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[MorningBird]

Ryzaki wrote...
lies. 

You just wanted me to have this banner! I demand evidence! 
EVIDENCE! 

Pffft, my banners are hawt, kthanx.

Though, if you really want to see it, you may just want to PM Klace. =)

[LadyWillow]

catabuca wrote...

LadyWillow wrote...

Is it unprofessional of me to jump into the air, while at work, shouting " I CAN FINALLY HAVE ANDERS!"

Yea, needless to say, I'm having Anders first ^.^

Only if you're a judge presiding over a case, or a surgeon performing heart surgery. I reckon in every other profession it's perfectly acceptable.

Awesome! cause i was looked at like:blink: for the longest time.

But hey it was fun ^.^

[Hagbard23]

I am so glad those livestreams of the game were taken down, it took all of my willpower not to spoil the game for myself

I have to keep telling myself it will be worth it if the whole game is fresh when I play it, but I can't wait three more days

*shuts self in freezer*

[Addai]

I see it's pretty much confirmed they're all bi.  Congrats to those who care about such things.

I'll wait to see how it's implemented, but what I've heard so far makes all the romances seem pretty fanservicey.  I hope not, but the fact that all the flirt lines are pretty 70s disco is not encouraging.

Athro wrote...

But of course, this is what I've been saying all along. I'm not in favour of the "all bi" route - but I am in favour of all romanceable characters being available to all PCs.

The difference here is that you're not understanding what I've been saying about how this can be done without all the characters being bi. Further to this, I have argued that it can be done while still keeping strong characterisation.

It seems to me that there is still this strange notion that if, using the example, Merrill is gay in one story and straight in another - she must be bi.

Or that by giving the ability to have the characters be available to all PCs makes them all bi.

I think you have misread my statements as either being "all bi" or "no character."

But I explicitly pointed out the difference between in game story and how the game's meta elements are working.

So, in the story when you hit on Merill as femHawke, the game's coding takes the gay storyline route and she not only becomes gay she has historically always been gay in that storyline. The same goes for the straight storyline.

The thing is to distinguish a difference between the character in the story and the character as a piece of code in the game software.

The character is what the character is.  They're all bisexual- all capable of attraction to both genders- and it doesn't matter if the subject never comes up in dialogue, that's apparently how they're written so that's who the characters are.  Otherwise there is no "Merill" or "Anders" as a character that exists in the story before you encounter them.  It's not that I don't understand the concept you're putting forth, it's just one that I find esoteric and ultimately unnecessary.  If that's how the writers wanted to write them, then so be it.  I'm sure they have their reasons.

[Taura-Tierno]

Athro wrote...

But of course, this is what I've been saying all along. I'm not in favour of the "all bi" route - but I am in favour of all romanceable characters being available to all PCs.

The difference here is that you're not understanding what I've been saying about how this can be done without all the characters being bi. Further to this, I have argued that it can be done while still keeping strong characterisation.

It seems to me that there is still this strange notion that if, using the example, Merrill is gay in one story and straight in another - she must be bi.

Or that by giving the ability to have the characters be available to all PCs makes them all bi.

I think you have misread my statements as either being "all bi" or "no character."

But I explicitly pointed out the difference between in game story and how the game's meta elements are working.

So, in the story when you hit on Merill as femHawke, the game's coding takes the gay storyline route and she not only becomes gay she has historically always been gay in that storyline. The same goes for the straight storyline.

The thing is to distinguish a difference between the character in the story and the character as a piece of code in the game software.

I think that sounds like an awesome concept.

[Space Toaster]

Sua Sponte wrote...
Why can't the characters have unique orientations?

Because that's unbalanced?
Two love interests for heterosexuals and one for homosexuals (per gender).
They're never going to have a strictly gay love interest.

Bioware decided to cater to the minority a bit more this time.

Modifié par Space Toaster, 05 mars 2011 - 01:53 .

[Dr. wonderful]

Space Toaster wrote...

Sua Sponte wrote...
Why can't the characters have unique orientations?

Because that's unbalanced?
Two love interests for heterosexuals and one for homosexuals.
They're never going to have a strictly gay love interest.

Bioware decided to cater to the minority a bit more this time.

 The alien bread warmer got a point.

Another experiment.

[OrganizedChaos826]

Edit: I think I was misinformed about something. Feel free to ignore this please.

Modifié par OrganizedChaos826, 05 mars 2011 - 01:52 .

[scootermcgaffin]

Why is it unrealistic? Has science shown that if you get nine people together only two of them can be non-heterosexual?

[draken-heart]

 im kinda ok with it, just a different way of writing romance.

and if anyone starts doing merill/Fem!Hawke romance fics, try putting it so they start off having dreams about each other before they meet, without recognizing who they are from the dreams on sight.*

(* i just hope this is not taken seriously)

Modifié par draken-heart, 05 mars 2011 - 04:02 .

[scootermcgaffin]

So it's unlikely, which is a completely different thing.

[werewoof]

Sua Sponte wrote..

Why can't the characters have unique orientations?

Because it's not a very good choice economics-wise. Gaider specifically mentioned that having an only gay character would just not be a good use of resources, sadly, and that this is what we'll have to deal with.

Personally I'm glad that they're all bi, because I was afraid I'd be stuck with Fenris as my only option and the more I learn about him, the less I like him. Anders for me, please.

[bunny-gypsy]

Oh, my gosh! If that's true....AUFGESTOCKT FTW!

Wow, I was seriously not expecting that from Bioware, my goodness. Still can't believe it. *is speechless*

[ArawnNox]

Sua Sponte wrote...
Juhani was lesbian exclusive. Of course that was more of an easter egg than a romance. =/

Wait, what? She was?
Man, am I late to the party on that one... and I can't get KotoR1 to run on my system for more than 5 minutes, now.

[Merilsell]

Addai67 wrote...

I see it's pretty much confirmed they're all bi.  Congrats to those who care about such things.

I'll wait to see how it's implemented, but what I've heard so far makes all the romances seem pretty fanservicey.  I hope not, but the fact that all the flirt lines are pretty 70s disco is not encouraging.

And this fact let me facepalm so hard, that the sound of the slap is to hear in the next city.

I mean hurray for the people waited for that but I personally find that very WTF. I mean even if it is just a game, I find it hard to believe and unrealistic that every romancable character has the hots for Hawke, independent from the players gender. Okay maybe believe is the wrong word...immersion-breaking is more fitting here, I think.

However as Addai said, good for the people care about those things, I rather would have a good mix of straight and bi, because the romances would be more believable for me this way... instead of the Dating-sim-ish "All bi" route.

Seriously.

[Space Toaster]

Sua Sponte wrote...
As for me: after finding this out, I'll be rolling a single Hawke despite the fact that I usually enjoy the quality of romance subplots in Bio games.

Why?

[falconlord5]

To everyone who is still griping about the all-Bi angle: I play the world's smallest violin.

And I laugh, very, very hard.

[mesmerizedish]

MorningBird wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
lies. 

You just wanted me to have this banner! I demand evidence! 
EVIDENCE! 

Pffft, my banners are hawt, kthanx.

Though, if you really want to see it, you may just want to PM Klace. =)

Your banners are so hawt, yo.