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JamieCOTC

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Pretty much only one thing will make me NOT buy the game - multiplayer.

Other than that, I will buy the game regardless. However, if the story isn't more focused on Shepard, I will be majorly disappointed.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 15 février 2011 - 04:43 .


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If Garrus still hasn't bought new not-broken armor

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If TIM or Udina becomes a LI, I think I would likely not buy the game.

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The only major thing that would turn me off is if the entire plot revolves around Earth and only Earth....

I don't care what they do with the squad members... just give an explanation as to who and why said squad members left. Although I bet only a few would really leave and be replaced... Like replacing Thane with Kolyat, Samara with Liara... etc.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 15 février 2011 - 06:12 .


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JamieCOTC wrote...

Pretty much only one thing will make me NOT buy the game - multiplayer.

Other than that, I will buy the game regardless. However, if the story isn't more focused on Shepard, I will be majorly disappointed.


Totally this. Multiplayer would kill the purpose of RPG.

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Not including Shatner as an elevator operator for longer load screens.



If anyone other than Zaeed survives.



If they bring the T-Rex back to LA....



You survive a nuclear blast by hiding in a refrigerator.



TIM tries to quit smoking.



If the volus are revealed to be ewoks / the key to defeating the Reapers...



Miniature Giant Space Hamsters must be included.

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Multiplayer and NOT more then 3 endings.

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Thepeak12 wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Pretty much only one thing will make me NOT buy the game - multiplayer.

Other than that, I will buy the game regardless. However, if the story isn't more focused on Shepard, I will be majorly disappointed.


Totally this. Multiplayer would kill the purpose of RPG.


I really do not know how they'll incorporate multiplayer in ME... By that logic they would have put it in DA:O.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 15 février 2011 - 07:19 .


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Multiplayer

Crappy PC version

Having to spend most of the game recruiting and babysitting new squaddies

Feeling like previously introduced characters are more or less ignored

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Therefore_I_Am wrote...

I really do not know how they'll incorporate multiplayer in ME... By that logic they would have put it in DA:O.


They won't you can't have multiplayer because you can't all be Shepard.

In a less "Shepard Centric" game maybe. Although multiplayer tends to work best in more action RPGs. Unless you have a patient group.

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1) ****** poor story substituted by holding hands with countless "squad mates".

(Dont want to play Sims in space where I need to get as many friends as I can).



2) Day one DLC.

(such massive games like ME3 should be complete, with DLC released later on to add MEANINGFUL content. Look at Starcraft 2, it had no "Day one DLC" and it sold very well).



3) My computer isnt broken :P

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Wizz wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

a cameo'd squad, and a botched/contrived storyline

They'll never tell such things before release.

Precisely why I (almost) never buy games on their release date.  I let them sit for a while and lightly dabble in spoilers to make sure a certain game isn't going to make me ragequit.

For example, a few days after release I'd google "Garrus ME3" and see if I can find any confirmation that he's back on the squad.  If I find it, hooray!  Off to Gamestop.  If I find out he dies horribly and tragically in some way by accident, I have a short enough attention span that I'll still cry like a baby when it happens.

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- Lazarus Project 2.0

- Recruiting a new team with only a few returning squadmates

- Multiplayer

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Well about multiplayer,I doubt they'd do that,honestly I do think they realize they'd kill the whole series,recruiting new members...well,kind of the whole point of ME2 was recruiting and keeping them alive,why would you spend 40-60 hours doing that and working at keeping them alive if you'd recruit new ones? If they'd die I'm sure others could replace them in ME3.As for a real deal breaker,they said your Shepard can permanently die...well,who would replace him/her? It would be awesome if it would be someone who loved Shepard and was his like fan (not like Conrad to mention) and would go over Shepard's story and achievements and sort of try to avenge him by saving the Universe from the Reapers.But if not maybe he/she had a kid with one of the squad members,but for those who didn't romance anyone...I donno,the new Shep is probably my worst nightmare and who would replace him,other than that I'm proud to have kept mine and my squad alive.

