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[Shepard Lives]

Wishpig wrote...

Once people actually play the game and get to know Varric's personality and history in more depth, then I'll be cool with all this crazy fangirl obsession. Until then I won't be.

Oh, I think we've been told quite a bit about him. Same about Isabela. Fenris, for instance, is much more of a blank slate. And don't get me started on the painful lack of Merrill info.

/opinion

Modifié par Shepard Lives, 15 février 2011 - 02:35 .

[Wishpig]

Shepard Lives wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

Once people actually play the game and get to know Varric's personality and history in more depth, then I'll be cool with all this crazy fangirl obsession. Until then I won't be.

Oh, I think we've been told quite a bit about him. Same about Isabela. Fenris, for instance, is much more of a blank slate. And don't get me started on the painful lack of Merrill info.

/opinion

I keep using Sten as an example, cause he is one hell of a good example. We knew, I would guess, the same amount about Sten as we do Varric. Maybe a little less. Maybe not.

The forums thought they had him pegged. A proud, brave, warrior. I think he was an awesome character, but he was a much bigger jerk than anyone would have guessed. He lost allot of fans...

[Xewaka]

Wishpig wrote...
I keep using Sten as an example, cause he is one hell of a good example. We knew, I would guess, the same amount about Sten as we do Varric. Maybe a little less. Maybe not.
The forums thought they had him pegged. A proud, brave, warrior. I think he was an awesome character, but he was a much bigger jerk than anyone would have guessed. He lost allot of fans...

I must have played a different game because Sten was awesome. And he was nowhere near a jerk to me.

[Wishpig]

Xewaka wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
I keep using Sten as an example, cause he is one hell of a good example. We knew, I would guess, the same amount about Sten as we do Varric. Maybe a little less. Maybe not.
The forums thought they had him pegged. A proud, brave, warrior. I think he was an awesome character, but he was a much bigger jerk than anyone would have guessed. He lost allot of fans...

I must have played a different game because Sten was awesome. And he was nowhere near a jerk to me.

You must have missed the part where I said he was awesome... and once you won him over he was a pretty cool dude. But man... I remember the hate threads after DA:O's release. And he dropped steeply in popularity polls after the game came out.

[Xewaka]

Wishpig wrote...
You must have missed the part where I said he was awesome... and once you won him over he was a pretty cool dude. But man... I remember the hate threads after DA:O's release. And he dropped steeply in popularity polls after the game came out.

Considering the average wit of the regular forum poster, I tend to ignore that kind of reactions, as I'm afraid I'd get dumber by association.

And then Bioware panders to them with the LI choices. *Long suffering sigh*

[Herr Uhl]

Xewaka wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
I keep using Sten as an example, cause he is one hell of a good example. We knew, I would guess, the same amount about Sten as we do Varric. Maybe a little less. Maybe not.
The forums thought they had him pegged. A proud, brave, warrior. I think he was an awesome character, but he was a much bigger jerk than anyone would have guessed. He lost allot of fans...

I must have played a different game because Sten was awesome. And he was nowhere near a jerk to me.

I think that most of it came from him saying "females can't be warriors", which is surprising given his backstory.

[Shepard Lives]

Xewaka wrote...


And then Bioware panders to them with the LI choices. *Long suffering sigh*

Now you're just being a demagogue. It's not like Varric is the only deep, interesting character in the game, who got shafted in favour of four cardboard characters just because of his looks. There's really no reason to bash the actual LIs. Except for not liking any of them I guess, but even then accusing Bioware of "pandering" to the fans is just uncalled for.

[Xewaka]

Shepard Lives wrote...

Xewaka wrote...
And then Bioware panders to them with the LI choices. *Long suffering sigh*

Now you're just being a demagogue. It's not like Varric is the only deep, interesting character in the game, who got shafted in favour of four cardboard characters just because of his looks. There's really no reason to bash the actual LIs. Except for not liking any of them I guess, but even then accusing Bioware of "pandering" to the fans is just uncalled for.

