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[Thy Bleed]

Voods07 wrote...

 I guess the only real option for Male Hawke is Merrill.....Isabella has a butterface.

Are you crazy? She fine as all hell. (could be better without the face piercing though)

[Waage25]

quickthorn wrote...

"The first pair of open shutters he saw and Fenris dived through. He landed in a kitchen filled with the smell of baking bread, and a human woman screamed as he rolled to his feet. No doubt the sight of an elf in skintight armor, carrying a blade almost as large as himself, wasn’t a welcome sight. He got to his feet and noticed the surprisingly comely woman, dressed in a nightgown that revealed more of her cleavage than she no doubt expected, pressing against the wall."

In particular was just . Bolded parts. Why was this not described differently? The way it's stated is sexualizing him, at the same time he's in a situation where the woman probably thinks the elf is going to harm her. What?

I can see your point here as that part jarred with me too.  Since it was the second time his huge sword was mentioned, I hope there's a joke somewhere in the game about overcompensation.  He came across as a jerk but I'd guess that was intentional.  I know some gamers go nuts for the whole bad-boy fantasy and I'm not into that, so I'll admit to being biased.  I enjoyed Merill's story the most because it wasn't all 'look how badass I am' and I found the quirkiness and lack of confidence refreshing.

Even so, paradoxically I enjoyed the tiny slice of cutscene footage of Fenris I've seen  because of the cocky swagger.  I just hope there's more to his character than that because it would get old pretty quickly, but based on past games there probably is.  I'll reserve judgment on any of them before playing the game itself.

Like what past games?.

Every character was a cookie cutter cut out from the big book of clichés.
Now to be fair ME1  and 2 had some interesting characters, but DA:O had the bog standard of the standard and DA2 dose not seem to change that mixed with that fact that the game is supposed to be shorted then DA:O giving even less time for character development.

[Elsariel]

Waage25 wrote...

Every character was a cookie cutter cut out from the big book of clichés.

Just out of curiosity... what type of character would you like to see in DA2 (or any game) that is not a cliché?

[HolyJellyfish]

Well, the devs took their time to write them for us when they clearly didn't have to. You can take the high road and say you disliked them or you can take the troll road and equate them to fanfiction.

[Gvaz]

How is trolling to say they're on the writing level of fanfiction, when they are?



protip: it's not.

[Beerfish]

GvazElite wrote...

How is trolling to say they're on the writing level of fanfiction, when they are?

protip: it's not.

Often a persons message gets totally lost in the delivery of that message.  Speaking in absolutes, indicating that any other opinions are eye gouge worthy or stupid are a couple of examples.

Although often the person delivering that type of message insists that they are merely trying to voice a strong opinion and educate the masses on the way of their wrongs in reality they are posting for themsleves and perhaps a very small number of people that will pat them on the back for taking a strong stand and not for the benefit of any large number of people.

I dare say that one could pick up any number of pieces of fiction with no prior knowledge of their content and label it fan fiction quality.  It is also impossible for people to take that type of critique seriously when the person making the critique doens't give concrete examples of similar works that are excellent or worthy in their opinion.

[SolidBeast]

As far as Fenris' story is concerned, the cleavage scene put me off (+ a possible hint at him being a straight-only option?). Was quite looking forward to a character who would be cocky, while not being another ladies' man. Too bad.

On the other hand, I was not liking the idea of Anders returning, his perkyness got on my nerves. But after reading his story, I've changed my mind. How delicious.
He also struck me as a bit gay in Awakening, even though he kept mentioning women. I think out of the two he's more likely to be a bisexual LI (unless the speculation is true and they're all bi, which, while intriguing, probably won't happen).

[HolyJellyfish]

Trolling gets obvious when a poster begins to take the time to do nothing but write insulting posts, targeting the devs, other players, and pretty much draining all the fun out of the boards. And proceed to get excessively defensive and further insulting when other people begin to point out how trollish they are, because they have received the attention they always wanted.

Shouldn't feed the trolls, but I sure can point them out and block them.

[Count Viceroy]

Thy Bleed wrote...

Voods07 wrote...

 I guess the only real option for Male Hawke is Merrill.....Isabella has a butterface.

Are you crazy? She fine as all hell. (could be better without the face piercing though)

The piercing is the icing on the cake.

[Super_Cat]

Anders and Fenris seem so damaged and have lots of problems that could make a romantic relationship hard.

Good thing I'm into that.

[lilliful]

kevin cousland wrote...

you can lick lamposts, and its winter.

I hope the devs confirm all romance options are bi with exactly this phrase. I lulzed.

[Elsariel]

Super_Cat wrote...

Anders and Fenris seem so damaged and have lots of problems that could make a romantic relationship hard.

Good thing I'm into that.

Oh, I am so into that.  The angstier (is that a word?) the better.  My favorite romantic stories have always been the ones where one or both partners have major baggage, depression, cynicsism, and/or stoicism.  I would never want that in a real-life relationship, but in stories?  It makes it all the more interesting to me.

[Addai]

SolidBeast wrote...

As far as Fenris' story is concerned, the cleavage scene put me off (+ a possible hint at him being a straight-only option?). Was quite looking forward to a character who would be cocky, while not being another ladies' man. Too bad.

If a man didn't notice a woman's half-exposed cleavage, I'd check for a pulse.  It didn't say he ogled.

He also struck me as a bit gay in Awakening, even though he kept mentioning women. I think out of the two he's more likely to be a bisexual LI (unless the speculation is true and they're all bi, which, while intriguing, probably won't happen).

Agreed.

[SolidBeast]

Addai67 wrote...
If a man didn't notice a woman's half-exposed cleavage, I'd check for a pulse.  It didn't say he ogled.