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Marta Rio wrote...

I probably would wait to buy a used copy if I the devs said something like "We've decided to include a new set of characters.  The old ones are still present, and have small roles, but when all is said and done, this is Shepard's story, not the squadmates' story."  If this were the case I'd still be curious how the story ends, but I'd likely have much less emotional investment in it.


I hate to be a downer but I'm 90% sure this is going to be the case in ME3. There may be one or two returning squadmates, but that's just how these games work. ME2 was almost entirely all new characters, what makes you think ME3 will be different? In ME2 most of the crew is only there for suicide mission and all the squadmates are more or less expendable as bad as that sounds.

I expect they will have significant cameo roles in ME3, sort of like Liara did. But I wouldn't expect much else.

For a while I couldn't fathom them doing this either, but then it kind of just set in. Personally I look forward to working with a new team now. I mean there really isn't much more that can be expanded upon in terms of character development for the ME2 crew. You already should have taken care of their problems. There really would be nothing you could do with them in ME3 except talk about how they feel about the Reapers killing everything.


I dunno I think the biggest dealbreaker to me would be if only a very few decisions carry-over. I know each game is a standalone title, but if what I decisions I made in ME1 doesn't amount to anything in the ME3 I'm going to be displeased.

More minor dealbreakers would be them not fixing incontinencies like squadmates not wearing armor, Shepard surving planetary re-entry, etc. Basically if they don't bother to make the game any different/better then ME2. Also ME2 really let me down in that it didn't even seem to care about scientifically plausible. I mean sure ME1 isn't perfect either and has it's fair share of pseudo-science, but at least they reasonably tried to ground the game in some science, you know so that it can actually be called Sci-Fi. In ME2 it's like "LOL what's science? Pew pew pew!" If that happens again I'll be in rush to get ME3.

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Bluko wrote...

Marta Rio wrote...

I probably would wait to buy a used copy if I the devs said something like "We've decided to include a new set of characters.  The old ones are still present, and have small roles, but when all is said and done, this is Shepard's story, not the squadmates' story."  If this were the case I'd still be curious how the story ends, but I'd likely have much less emotional investment in it.


I hate to be a downer but I'm 90% sure this is going to be the case in ME3. There may be one or two returning squadmates, but that's just how these games work. ME2 was almost entirely all new characters, what makes you think ME3 will be different? In ME2 most of the crew is only there for suicide mission and all the squadmates are more or less expendable as bad as that sounds.


Simple: around 80% of Mass Effect 2 was based upon recruiting and gaining the trust of these people. To kill them off or reduce them to cameo roles would make the Mass Effect 2 story even more pointless (in terms of the trilogy overall, not as a game) than it already is.

What takes more effort, developing characters you have spent years already shaping, and giving them roles despite the fact that some of them may not be used by every body, or starting from scratch with a whole other bunch of people who nobody has any reason to care about?

If Mass Effect 2 didn't take so much time on the characters rather than the whole Reaper/Extinction plot then I could see what you mean, but to do that now would just make Mass Effect 2 an almost complete waste of time.

Obviously you may very well be correct, but I am sincerely hoping Bioware are smart about this, as even most of the people who don't think the team will return are hoping they do.

Although if all this "We want the games to work standalone" crap is to be believed then we may all be very disappointed...

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 15 février 2011 - 08:12 .


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Two pages and no Liz Lemon. Fail.

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After enjoying the first two parts (repeatedly), I'm already planning on buying part three on day one and since I don't want to read too much about it before playing that's unlikely to change.



Some things would annoy me though, I'm with the people that are hoping that it's not just "Earth vs the Reapers" and that other races are involved. It's possible that the game will mostly be about organising your allies or finding something to fight the Reapers so hopefully Earth will just be a small part (maybe the location of the final fight, perhaps you have to activate and protect the anti-reaper device that you built there and that's how you fight on foot at the end). Even if they did go for a story that I wouldn't have wanted I think they could still manage to surprise me and make something good out of it.



