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[Minxie]

Athro wrote...

The point about Anders possibly being bi is because the story makes a lot about him being considered different, an abomination, needing to change things so that he can be himself without fear... that is all easily read as subtext for being bi/gay.

It's not the Justice/Vengeance thing - it's his motivations for teaming up with Justice.

It's not a 100% case for being gay/bi - it's just a very compelling reason because his backstory would match with the option.

I hadn't even considered this before. I love it. <3

[prazision]

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

If you think oblivion is oversexualized you need to go outside.

A) Ad hominem attack.

 I don't play bad games (I never actually played the Witcher either, but I know what occurs in it)

C) I am referring to the Fantasy genre, not just "Western Fantasy RPGs" because, as you point out, those don't really exist anymore.  But Western Fantasy RPGs are a subset of the Fantasy genre.

[mesmerizedish]

prazision wrote...

Shavon wrote...

Yup.  Definitely a dude.  You don't know anything about cup size, so stop trying.

...

Also, how can you miss the point so hilariously?  I'm not obsessed with breasts, I'm annoyed that some video game creators apparently ARE, because it demeans the medium and gives fodder to those who wish to imply that video games are a lesser form of entertainment.

Dude. You ARE obsessed with breasts. Try and justify it however you like, but (of course, based solely on these posts of yours... you could be totally different in real life) you have an extreme case of breast fetishism. You're so hung up on them, I just... I just don't get it. Truly. You are baffling.

[Ryzaki]

claymation wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...


True but he also had Taliesan as a lover. So yeah it was pretty obvious even without romancing him with a male warden that he played for both teams. 

ah, wouldn't say that. because the relationship between these two isn't nearly as clear as many people believe now, after months of repeated playthroughs and discussion. and many people just got that vibe after reading some heated arguments about it^^ when you're playing a dude and not romancing him you'd propably not draw that conclusion.

Really? I played a male character who wasn't romancing him and I got that feeling. Then again I'm a yaoi fangirl but his tone the way he spoke, the sad look he gave Taliesan. Though then again I am a yaoi fangirl. So...

Modifié par Ryzaki, 16 février 2011 - 12:55 .

[mesmerizedish]

Ryzaki wrote...

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Really? I played a male character who wasn't romancing him and I got that feeling. Then again I'm a yaoi fangirl but his tone the way he spoke, the sad look he gave Taliesan. Everything screamed more than just friends. 

/agree There was a LOT of subtext there. I never questioned my assumption about them.

[lilliful]

Ryzaki wrote...

pixieface wrote...

Maybe I'm just crazy, but I always assumed that whenever Zevran "hit on" a companion, he was just toying. He wanted to make them squirm. He was very confident in his sex appeal while the Fereldens of the group were far more conservative, comparatively. Provoking them was funny - like he did with Wynne's magical bosom.
I mean, the guy was very sensual but he wasn't some soulless boning machine. His arc was both sad and very well constructed.

True but he also had Taliesan as a lover. So yeah it was pretty obvious even without romancing him with a male warden that he played for both teams. 

Woah woah, I totally missed that. I think you have to be in a romance or high approval (both?) with Zevran for him to say that line, because I had like maybe 75% approval when that confrontation happened and never got to see that line ;_;

EDIT: For the curious, I looked it up on Dragon Age wiki and apparently when Taliesan confronts Zevran, Zevran will decline to fight and say that it makes him sad because they were "friends once, and more." Tooooooootally didn't get that line when this happened to me.

Modifié par lilliful, 16 février 2011 - 12:58 .

[HolyJellyfish]

Because I am so tired of this tearing characters down by their appearances debate

Why? Why do it? Maybe we should take videogames less seriously and just enjoy them for the fun that they are? It isn't meant to represent reality. Its suppose to be fun.

Modifié par HolyJellyfish, 16 février 2011 - 01:00 .

[mesmerizedish]

prazision wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

If you think oblivion is oversexualized you need to go outside.

A) Ad hominem attack.

 I don't play bad games (I never actually played the Witcher either, but I know what occurs in it)

C) I am referring to the Fantasy genre, not just "Western Fantasy RPGs" because, as you point out, those don't really exist anymore.  But Western Fantasy RPGs are a subset of the Fantasy genre.

A) That wasn't an ad hominem attack. He could have phrased himself better, but what he said was "Oblivion is not oversexualized. This aspect of your argument is faulty."

THAT'S an ad hominem attack.

C) You're the one who said western RPGs *shrug* And anyway, what does it matter what whether it's fantasy games or fantasy RPGs? It seems like you just didn't want to end on a .

Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 16 février 2011 - 01:10 .

[John Epler]

As much as I love feeling like Bill Murray, forced to endure the same debate time and time again, this has been argued to death and at this point, is mostly a breeding ground for vitriol and ad hominem.



