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[Gvaz]

Anyone? Were these stories written by Gaider or just by some marketing Intern? Who was the demographic for these short stories?

[Shadedclan]

I was skimming through Ander's description. Does that mean Justice takes control over Ander's body? I'm thinking he willingly gave his body for Justice to give, well, justice. He wants to give apostates the justice they need. Anyway, I am thinking how will you romance Anders if Justice is there? Like threesome? And I'm thinking they are sharing the body so how will they share it?

[Adara]

GvazElite wrote...

Anyone? Were these stories written by Gaider or just by some marketing Intern? Who was the demographic for these short stories?

They were written by Devs I think the Fenris one was by David Gaider (I think) and the Anders one was written by Jennifer Helper from what I hear. I am pretty sure they were written by the main Devs.

[Maria Caliban]

GvazElite wrote...

Anyone? Were these stories written by Gaider...?

Fenris = David
Merrill = Mary
Isabela = Sheryl
Anders = Jennifer

[Gvaz]

Thats....

I'm afraid I can't make a comment without coming off sounding like an ass, but I expected more from the lead writer. That doesn't bode well at all.

[Nick_Nitro]

fibchopkin wrote...

you didn't like Fenris' story?- I thought it was a really cool snap shot of what his life on the run was like. What did you find disappointing about it?

Yeah, it was pretty decent actually.

[Selidor]

I thought they were fine for samples to introduce the characters, not to mention that writing a script and writing prose are very different matters and I'm more interested in their abilities to write the former than the latter.

We already have evidence of how they write the game dialogue and such from DA:O etc, so I don't see much to worry about.

Modifié par Selidor, 17 février 2011 - 02:55 .

[Gvaz]

To be frank, if it was written in like a period of 50 minutes, I can forgive it. But the whole thing came off as a high school level fanfiction.

"The first pair of open shutters he saw and Fenris dived through. He landed in a kitchen filled with the smell of baking bread, and a human woman screamed as he rolled to his feet. No doubt the sight of an elf in skintight armor, carrying a blade almost as large as himself, wasn’t a welcome sight. He got to his feet and noticed the surprisingly comely woman, dressed in a nightgown that revealed more of her cleavage than she no doubt expected, pressing against the wall."

In particular was just . Bolded parts. Why was this not described differently? The way it's stated is sexualizing him, at the same time he's in a situation where the woman probably thinks the elf is going to harm her. What?

Also then it goes on to describe her breasts, and I just lose it.

I haven't been this disappointed since the mass effect novels :\\

[Eclipse_9990]

GvazElite wrote...

To be frank, if it was written in like a period of 50 minutes, I can forgive it. But the whole thing came off as a high school level fanfiction.

"The first pair of open shutters he saw and Fenris dived through. He landed in a kitchen filled with the smell of baking bread, and a human woman screamed as he rolled to his feet. No doubt the sight of an elf in skintight armor, carrying a blade almost as large as himself, wasn’t a welcome sight. He got to his feet and noticed the surprisingly comely woman, dressed in a nightgown that revealed more of her cleavage than she no doubt expected, pressing against the wall."

In particular was just . Bolded parts. Why was this not described differently? The way it's stated is sexualizing him, at the same time he's in a situation where the woman probably thinks the elf is going to harm her. What?

Also then it goes on to describe her breasts, and I just lose it.

I haven't been this disappointed since the mass effect novels :\\\\

Complaining is just your favorite past time isnt it? 

[Gvaz]

Seems no one else is, about the things that matter.

[Jimmy Fury]

Chouan wrote...
You mean this thread perhaps social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/5687716 ? I didn't find anything saying that they wouldn't do it for DA2, just that they didn't choose to do it for DA:O. Closest quote I can (by Mr. Gaider) find is: "There's absolutely nothing wrong with making all romances accessible to any gender. It just requires a different approach, from a writing standpoint..." and "Would we do this? I'm not really going to say one way or the other-- but if we did I think it's safe to assume we wouldn't set out to implement it in the worst way possible."

One thing to remember when quoting or drawing conclusions from anything Gaider says is that he speaks theoretically a lot.
He plays devils advocate when too many people are jumping to one conclusion, he explains how or why certain decisions might be made if they get made, and he defends logical arguments even if their conclusions aren't true.
He spent a good month or two talking to us in the s/s romance threads about how and why s/s romances could be left out if that were to be the case.

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

MY PROFESSIONAL REVIEW OF EACH SHORT STORY

Anders::lol:(shocking and Awesome)

Merril:(intresting and Cute)


Isabella:<_<(predictable but better than i expected)

Fenris:(lol wot)


Top to bottom in order of how i liked them.

[Minxie]

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

MY PROFESSIONAL REVIEW OF EACH SHORT STORY

Anders::lol:(shocking and Awesome)

Merril:(intresting and Cute)


Isabella:<_<(predictable but better than i expected)

Fenris:(lol wot)


Top to bottom in order of how i liked them.

I'm curious - why the face for Fenris? Was it the phase-y brains thing? (I'd be surprised if you thought that was more gross than the Anders story )

[Elsariel]

GvazElite wrote...

To be frank, if it was written in like a period of 50 minutes, I can forgive it. But the whole thing came off as a high school level fanfiction.

"The first pair of open shutters he saw and Fenris dived through. He landed in a kitchen filled with the smell of baking bread, and a human woman screamed as he rolled to his feet. No doubt the sight of an elf in skintight armor, carrying a blade almost as large as himself, wasn’t a welcome sight. He got to his feet and noticed the surprisingly comely woman, dressed in a nightgown that revealed more of her cleavage than she no doubt expected, pressing against the wall."

