
The chastity is especially odd if Hawke is allowed to sponsor Sebastian back to power. He needs someone to give an heir or at the very least a scruffy concubine!
That cat is so cute!makenzieshepard wrote...
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HERE WE GOMikka-chan wrote...
Denying someone else's sexuality is a horrible thing to do. There isn't any difference between telling an asexual person they can't really be asexual because they have 'hormones' or telling a lesbian that she doesn't really like girls, she just hasn't found the right guy yet. Or telling a transexual that despite how their brain and body works, they really aren't the gender they feel themselves to be, because it's wrong or weird.
Is that really the hill you want to stand on? That my sexuality doesn't really exist, despite having never felt aroused, feeling no desire to have sex (or even kiss, for that matter, although I find hugs somewhat comforting), and being able to stare at naked attractive bodies of both genders without feeling anything besides, occasionally, uncomfortable?
I think that's apretty ignorant hill to stand on. There are quite a few studies on asexuality: hell, wikipedia has names of what, twenty some? Where are these studies that 'prove' their is no asexuality (preferably having been done in, say, the last twenty or so years by a University or group that isn't crazy)?
This debate is useless without some actual sources backing up the claims made. Also, as has been observed by others, this is hardly the place for such an exchange.My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...
HERE WE GOMikka-chan wrote...
Denying someone else's sexuality is a horrible thing to do. There isn't any difference between telling an asexual person they can't really be asexual because they have 'hormones' or telling a lesbian that she doesn't really like girls, she just hasn't found the right guy yet. Or telling a transexual that despite how their brain and body works, they really aren't the gender they feel themselves to be, because it's wrong or weird.
Is that really the hill you want to stand on? That my sexuality doesn't really exist, despite having never felt aroused, feeling no desire to have sex (or even kiss, for that matter, although I find hugs somewhat comforting), and being able to stare at naked attractive bodies of both genders without feeling anything besides, occasionally, uncomfortable?
I think that's apretty ignorant hill to stand on. There are quite a few studies on asexuality: hell, wikipedia has names of what, twenty some? Where are these studies that 'prove' their is no asexuality (preferably having been done in, say, the last twenty or so years by a University or group that isn't crazy)?
There is a huge difference between Asexuality and gay/Transexuality as it was originally used to describe asexual reproduction and was later adapted to describe people who apparently have no Hormones. It's without hormone which both gays and Transexuals still have. Completley diffrent subject matter.
And your history in sexuality is just some random story on the internet to me. Wikipedia on the otherhand has sources that can be dictated as opinion and for every study thats says sexuality is real there is one that says it isn't. If it is a sexual orrientation it is extremley rare and not normal in humans and likley a genetic mutation/disorder or chemical imbalance in the brain. It is not an sexual Orientation because it would actually be the lack of Sexual Orientation.
Humans are natrually Sexual beings, Asexuality is not normally part of our programming. There's nothing wrong with thinking your Asexual or being Asexual. It's just not a Orientation. It's something in a whole different category.
Anders seems the most likely if there are only two bisexual options.koshiee wrote...
back to important information.
Who are the bi characters? Isabella ......????????
What's the current popular theory?
lilliful wrote...
Anders seems the most likely if there are only two bisexual options.koshiee wrote...
back to important information.
Who are the bi characters? Isabella ......????????
What's the current popular theory?
lilliful wrote...
Anders seems the most likely if there are only two bisexual options.koshiee wrote...
back to important information.
Who are the bi characters? Isabella ......????????
What's the current popular theory?
nelly21 wrote...
lilliful wrote...
Anders seems the most likely if there are only two bisexual options.koshiee wrote...
back to important information.
Who are the bi characters? Isabella ......????????
What's the current popular theory?
Making Anders bisexual would be stupid since he's a ladies' man in Awakening. My money is on Fenris.
Modifié par Ryzaki, 04 mars 2011 - 12:49 .
nelly21 wrote...
lilliful wrote...
Anders seems the most likely if there are only two bisexual options.koshiee wrote...
back to important information.
Who are the bi characters? Isabella ......????????
What's the current popular theory?
Making Anders bisexual would be stupid since he's a ladies' man in Awakening. My money is on Fenris.
Modifié par Taleroth, 04 mars 2011 - 12:50 .
Taleroth wrote...
My bet is on whatever causes Ms. Ryzaki the most distress.
Modifié par Ryzaki, 04 mars 2011 - 01:04 .
Taleroth wrote...
My bet is on whatever causes Ms. Ryzaki the most distress.
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