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1)  What is the damn deal with goofy fantasy armor that leaves very important places completely unprotected?

2)  Why does the criminal say "Yes" when Tallis asks "You're god here's called Andraste, right?"

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:05 .


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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

What is the damn deal with goofy fantasy armor that leaves very important places completely unprotected?


Fantasy characters are able to take a lot more damage than RL humans and have plot armor to protect them. The covering of "vital body parts" is, thus, a secondary concern to appearance. (And fanservice.)

Modifié par thats1evildude, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:10 .


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Blah.

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...
2)  Why does the criminal say "Yes" when Tallis asks "You're god here's called Andraste, right?"


I could be wrong on this, but I'd wager it is similar to how Christians will call Christ "God" instead of "the son of God", or how other religions when a human is lifted up they become gods as well.

It's only really confusing if you think strictly from a monotheistic POV.

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MerinTB wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
2)  Why does the criminal say "Yes" when Tallis asks "You're god here's called Andraste, right?"


I could be wrong on this, but I'd wager it is similar to how Christians will call Christ "God" instead of "the son of God", or how other religions when a human is lifted up they become gods as well.

It's only really confusing if you think strictly from a monotheistic POV.



It's the first time, after two entire games, that the distinction between teh Maker and His Bride is not made exceedingly clear.

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

MerinTB wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
2)  Why does the criminal say "Yes" when Tallis asks "You're god here's called Andraste, right?"


I could be wrong on this, but I'd wager it is similar to how Christians will call Christ "God" instead of "the son of God", or how other religions when a human is lifted up they become gods as well.

It's only really confusing if you think strictly from a monotheistic POV.

It's the first time, after two entire games, that the distinction between teh Maker and His Bride is not made exceedingly clear.


You can nitpick.  There's an Andraste cult.  Her ashes can heal.  The Chantry worships her, like Christianity worships Christ, over "the Maker" / God.

Again, you kind of have to come from a monotheistic position to really have a problem with this.  Catholocism would be a pantheon, with the Trinity, Mary, and all the Saints - but they feel the need to be monotheistic and therefore it's three-in-one God and all those raised up?  Saints, not gods nor demi-gods.

Maybe I'm weird, but I drew the Andraste / Christ comparison the WHOLE game.

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MerinTB wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

MerinTB wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
2)  Why does the criminal say "Yes" when Tallis asks "You're god here's called Andraste, right?"


I could be wrong on this, but I'd wager it is similar to how Christians will call Christ "God" instead of "the son of God", or how other religions when a human is lifted up they become gods as well.

It's only really confusing if you think strictly from a monotheistic POV.

It's the first time, after two entire games, that the distinction between teh Maker and His Bride is not made exceedingly clear.


You can nitpick.  There's an Andraste cult.  Her ashes can heal.  The Chantry worships her, like Christianity worships Christ, over "the Maker" / God.

Again, you kind of have to come from a monotheistic position to really have a problem with this.  Catholocism would be a pantheon, with the Trinity, Mary, and all the Saints - but they feel the need to be monotheistic and therefore it's three-in-one God and all those raised up?  Saints, not gods nor demi-gods.

Maybe I'm weird, but I drew the Andraste / Christ comparison the WHOLE game.


Who didn't?  She's an amalgam of a range of different prophets and martyrs.  That's not the point. 

This is literally the first time anyone in the games that a character has conflated "Andraste" with "God" or "The Maker". 

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It's not worth arguing about.

The bit bothers you. I don't find it odd in the least.

End of discussion.

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The weird thing is, the first time I walked into the Kirkwall Chantry, I thought that giant statue was of the Maker. But it's actually Andraste.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:44 .


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MerinTB wrote...

It's not worth arguing about.

The bit bothers you. I don't find it odd in the least.

End of discussion.



Cool.

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I guess you don't argue theology with the lady with a knife at your throat.

As for the episode, I don't see any reason to care about Tallis or anyone else in this.

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As for the episode, I don't see any reason to care about Tallis or anyone else in this.



Explain?

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Explain?


So far the cast seem universally unsympathetic, with the main character being apparently a murderer who works on behalf of a cult which wants to enslave Thedas.  I don't really see any reason to care who lives or dies.

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Very great, just as I expected. So there is a new episode every Tuesday, then? I hope they extend them by a few minutes. It felt like it went by so quick. Can't wait for the next episode, though.

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Wulfram wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Explain?


So far the cast seem universally unsympathetic, with the main character being apparently a murderer who works on behalf of a cult which wants to enslave Thedas.  I don't really see any reason to care who lives or dies.


So sit back and watch the story, then. 

Is this another one of those "Proper Way to Write a Story" things? 

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Well, I'm not going to abandon it based on just one episode. But if I don't start caring about the characters in it then I doubt I'll watch it all that long.

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The templar is the best. But his armor no.
The qunari need more postproduction, but they are so charming.

Modifié par ladyofpayne, 13 octobre 2011 - 06:19 .


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I have to wonder if there's anyone at Bioware cringing at what's becoming of their creation. When I played DA:O, I thought of Thedas as an adult fantasy world on par with that of the witcher or the song of ice and fire. That's no longer the case. I have little interest in silly girls trying too hard to be cute; in the kind world I liked to think dragon age was set she would have been swifly decapitated - if she was very lucky. Clearly I was wrong and I 'm quickly losing interested in anything da related. Just making this comment here in the remote chance someone at EA or Bioware is in the least bit concerned about what they 're doing.

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I've always liked Felicia Day, but I wasn't particularly impressed with this. It seemed somehow more shallow than the stuff she usually does, and the Qunari looked especially terrible. Hopefully it gets better.

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Jaykus wrote...

I have to wonder if there's anyone at Bioware cringing at what's becoming of their creation. When I played DA:O, I thought of Thedas as an adult fantasy world on par with that of the witcher or the song of ice and fire. That's no longer the case. I have little interest in silly girls trying too hard to be cute; in the kind world I liked to think dragon age was set she would have been swifly decapitated - if she was very lucky. Clearly I was wrong and I 'm quickly losing interested in anything da related. Just making this comment here in the remote chance someone at EA or Bioware is in the least bit concerned about what they 're doing.


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So I just watched Redemption. I felt like it was a fan-film with a slightly higher budget. Never mind the horrible fight choreography and Qunari makeup. It really wasn't that good. What is happening to the Dragon Age franchise? Why is it so cartoony now? I liked Origins' more realistic style.

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I loved it, myself. I thought it captured the tone of the games nicely, right down to the copious blood spray. I can only assume that people complaining about the production values have (a) never seen a web series, because this is one of the best looking ones I've seen, or (B) weren't fans of Xena/Hercules, because the production is on par with those, too. This isn't a network TV show with a network budget and I honestly don't know why anyone would expect it to look like one.

It was a very fun piece of gaming brought to life, though, with a charming and talented lead and good acting over all. Can't wait for the next installment.

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...



2)  Why does the criminal say "Yes" when Tallis asks "You're god here's called Andraste, right?"



well if she is the makers wife dont that kinda make her a god/godess?

kinda like a king and queen you can call either of them my liege

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Always the web series and Xena argument. It's been years since I watched Xena and Hercules and didn't find them too bad either - with the understanding that they were for kids. I didn't expect anything particularly gritty or any thought provoking morality questions. Thankfully noone had added ridiculous blood sprays in an effort to pass them off as adult.

And though I don't have any web series in mind, I can give as example several small budget productions that I didn't feel insulted watching, with serious enough material and no need to stick boobs in my face to get my attention.

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Wrong thread...

Modifié par slimgrin, 19 octobre 2011 - 02:22 .