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[Bluko]

Bluko wrote...


Stick to coulds, possiblys, and likelys, please.  The best any of us can do is hypothesize.  It does not matter who has more evidence in their favor or the stronger logical arguments.

I mean honestly.  There's a difference between lowering expectations and acting superior.

[/lecture]

It works for Harbinger... I ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL OF THE PLOT!

Yes I know I should not say anything is "certain". Just think of me as an airbag. Do I really help? Maybe. Am I'm annoying? Heck yeah.

If only you knew the power of pessimistic side! See I can only be pleasantly surprised at this point. If I find out Garrus, Tali, Liara, Ashley/Kaidan are on the team again I'll be like M. Bison: "YES! YES!"

But some folks here are too hopeful IMO. If you really want to be an optimist fine by me. Just be willingly to accept the fact that us nay-sayers may be right and also see why it's not so bad. Thing is if we do turn out to be right the only thing people on this forum are likely going to do is kick and scream like babies given the huge amount of character fanboyism. Even more so then usual. As Mordin says:" Implications... unpleasant."

I would like the forums to remain somewhat civil before ME3. I'd rather not see this everyday before ME3 is out: "OMG BIOWARE SAID NO GARRUS OR TALI! YOU SUCK FOREVER BIOWARE!!!"



Seriously it'd be worse then "Is T.I.M. teh Shadowbroker?" threads.

Modifié par Bluko, 18 février 2011 - 05:02 .

[Asch Lavigne]

Really stupid Illusive Man twists. Like that he is a rogue reaper or a surviving Prothean.
Or that I have to work for Cerberus again.

And yeah, multiplayer.

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 19 février 2011 - 03:33 .

[AdmiralCheez]

@Bluko: Yes, I understand your intentions. However, I am more inclined to agree with people when they do not insist they are right and that everyone else is either naive or stupid. I'm not expecting everyone back (that'd be ridiculous), and I'm sure an all-new squad wouldn't be horrible if the old boys had decent cameos and the new kids were at least equal in awesomeness. However, with the return of Anders to DA2, I think I'm entitled to a teaspoon of hope every once in a while.



But seriously, you're like a saint when compared to Zulu and Elite Midget (plus a few others), and your eloquence and humility made it so. Don't ruin that awesome thing you have going by insisting you know THE TRUTH and have THE FACTS and all that blah-de-blah.



YES, I am telling people on the internet TO BE NICE.



I AM MOST CERTAINLY DELUSIONAL.

[snakeboy86]

2 things would kill the game, many have said it but i also agree, making all the loyalty and recruting missions seem pointless by making new squad mates...and multiplayer, i've seen firsthand what happens to single player game gets multi... Bioshock 2

[chapa3]

Not having a scene in which Shepard/Garrus/Jacob/Conrad say "Hello Ladies" and then proceed to ride a varran/geth armature/elcor backwards.

[MSparkyPants]

Also:



"OMG THE REAPERS ARE HERE, SHEPARD HALP US."

"Alright! The only way to defeat them is to team up with the other races!"

"Kay, but you need to do something for us first."

[SweetTeaholic]

For me:




-Multiplayer: I don’t think I need to expand on that being people already
did so for me. It other words: nothxplz.




-Your choices in ME1 + ME2 were pointless: There are many ways the game
can turn out with all the paths you can take and should have an impact in the
last game, good or bad. I don’t want my choices to feel like they were a waste
of time.




-Recruiting a squad…again: ‘Nuff Said. Also plays with my last deal-breaker.
ME2 was all about getting a team together. Mattering on the outcome of the last
mission, if all of your squad survived (or at least most or few did), they
should be with you to the very end (Notably Garrus and Tali being they had such
big roles in both titles that I would be shocked that they don’t return as
squad mates). If they all get the Wrex/Virmare treatment, it would be all for
nothing. Yes, I could see a few moving on or not be around (Samara would go
back to her duties, Thane and/or Mordin pass away, DLC characters likely won’t
come back (would love to see Kasumi return though, but she was one of my favs),
Etc.) as well as some new faces would be fine and dandy, otherwise I would be disappointed.




-Bad Writing: Shepard dying again, recruiting again, Earth only being
the main focus, etc. I could go on and on really. One reason why I love the series
is the story + it’s characters and universe it takes place in.

 

[spacehamsterZH]

MSparkyPants wrote...

Also:

"OMG THE REAPERS ARE HERE, SHEPARD HALP US."
"Alright! The only way to defeat them is to team up with the other races!"
"Kay, but you need to do something for us first."

Yeah, and once you've done that, a representative of each race shows up on the Normandy so that you can give donations. HEY THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA, I'M A GENIUS.

[CaptainZaysh]

How many people bought ME 1 & 2? A million? Two million?

Out of all those people, how many were so affected they hang around on the Bioware forums talking about the franchise between games? A few hundred?

You guys would have an easier time convincing me night were day than convincing me you are not going to buy ME3 even if it turns out to be a FPS featuring Marcus Fenix and Soap McTavish as squadmates. YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BUY IT. I know it, you know it, Bioware knows it.  This whole thread is an empty threat.

Modifié par CaptainZaysh, 18 février 2011 - 12:39 .

[Abispa]

Ashley walks into the shower and there's Shepard, and it's all been a dream. And CaptainZaysh, I agree that it's certain that I'm going to buy it, but I'm sure there are lots of people who would quickly return it and spread some vicious word of mouth to potential buyers about it, including many Gamestop employees who are gamers themselves and carry a lot of weight with their customers (I'm always amazed how they can complain about the products they're selling). Of course, there are going to be those fans who'll defend it no matter what and make any excuse they can on how it's still a classic (Fable III is an example).