It's not demagogy, it's just frustration. Two out of two characters that get the shaft were the ones I found the most interesting and appealing.
Still, I'll stop now. A night of sleep haven't helped clearing the mind, no need to take it over the Varric thread.

Modifié par Xewaka, 15 février 2011 - 03:04 .

[Russalka]

At least both Aveline and Varric fans shoved their foot in the doorway before it closed. There still is a strong fanbase for something alternative, besides the conventionally beautiful people and popular romance archetypes. These latter terms I still find annoying to use, because I do not wish to think of those two companions as unconventional.

The reaction may have come too late in the production, but this will definitely be something they will consider in the future.

Modifié par Russalka, 15 février 2011 - 03:24 .

[Grimmjow80]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

And the Varric thread rises from the ashes, like a phoenix out of Arizona!

He just won't die!
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[GameBoyish]

Anyone looking forward to hearing MOAR Varric in exactly one week?

I sure am... Can't even sleep. It's 12am here.

And I'm sure, Wishpig, you could start a whole new thread on how much we're wrong about Varric when the game comes out. I'm pretty sure Varric would have many more fans by then. And haters, because you know (you definitely know, because you're so you) the more fans one has the more haters as well... Normal thing.

But here we speak the best of Varric, and based on what Mary has given us (convos and all!) he surely won't pull a Sten (I love Sten though, he's awesomesauce).

EDIT:
From 1.0

Mary Kirby wrote...

Sten and Varric have... minor issues getting along.

Sten: You know they're going to declare you're a cat-girl, don't you?

Varric: I can't blame them, really. I do look sexy with the ears.

Sten: ...You encourage them?

Varric: Stretch, Stretch... I just like to get people talking. Makes everything more fun, you know?

Sten: Parshaara. Where did that writer leave the cookies?

From 2.0

Mary Kirby wrote...

Varric: ...but then the bandit leader lunged past Hawke and stabbed me right in the heart!
"No!" shouted Hawke. "Hang on, Varric!"
And
I looked up at Hawke, and with my last breath, I started to say, "Tell
my brother..." but I was stopped by the blood in my throat. And I
breathed my last.

Cassandra: *Icy stare*

Varric: What?

Cassandra: You died?

Varric: Hawke was really torn up about it.

Cassandra: Dwarf, for the last time, stop these ridiculous lies!

Varric: *Long -suffering sigh* FIne, fine. I didn't die. Really, you have no sense of the dramatic whatsoever.

Look at the Varric snark.

Also, I think Gaider hinted on the Anders abomination secks here... It's weird.

Modifié par TriviaAeducan, 15 février 2011 - 04:54 .

[Wishpig]

TriviaAeducan wrote...

But here we speak the best of Varric, and based on what Mary has given us (convos and all!) he surely won't pull a Sten (I love Sten though, he's awesomesauce).

I suppose the only way I see him turning fans off in droves, is if he turns out to be the cliche' bioware betrayer. You know. That one character in nearly every bioware game who totally screws you over.

Although DA:O actually had more than one...

[tmp7704]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

So, are we supposed to avidly support Varricmance for DA3, and hope that it comes true? Because I'm down for that. Love-Interest or not, Varric remains one very, very fine dwarven craft!

Tbh i hope DA3 will be as disjointed from DA2 as DA2 is from DAO. Varric is Kirkwall dwarf and i suspect one game revolving mostly around that place is very much enough for me to get a lifetime-worth fill of it. Or of Hawkes, for that matter.

Cassandra doesn't live in Kirkwall so it makes more sense for her to re-appear elsewhere (especially if say, DA3 takes place around her native lands) but Varric... i dunno, not really. I'd just rather trust the writers to have in them the ability to come up with more than one interesting dwarf. Which overall would be preferable, imo 

[GameBoyish]

Here's the thing Wishpig, if Varric betrays Hawke in DA2. I will send you 100 Ringgit, okay?



Gimme your bank account number, and pin number.

[Wishpig]

TriviaAeducan wrote...