In particular was just . Bolded parts. Why was this not described differently? The way it's stated is sexualizing him, at the same time he's in a situation where the woman probably thinks the elf is going to harm her. What?

Also then it goes on to describe her breasts, and I just lose it.

I haven't been this disappointed since the mass effect novels :\\\\

You do realise that writing novels take copious amounts of time and editing to make them sound good, don't you?  Editing, re-editing, and re-re-editing.... It's quite a bit of work.  Most well known and beloved author's  first and second drafts look like high school fanfiction.  

I can't imagine anyone wanting to spend too much time on a little snippet like this that's going to be posted in one thread on the Bioware forums.   Yeah, it's not the most awesomely written introductory story, but it's passable and entertaining and it did it's job.   Is it really that big a deal to be so completely dissapointed by it?  I just don't get it....

[Gvaz]

That's what I said? If it was just something someone wrote up for the forums in an hour, then its forgivable, but even so, they're all bad from a story point of view. From a "teasing you guys with the personality of the character because the game isn't out yet" they're alright.

[kevin cousland]

you can lick lamposts, and its winter.

[obnoxiousgas]

GvazElite wrote...

To be frank, if it was written in like a period of 50 minutes, I can forgive it. But the whole thing came off as a high school level fanfiction.

"The first pair of open shutters he saw and Fenris dived through. He landed in a kitchen filled with the smell of baking bread, and a human woman screamed as he rolled to his feet. No doubt the sight of an elf in skintight armor, carrying a blade almost as large as himself, wasn’t a welcome sight. He got to his feet and noticed the surprisingly comely woman, dressed in a nightgown that revealed more of her cleavage than she no doubt expected, pressing against the wall."

In particular was just . Bolded parts. Why was this not described differently? The way it's stated is sexualizing him, at the same time he's in a situation where the woman probably thinks the elf is going to harm her. What?

Also then it goes on to describe her breasts, and I just lose it.

I haven't been this disappointed since the mass effect novels :\\\\

I do actually agree that they're not the best written things in the world.  On the other hand, I suppose they do the job they're intended and probably came pretty low in the list of the writers' priorities, and considering I have enjoyed their work in Origins I'm going to assume the quality of these is not representative of the writing in the game.

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

Minxie18 wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

MY PROFESSIONAL REVIEW OF EACH SHORT STORY

Anders::lol:(shocking and Awesome)

Merril:(intresting and Cute)


Isabella:<_<(predictable but better than i expected)

Fenris:(lol wot)


Top to bottom in order of how i liked them.

I'm curious - why the face for Fenris? Was it the phase-y brains thing? (I'd be surprised if you thought that was more gross than the Anders story )

i see why the could be confusing,
It's more than the story itself made me wanna puke than anything in particularl that grossed me out,

[Gvaz]

obnoxiousgas wrote...

I do actually agree that they're not the best written things in the world.  On the other hand, I suppose they do the job they're intended and probably came pretty low in the list of the writers' priorities, and considering I have enjoyed their work in Origins I'm going to assume the quality of these is not representative of the writing in the game.

I think in this case I'm going to defer to your optimism.

[Shepard Lives]

GvazElite wrote...

Seems no one else is, about the things that matter.

You do not read these forums much, do you?

[quickthorn]

"The first pair of open shutters he saw and Fenris dived through. He landed in a kitchen filled with the smell of baking bread, and a human woman screamed as he rolled to his feet. No doubt the sight of an elf in skintight armor, carrying a blade almost as large as himself, wasn’t a welcome sight. He got to his feet and noticed the surprisingly comely woman, dressed in a nightgown that revealed more of her cleavage than she no doubt expected, pressing against the wall."

In particular was just . Bolded parts. Why was this not described differently? The way it's stated is sexualizing him, at the same time he's in a situation where the woman probably thinks the elf is going to harm her. What?

I can see your point here as that part jarred with me too.  Since it was the second time his huge sword was mentioned, I hope there's a joke somewhere in the game about overcompensation.  He came across as a jerk but I'd guess that was intentional.  I know some gamers go nuts for the whole bad-boy fantasy and I'm not into that, so I'll admit to being biased.  I enjoyed Merill's story the most because it wasn't all 'look how badass I am' and I found the quirkiness and lack of confidence refreshing.

Even so, paradoxically I enjoyed the tiny slice of cutscene footage of Fenris I've seen  because of the cocky swagger.  I just hope there's more to his character than that because it would get old pretty quickly, but based on past games there probably is.  I'll reserve judgment on any of them before playing the game itself.

Modifié par quickthorn, 17 février 2011 - 04:33 .

[Gvaz]

Shepard Lives wrote...

GvazElite wrote...

Seems no one else is, about the things that matter.

You do not read these forums much, do you?

I try to not read this forum too much because it makes me want to gouge my eyes out and launch a million nukes onto the surface of the earth.

Modifié par GvazElite, 17 février 2011 - 05:05 .

[Addai]

GvazElite wrote...
I try to not read this forum too much because it makes me want to gouge my eyes out and launch a million nukes onto the surface of the earth.

I suggest yoga.  And Valium.

[Addai]

GvazElite wrote...

That's what I said? If it was just something someone wrote up for the forums in an hour, then its forgivable, but even so, they're all bad from a story point of view. From a "teasing you guys with the personality of the character because the game isn't out yet" they're alright.

Since that is the stated purpose of them...