While that may be true, mentioning it wasn't necessary and is certainly saying more about his personality, otherwise it wouldn't have been included.

That said, I'm all for such little details usually, just wasn't the way I was hoping him to be.

Modifié par SolidBeast, 17 février 2011 - 07:02 .

[elirian_19]

GvazElite wrote...

How is trolling to say they're on the writing level of fanfiction, when they are?

protip: it's not.

Saying it's on the writing level of fanfiction is also a matter of opinion.

[Curlain]

SolidBeast wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
If a man didn't notice a woman's half-exposed cleavage, I'd check for a pulse.  It didn't say he ogled.

While that may be true, mentioning it wasn't necessary and is certainly saying more about his personality, otherwise it wouldn't have been included.

That said, I'm all for such little details usually, just wasn't the way I was hoping him to be.

Well to be fair, the fact that he is the kinda guy who notices a lady's cleavage doesn't equal to him to being a ladie's man or a perv etc (otherwise allot of men would be classed as such, though not me of course, I'm the very image of the pure of heart :innocent:)

But in anycase, I don't think that's enough yet to judge Fenris's character with.  I'd wait and see what he's like in the game

[JohnstonMR]

thedistortedchild wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

Why the hell do people care if LI are bi?

Just...why?

Because there are bisexual people who worry that they won't be able to carry out a romance option like that. That's all.

I, as a Bisexual person, think that Bioware does freaking awesome withe thier bisexual characters. 

I agree.  I do understand why some would prefer a totally gay character--and I'd like that too, come to that--but I also understand why Bioware can't really do that.

Edit: fixed spelling.  Can you believe I teach English?

Modifié par JohnstonMR, 17 février 2011 - 08:19 .

[JohnstonMR]

Jenova65 wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

dynamicdandito wrote...

I just thought of something. Isabella seems to be the cannon romance option. Bioware never does a bi-cannon romance. Isabella is straight in DA2, Merille is bi. Yes, yes, oh bloody yes.

*Cough* Liara *cough*

Liara isnt really bi because shes asexual.

ROFL she isn't. The asari (for the millionth time) are mono-gendered (one gender) not non gendered and that gender is female, sorry but that woman is a woman and I am not interested  I like men, I like men that look like men I do not like men who have a bosom............ 

And tbh, it was just BioWare excusing a F/F relationship with a contrived view of Asari. 
If you think long and hard enough you can justify anything........... 
masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Asari

 Though, there is a conversation you can overhear in ME2 in which it becomes clear that Asari DON'T really look like that, except to humans--to the Salarian they look salarian, and to Turians they look Turian.  So we don't really know WHAT they actually look like. 

[Jenova65]

JohnstonMR wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

dynamicdandito wrote...

I just thought of something. Isabella seems to be the cannon romance option. Bioware never does a bi-cannon romance. Isabella is straight in DA2, Merille is bi. Yes, yes, oh bloody yes.

*Cough* Liara *cough*

Liara isnt really bi because shes asexual.

ROFL she isn't. The asari (for the millionth time) are mono-gendered (one gender) not non gendered and that gender is female, sorry but that woman is a woman and I am not interested  I like men, I like men that look like men I do not like men who have a bosom............ 

And tbh, it was just BioWare excusing a F/F relationship with a contrived view of Asari. 
If you think long and hard enough you can justify anything........... 
masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Asari

 Though, there is a conversation you can overhear in ME2 in which it becomes clear that Asari DON'T really look like that, except to humans--to the Salarian they look salarian, and to Turians they look Turian.  So we don't really know WHAT they actually look like. 

They look like females to all humans.................... Kaidan even says ''Yeah, but you like a...........'' And femshep can state disgust at Liara coming onto her cos she is a woman... They are women! Also the point is we know what they look like TO US.......... And have you ever noticed that it is pretty much all males admiring the Asari dancers. 
On Noveria if you have Liara in the party when talking to Lorik Qui'in she comments about the fascination that young human males have with Asari, so let's do the math here........
And the scene you mention was comic relief at best 
Anyway, this is veering off topic wildly now and I don't wish to do that, so how about if you read this and disagree then we just agree to disagree  as I would prefer to discuss Anders and Fenris and remain on topic, they look kind of like men at least 

[SolidBeast]

Curlain wrote...
Well to be fair, the fact that he is the kinda guy who notices a lady's cleavage doesn't equal to him to being a ladie's man or a perv etc (otherwise allot of men would be classed as such, though not me of course, I'm the very image of the pure of heart :innocent:)

But in anycase, I don't think that's enough yet to judge Fenris's character with.  I'd wait and see what he's like in the game

All I'm saying is that devs tend to hint at things when they post and I don't like what David was (possibly) hinting at. Doesn't necessarily mean I'll hate the character or anything.

[Pedonecrophile]

1. Flay Merrill's hide
2. Harden Isabella
3. Sleep with Isabella
4. PROFIT!

Modifié par Pedonecrophile, 17 février 2011 - 07:39 .

[Encandescent]

Agreed.  Both Fenris and Anders both look like men, whether a player considers them effeminte or not, clearly neither of them have breasts.

So, Regardless of whether Anders and Fenris are just straight or BI, it should be interesting.

Modifié par Encandescent, 18 février 2011 - 01:46 .

[Bellbell]

The men both seem far more obviously tragic than the women. Did we use up our quota of happy on Alistair?

[Elsariel]

Bellbell wrote...

The men both seem far more obviously tragic than the women. Did we use up our quota of happy on Alistair?

I think there might still be a little bit of happy in Anders.  He doesn't seem to type to give into meloncholy too much.  I bet a bit of his snark and sass is still lingering around. 

Modifié par Elsariel, 17 février 2011 - 07:43 .