Here's the thing Wishpig, if Varric betrays Hawke in DA2. I will send you 100 Ringgit, okay?

Gimme your bank account number, and pin number.

It's a deal! If Varric betrays Hawke, you gotta pay up!

[Nova-FoV]

Pfft. No way. I can't imagine Varric being the traitor. I do have reasons behind that, but I'm too lazy to actually write them. So. Instead you can peg me as the hopelessly optimistic and faithful fangirl who knows little about Varric but still says he won't do it.

[Gilsa]

@Wishpig -- Varric is just the poster boy for dwarven fandom. If there are people that only like Varric because of his chesty looks, by all means, let them come! Let Varric be to Dragon Age what Isaiah Mustafa was for Old Spice commercials! WE SHALL REAP THE REWARDS.

[Hedera]

Nova-FoV wrote...

Pfft. No way. I can't imagine Varric being the traitor. I do have reasons behind that, but I'm too lazy to actually write them. So. Instead you can peg me as the hopelessly optimistic and faithful fangirl who knows little about Varric but still says he won't do it.

And if he does? /hypotheticalquestion

I think that all this speculation is fine as long as we realize it is just that.  Varric's withdrawal from LI candidacy may have soured my impression of LadyHawke's options, but that means little in reference to the game as a whole.  I think speculation is perfectly fine, and I rather enjoy the wacky, crazy, TOTALLY AWESOME stuff that comes out of this thread and its precursors, but I personally am going to wait for the game to come out before making assumptions that I post on the internet.  That said, Varric is still adorable and I want to be his best friend forever.  Forever. 

[Wishpig]

Nova-FoV wrote...

Pfft. No way. I can't imagine Varric being the traitor. I do have reasons behind that, but I'm too lazy to actually write them. So. Instead you can peg me as the hopelessly optimistic and faithful fangirl who knows little about Varric but still says he won't do it.

Ya I don't think it will happen... but it is a possibility... albiet very slight imo.

[Calla S]

Dhiro wrote...

Russalka wrote...
I tried to be as reasonable as I could in various fan threads, but I ended up as a petty, evil and whining sex maniac.

But the Varric thread tends to be a sanctuary.

We love evil and whining sex maniacs, just ask Calla.

I love you, too, Dhiro.

Just popping in to say hello in the new thread. Probably won't be hanging around as much anymore. Hope everything goes alright and stuff. Spread the Varric love, be excellent to each other, etc.

[Shepard Lives]

Calla S wrote...

Just popping in to say hello in the new thread. Probably won't be hanging around as much anymore. Hope everything goes alright and stuff. Spread the Varric love, be excellent to each other, etc.

D:

Modifié par Shepard Lives, 15 février 2011 - 06:19 .

[Calla S]

Shepard Lives wrote...
D:

It makes me sad.  I'll still be around, just not much on the forums unless new info comes out. I'll be back after the 8th, though. You guys can't keep me out for any longer than that~

[Patriciachr34]

Yaaa! New Varric thread!  A safe place to come and cuddle in dwarfy goodness (gushes just for Wishpig).

I actually look forward to finding out if Varric is as suave as he appears to be.  He could be one of those slimely salesmen you meet every once in awhile, but I have this sneaking suspicion that is not the case.  I have no doubts that there is a dark side to Varric.  It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

[lv12medic]

Ah!  Single digit page numbers!

Well... single digit page numbers in Volume 3 of the Chronicles of Varric.

I'm just watching the time go by until the Demo.  All I know is if you like the game, Varric is awesome because he's telling the story.  If you don't like the game, you can't  blame Varric because it is Hawke's fault for not being an interesting enough character.  Varric <3's plausable deniability.

[Dhiro]

Calla S wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

Russalka wrote...
I tried to be as reasonable as I could in various fan threads, but I ended up as a petty, evil and whining sex maniac.

But the Varric thread tends to be a sanctuary.

We love evil and whining sex maniacs, just ask Calla.

I love you, too, Dhiro.

I knew you would understand, honey <3