[JRCHOharry]

"Your mum hates Mass Effect 3" promos

[AkiKishi]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

How many people bought ME 1 & 2? A million? Two million?

Out of all those people, how many were so affected they hang around on the Bioware forums talking about the franchise between games? A few hundred?

You guys would have an easier time convincing me night were day than convincing me you are not going to buy ME3 even if it turns out to be a FPS featuring Marcus Fenix and Soap McTavish as squadmates. YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BUY IT. I know it, you know it, Bioware knows it.  This whole thread is an empty threat.

A significant number bought ME2 that did not buy ME1. Which, if the pattern gets repeated , should tell you where the focus for ME3 should go to maximise sales.

Pretty much although what I said about it depending on what else is around the time of release it absolutely true.

[Slayer299]

BobSmith101 wrote...
A significant number bought ME2 that did not buy ME1. Which, if the pattern gets repeated , should tell you where the focus for ME3 should go to maximise sales.
Pretty much although what I said about it depending on what else is around the time of release it absolutely true.

So you're saying that you feel the ME1 choices will probably be more minimalised than they already were in 2? Yay <_<

[Bourne Endeavor]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

How many people bought ME 1 & 2? A million? Two million?

Out of all those people, how many were so affected they hang around on the Bioware forums talking about the franchise between games? A few hundred?

You guys would have an easier time convincing me night were day than convincing me you are not going to buy ME3 even if it turns out to be a FPS featuring Marcus Fenix and Soap McTavish as squadmates. YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BUY IT. I know it, you know it, Bioware knows it.  This whole thread is an empty threat.

Go sell that argument to Square Enix, who lost millions after Final Fantasy XIV bombed for being a complete mess. Their attempt at a movie also blew up in their face for precisely the same reason. If Mass Effect 3 announced Multiplayer, you better believe it would effect sales. Whether in a positive or negative fashion remains to be seen.

BobSmith101 wrote...

A significant number bought ME2 that did not buy ME1. Which, if the pattern gets repeated , should tell you where the focus for ME3 should go to maximise sales.

Pretty much although what I said about it depending on what else is around the time of release it absolutely true.

While technically correct. The last sales chart displayed indicated Mass Effect 2 had only marginally outsold its predecessor, at least in comparison to other successful sequels. Granted, this was preceding the PS3 release.

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 18 février 2011 - 01:32 .

[AkiKishi]

Slayer299 wrote...

So you're saying that you feel the ME1 choices will probably be more minimalised than they already were in 2? Yay <_<

Anything outside the key ones more than likely yes. A lot of the stuff that carries over to ME2 is really not important to the big picture. The same is true of ME2.

[AkiKishi]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

Go sell that argument to Square Enix, who lost millions after Final Fantasy XIV bombed for being a complete mess. Their attempt at a movie also blew up in their face for precisely the same reason. If Mass Effect 3 announced Multiplayer, you better believe it would effect sales. Whether in a positive or negative fashion remains to be seen.

.

FFXIV is an MMPORG different fanbase to the other FF's. Not really a suprise at all. I can't say I cared much for XIII myself either, but it apparently did well enough to warrant an X-2 type sequel. I was not suggesting ME3 go multiplayer. Rather I was suggesting that any concesions would be better in favour of the general market as opposed to the more "vocal" fans.

I own every FF game , except the MMPORGs. Not saying I'm typical , but thats just my example.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 18 février 2011 - 01:54 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

I feel like it's all been said and done by this point, but to emphasize a few things, I will chime in:

• Multiplayer (I can't stress this one enough).
• ME1 and ME2 choices to mean little to nothing.
• Cheap, exposition-less story filled with plotholes.
• No returning squadmates.

[Therefore_I_Am]

Did they not say they wouldn't include multiplayer in ME3? I couldve sworn some dev said there wouldn't be... unless my memory is playing tricks.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Did they not say they wouldn't include multiplayer in ME3? I couldve sworn some dev said there wouldn't be... unless my memory is playing tricks.

They did; however, it was a moderator who said so, not a BioWare developer/employee. Therefore, we can't take that for granted.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 18 février 2011 - 02:41 .

[AkiKishi]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...
They did; however, it was a moderator who said so, not a BioWare developer/employee. Therefore, we can't take that for granted.

How would you include multiplayer anyway ? It's Shepards story and only one person can be Shepard. That kind of limits the roles of the other players unless you have "drop in" play that lets someone take control of an NPC for combat.

I don't seriously think the time frame is anywhere near long enough to make those changes.

[Therefore_I_Am]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Did they not say they wouldn't include multiplayer in ME3? I couldve sworn some dev said there wouldn't be... unless my memory is playing tricks.

They did; however, it was a moderator who said so, not a BioWare developer/employee. Therefore, we can't take that for granted.

Don't community managers on major game forums have somewhat of a connection to developers? Especially if that forum belongs to the company itself?

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 18 février 2011 - 02:47 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Did they not say they wouldn't include multiplayer in ME3? I couldve sworn some dev said there wouldn't be... unless my memory is playing tricks.

They did; however, it was a moderator who said so, not a BioWare developer/employee. Therefore, we can't take that for granted.

Don't moderators on major game forums have somewhat of a connection to developers? Especially if that forum belongs to the company itself?

They certainly do, but we still can't say anything for sure unless BioWare officials give us their word.