I suppose I mostly care about the characters, I'll be extremely disappointed if Garrus and Tali aren't potential squadmates and I'd like to see at least some of the other ME2 folk return. It'll be interesting to see how they handle it, they really made things difficult for themselves by creating such great characters and then letting you kill them off.

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Major turn-offs:



If the Samara/Morinth decision has no consequences

If the entire squad gets cameo'd and we get a new team. Infact, if ANY of the squad get cameo'd I will not be pleased

If there is a parallel race to the reapers to ally with

If no characters have to make a heroic sacrifice

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1) ME 2 rendered pointless

2) ME 1 rendered (more) pointless

3) More than 10 personal emails serving no purpose other than to check the "Yep, you did that" column of decisions carried over

4) Any mandatory missions requiring the Hammerhead.

5) There isn't an absolutely awesome reward for staying loyal to your ME LI

6) No truly rewarding extra content if you imported at least an ME 2 career, let alone ME1 & ME2

7) No definitive explanation for why Reapers are so hot for humans they wanna make babies with them.

8) No dinitive explanation for what the frak the Collectors were hoping to accomplish 

9)  Inexplicible space magic that no one notes is odd ie Lazarus Project.

10)  Spending 80% of the game shooting random mercs in the head while the Reapers have their way with the galaxy

Yeah, I'll be putting this game under a microscope before buying.  I'm thinking no preorder bonuses for me

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Bluko wrote...

Marta Rio wrote...

I probably would wait to buy a used copy if I the devs said something like "We've decided to include a new set of characters.  The old ones are still present, and have small roles, but when all is said and done, this is Shepard's story, not the squadmates' story."  If this were the case I'd still be curious how the story ends, but I'd likely have much less emotional investment in it.


I hate to be a downer but I'm 90% sure this is going to be the case in ME3. There may be one or two returning squadmates, but that's just how these games work. ME2 was almost entirely all new characters, what makes you think ME3 will be different? In ME2 most of the crew is only there for suicide mission and all the squadmates are more or less expendable as bad as that sounds.

I expect they will have significant cameo roles in ME3, sort of like Liara did. But I wouldn't expect much else.


Oh, I'm not saying they all have to be squadmates.  "Significant" cameos are fine, and a LotSB-style mission with each non-returning squadmate would be totally cool with me, as long as such missions fit into the plot well.   I'm sure Bioware can think up ways to include the old squaddies but not treat them like the Virmire Survivor has been treated (up until this point).  But if I hear that they're getting tiny cameos like Wrex and the VS, I might reconsider a purchasing a new copy.

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Two pages and no Liz Lemon. Fail.


Yay, at least someone got the reference!

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Bogsnot1 wrote...

Major:
Multiplayer that detracts from the SP experience.
Whole new bunch of squaddies I have to go out and recruit, and gain their loyalty.
Lazarus Project Mk 2
Normandy SR-3
Interactive space combat that ignores the laws of physics (ie Star Wars/Star Trek style)

Pretty much the same with me though multiplayer wouldn't cause me to not buy the game, it would give me cause for concern and delay a bit on buying it if I don't like the sound of things by the time it's close to release time.  The other things would just be way too jarring to experience again and would cause me to not even get the game at all.

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Excluding it being an MMO(lets get real!) NOTHING will stop me buying it.

NOTHING will stop me playing it..........however......I do not deal with disappointment well.Perhaps it is better to travel hopefully?

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I think that the fact ME1 was a Microsoft only game and never to be released to other consoles made for the whole squad replacement thing being necessary. Now that the PS3 version is out, I'm more confidant that we will have major carry over from ME2 characters. This way you have newcomers to the series being satisfied as well as us longsuffering players being rewarded in a major way. That or they'll have a whole new batch of players pissed off that their favorite characters were left behind.



Having said that, the only thing that would keep me from buying the game would be if they opted for the cookie-cutter enviroments that made up the side missions in ME1, I liked the side missions much more in ME2 very few repeats that made them worth doing,

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Multiplayer I guess.

But honestly, I can't see anything that would stop me from at least playing the game once.