So let's pull this off the current topic of breast sizes and return to discussing the romances. Yes, there's overlap between the two topics, but this has gone far beyond that point.

[Ninja Mage]

JohnEpler wrote...

As much as I love feeling like Bill Murray, forced to endure the same debate time and time again, this has been argued to death and at this point, is mostly a breeding ground for vitriol and ad hominem.

So let's pull this off the current topic of breast sizes and return to discussing the romances. Yes, there's overlap between the two topics, but this has gone far beyond that point.

BUT WHO IS BI?

[prazision]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Because I am so tired of this tearing characters down by their appearances debate

Why? Why do it? Maybe we should take videogames less seriously and just enjoy them for the fun that they are? It isn't meant to represent reality. Its suppose to be fun.

Some of us would like video games to be a serious medium, like games such as Heavy Rain and the upcoming LA Noire.

If you want to flip out and be a badass with a sword, why not just play Devil May Cry or God of War?  Games with narratives (like RPGs) should be at least trying to be quality (like New Vegas).

[Ninja Mage]

New Vegas was a mess. The romances sucked and the game was too buggy

[KBomb]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Because I am so tired of this tearing characters down by their appearances debate

Why? Why do it? Maybe we should take videogames less seriously and just enjoy them for the fun that they are? It isn't meant to represent reality. Its suppose to be fun.

A simple statement, an amazing post.

[Minxie]

Ninja Mage wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...

As much as I love feeling like Bill Murray, forced to endure the same debate time and time again, this has been argued to death and at this point, is mostly a breeding ground for vitriol and ad hominem.

So let's pull this off the current topic of breast sizes and return to discussing the romances. Yes, there's overlap between the two topics, but this has gone far beyond that point.

BUT WHO IS BI?

Yes, won't you tell us, Ser? :innocent:

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

prazision wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

If you think oblivion is oversexualized you need to go outside.

A) Ad hominem attack.

 I don't play bad games (I never actually played the Witcher either, but I know what occurs in it)

C) I am referring to the Fantasy genre, not just "Western Fantasy RPGs" because, as you point out, those don't really exist anymore.  But Western Fantasy RPGs are a subset of the Fantasy genre.

SO MUCH FACEPALM

[mesmerizedish]

claymation wrote...

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@you two^^
i know it's a widely held opinion, but i feel it's kinda meta, since i really often encountered it in, well, fangirls:lol:
i always assumed a (straight) pc would probably see it less romantic, more in a ... dunno... way^^

I'm definitely not a Zevran fangirl. My PC wasn't straight, but she was a woman, so she wasn't interested in Zaevran No, it's just... well, it's Zevran. It wasn't meta, I had just gotten to know him, and it seems like Taliesan was someone that Zevran had once cared for deeply. No pun intended.

[Dr. wonderful]

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

prazision wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

If you think oblivion is oversexualized you need to go outside.

A) Ad hominem attack.

 I don't play bad games (I never actually played the Witcher either, but I know what occurs in it)

C) I am referring to the Fantasy genre, not just "Western Fantasy RPGs" because, as you point out, those don't really exist anymore.  But Western Fantasy RPGs are a subset of the Fantasy genre.

SO MUCH FACEPALM

Why can't people just shut up and talk about the Romance?

[Ryzaki]

...I just want someone to tell us who the male bi option is already.

[Ninja Mage]

John Epler- You want to know who is Bi? Fine! It's the day after Valentine's so I'll tell YOU!



It's Isabela, and ANDERS!!!!!!!



Me- SWOOON

[Curlain]

Dr. wonderful wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

prazision wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

If you think oblivion is oversexualized you need to go outside.

A) Ad hominem attack.

 I don't play bad games (I never actually played the Witcher either, but I know what occurs in it)

C) I am referring to the Fantasy genre, not just "Western Fantasy RPGs" because, as you point out, those don't really exist anymore.  But Western Fantasy RPGs are a subset of the Fantasy genre.

SO MUCH FACEPALM

Why can't people just shut up and talk about the Romance?

www.youtube.com/watch 

To get us back in the romance grove 

Modifié par Curlain, 16 février 2011 - 01:08 .

[Dr. wonderful]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Because I am so tired of this tearing characters down by their appearances debate

Why? Why do it? Maybe we should take videogames less seriously and just enjoy them for the fun that they are? It isn't meant to represent reality. Its suppose to be fun.

 How did you quote those posts? I would love to do that

[mesmerizedish]

Ninja Mage wrote...

John Epler- You want to know who is Bi? Fine! It's the day after Valentine's so I'll tell YOU!

It's Isabela, and ANDERS!!!!!!!

Me- SWOOON

I'm still holding out hope that we'll get to romance Mike Laidlaw and David Gaider. AT THE SAME TIME