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[CyberFive]

DrekorSilverfang wrote...

Just force field your tank once it has aggro and it's an easy fight.

I didn't have force field. I am playing with the other cookie cutter 'insta-win' button: Cone of Cold (combined with crits).

[CaptBurn]

It's an easy fight...



Activate the fight then immediately run back in the hall and close the door. The door will open once in a while and she will probably be the first one in... start pounding her. Just keep closing the door whenever someone opens it. Cast AoE into the room from behind the door. Done.

[CyberFive]

CaptBurn wrote...


It's an easy fight...

Activate the fight then immediately run back in the hall and close the door. The door will open once in a while and she will probably be the first one in... start pounding her. Just keep closing the door whenever someone opens it. Cast AoE into the room from behind the door. Done.

That sounds a bit silly, but I bet that works too. Sounds more like exploiting some bad/shoddy game mechanics. But oh well. The way I did it felt like 'cheating' as well. I got it done. At least I am closer to finishing this game at all.

[Pimpskinny]

I got so close to killing her in a straight-up fight by taking out all her support first while kiting her with my tank.



First Sleep for all of them and Walking Nightmare to recruit some allies Horrored the Mage then my Rogue took him out, then Cone of Cold and various crits to shatter the archers. Everything has to go just right, but I finally managed to kill everyone but her, only to have her get a massive crit on my tank when she was at half health. I don't have Revival so of course she killed everyone else. Took me like 10 tries to get that far - I was so pissed.



But you can win in a cheesy way too. I cast sleep on everyone in the room and ran down the hall to another room. She was the only one who resisted and followed. When then others woke up they didn't pursue me. After I took her out by herself (hard enough!), I was able to archer-pull the right-hand archers/warrior out 1-2 at a time. Then all I had was the mage and left-hand archers. Big triumph then found out it's more fun to surrender. I don't even use a two-handed warrior in my party so Summer Sword was just bragging rights. Bleh!



So what's more fun? Escape or Rescue?

[Loc'n'lol]

Pimpskinny wrote...

So what's more fun? Escape or Rescue?

Rescue... There's nothing special about escaping on your own.

[Addai]

I think the game sets you up to lose this fight. Everything is pointing you to the Captured quest. Which is not a bad thing, since it's so much fun.

[mosspit]

Hmmm I dun completely believe that the game set us up to lose the fight.... Reason is that there is a specific codex entry if you kill cauthrien at howe's. I think it is designed such that (i) you can fight her in the archer room for a challenge, (ii) lure cauthrien alone elsewhere for a 4on1 or (iii) surrender to avoid injuries.

Modifié par mosspit, 22 février 2010 - 04:27 .

[Nonvita]

You *can* defeat her, and of course they had to have a codex entry just in case you do, but the fact that the battle is purposely so difficult is to make you more likely to go to jail. The writers put in extra effort on the rescue teams (who was it that said she put in lots of overtime to write all the combinations? Was that Mary?), so of course they want to show off their work. Plus it's an entirely welcome break from the constant fighting. Really, you've won hundreds of battles already, does it hurt to lose just this one? =P

[DraconisCombine]

I ended up defeating her and her men ,after going through 50 some odd potions and healing/cc spells.I pulled her out of that room and beat her in the hallway.youll have about 2 or 3 crossbowmen continue to peck at you while you do this.I did have two tanks with me though.Alister,Sten,Morrigan and myself.You are not meant to defeat her all the time though.I just got lucky.

[Pimpskinny]

Well yea the game is definitely prepared if you win. Anora says something about Cauthrien's death when you meet her and Eamon after the fight. I'm thinking I'll do it again, but this time just make a good effort to kill everyone but her - that way I can maximize experience and at least go out in a fight as it should be.

[Nikatjef]

Greetings,



If you are able to take Cauthrien, the rest is pretty simple. On my most recent play through, I pulled Cauthrien into the queens room, killed her (tough fight that one), then went into the hallway and used range to take out two archers. Moved forward to take out the next two, moved a bit to take out the mage and one of the other archers, then just rushed the remaining archers.

[mosspit]

Nonvita wrote...
You *can* defeat her, and of course they had to have a codex entry just in case you do, but the fact that the battle is purposely so difficult is to make you more likely to go to jail. The writers put in extra effort on the rescue teams (who was it that said she put in lots of overtime to write all the combinations? Was that Mary?), so of course they want to show off their work. Plus it's an entirely welcome break from the constant fighting. Really, you've won hundreds of battles already, does it hurt to lose just this one? =P

Yes of course the "escape" scenario is also intended. I am saying that it gives the gamer a choice to take a shot at arugbly the most difficult fight in the game whilst not creating a showstopper. If we are forcibly meant to lose that battle, all that needs to be done is make cauthrien invincible (like what they do to many allied npcs) and remove the codex entry at Howe's as it will be impossible to win(in this case). I am in no way attempting to undermine the contribution to the escape scenario.

[errant_knight]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

Pimpskinny wrote...

So what's more fun? Escape or Rescue?

Rescue... There's nothing special about escaping on your own.

The only reason to escape on your own is if you have no healing potions after Howe's and no healer to come with the rescue party. That, or you're playing a character who wants to kill as few people as possible. If you escape by yourselves, you can get out with less fighting, although none of it is hard.

[Zalbaar]

I start by killing the mages then killing the archers, then I take out the mean evil lady that has to die because she told me my betters were talking and to shut up. If you can manage to keep your party alive for alittle while then you can take out the archers and mages and they will have "her" down to minimum power before you go to kill her. And as a rogue there is a power where you can to a large slash. This will help take out most of the archers first. You can get like three hits with one on three different guys.

[PatT2]

for a fight like this, it really sounds like you should have one mage, with a spell like sleep. It's got a ahuge AoE and until you hit them, they all sleep. So control who gets hit...and you only fight the ones you choose to fight, as you choose to fight them. Sleep + crushing prison (for Cauthrien) and it seems it wouldn't be so bad. I usually stun/immobilize mages then have leliana shoot them with her bad-*** bow. Stop all the archers using sleep and hit ser cauthrien with crushing prison, and then you can just pick and choose who you want to fight at your leisure.



That said, I usually surrender so I can try different combinations of rescuers. It's just more fun. I love Morrigan and Leliana as preists.



Besides, I don't need another great sword. There's plenty of them. I don't need more armor. If I could get a super-dooper mages's staff out of the fight, I'd do the fight. Otherwise, I'd rather have a dog-n-pony show in a rescue. It's just more fun.

[Sandtigress]

Nonvita wrote...

You *can* defeat her, and of course they had to have a codex entry just in case you do, but the fact that the battle is purposely so difficult is to make you more likely to go to jail. The writers put in extra effort on the rescue teams (who was it that said she put in lots of overtime to write all the combinations? Was that Mary?), so of course they want to show off their work. Plus it's an entirely welcome break from the constant fighting. Really, you've won hundreds of battles already, does it hurt to lose just this one? =P

Yes, it was Mary Kirby who said she put in that overtime to give us those hilarious combinations.  I never try to win that fight anymore, because Captured! is suuuuuuch a great quest.

[Fishy]

CyberFive wrote...

Even if the quest is great, it bugs me that I have to die to continue playing through the story

The only alternative I seem to have is go back to a save game of several days (real life days) earlier and respec and redo and make sure I get the stuff that is needed for this particular fight. It's not an option I'm willing to do.

If you bring allistair with you .. he will get jailed also.Canon wise you're alone.Because even if you bring Morrigan/sten or any character outside Allistair they won't jailed.

Plus there's 20 Well trained soldier  with bow and 1 bad ass chick with  a huge sword.You know ... The main protagonist's a bad ass.But there's always a limit with badaserry.You're not a god.It's make sense the fight 's almost imposible to do . Because you should not win it.

Sure you can win it .. If you kite for 10 hours .. bring 100 potion and play on easy.But seriously..Just accept that you're not Jesus pulling miracle out of your ass.

[Addai]

Sandtigress wrote...

Yes, it was Mary Kirby who said she put in that overtime to give us those hilarious combinations.  I never try to win that fight anymore, because Captured! is suuuuuuch a great quest.

Smooches to her!  They're brilliant.

[NightmarezAbound]

a key question is what is your group make up for the fight? I find Lelina Archer Bard/Ranger build is nice, have her summon her nastiest beast, and make sure Song of Courage is active. have one tank I like using Sten usually with Champion Spec. (if you plan on surrendering do not take Sten) Morrigan for AOE's make sure you use your pots often, I beeline and take out the mage first have Leliana set to use Scattershot with her tactics to target mages first then ranged characters.

kill the mages first and then gor after Ser C.

you might be down a character or two by then though. just keep spamming pots.



of course I like to go into that fight take out Ser C. get her gear and then be knocked out. then meeter her again in the landsmeet and get her gear again. Summer Sword is fun to sell twice.

[mosspit]

I personally done it both in a group and solo before.

[errant_knight]

mosspit wrote...

I personally done it both in a group and solo before.

You solo'd the fight with Ser Cautherin and her men at Howe's?

[Cutlass Jack]

My favorite option for the rescue is Dog and Lelianna. Let Dog come up with the plan. So funny.

[mosspit]

errant_knight wrote...
You solo'd the fight with Ser Cautherin and her men at Howe's?

This is nothing. Timortis done it with a dw rogue with no potions. I needed 8 lesser health poultices for this.

[errant_knight]

Wow. I can barely get out of the stairwell from the dugeon with the whole group. Havn't even tried the Ser Cautherin fight....

[Cuddlezarro]

errant_knight wrote...

Wow. I can barely get out of the stairwell from the dugeon with the whole group. Havn't even tried the Ser Cautherin fight....

well she is playing as an arcane warrior which if built right is pretty much god mode even on the hardest difficulty

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 23 février 2010 - 07:39 .