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[Aldaris951]

If you read the new mini storys on a sticky thread in this forum you will find out that anders is confirmed to be alive reguardless if he died in awakening, thats fine in asense since you could argue Justice revived him when they merged.

HOWEVER in my playthrough as a mage i didnt need anders so i let the templars take him away, Justice was in my party all through awakening but anders was given to the templers so it was impossible for them to meet.

Mini story also confirms that anders joined the wardens when I give him to the templers. Also making anders a grey warden was a choice, you didnt have to make him a grey warden even if he was in party.

So bioware has made a cannon choice for anders, Bioware said that they wont make cannon choices in the game, Yet no matter what choices effected anders, They were pointless because theres now a cannon choice that bioware have made.

it was like in origins if you killed wyne she would still show up in awakening.

Bioware learn from mass effect 2, if a character dies in mass effect 1 that character stays dead throughout the series, so i dont understand why you feel the need to remove our choices when thats one of the major factors about dragon age.

It wouldnt of been hard to of counted for the choices to anders, as i said there were really only 3 outcomes to the character.



Either he dies, Gets taken away by templers or you save him from templers but dont recruit him then he leaves.



So those 3 choices right there are ignored and bioware have made 1 cannon choice and that was he joined the wardens and justice merged with him.

Modifié par Aldaris951, 16 février 2011 - 02:00 .

[Taleroth]

Impossible for them to meet? Truly, genuinely impossible? Like, Justice had his legs cut off immediately after Awakening and was sealed into the corpse so that he could never return to the Fade?

Modifié par Taleroth, 16 février 2011 - 01:34 .

[Zanallen]

Anders is an expert at escaping the Templars. It isn't hard to think he may have done so again and who knows whether or not he met up with Justice or maybe a different spirit of Justice somewhere else.

[Dr. Nexas]

He escaped from the Templars again and they met later. Simple

[Nimpe]

The wynne thing is a glitch.

[Albatroz]

Please limit all Anders discussion to the Official Anders Thread.

[Cuthlan]

When you allow for player choice, you run the risk of eventually ignoring the continuity of the small percentage of players that take certain choices.



In other words: Sorry you made the wrong choice. Anders is awesome.

[Aldaris951]

Even if anders escaped, Justice was in my party the whole time. So its still impossible for them to meet.

[TJPags]

1.  It;s entirely possible for them to meet AFTER the events in Awakening.

2.  You're surprised about this?  Epilogue slides are meaningless, after all.

[Reaverwind]

Dr. Nexas wrote...

He escaped from the Templars again and they met later. Simple

Explain his joining the Wardens.

[Aldaris951]

Also it confirms in the anders mini story that the warden recruited him and he was at wardens keep, that didnt happen in my game. I mean come on anders only has like 3 outcomes, it wouldnt of been hard for bioware to of made every choice count.

Either he dies, Given to templers or you save him from templers but dont recruit him.

It seems no matter what choice we made, Bioware has made a cannon choice for anders that effects everyone the same.

Thanks to above poster for pointing out that the mini story confirms he joined the wardens.

That means even if you didnt make him a grey warden but saved his life, Bioware ignored all choices and made a cannon one for him.

Modifié par Aldaris951, 16 février 2011 - 01:40 .

[Taleroth]

Aldaris951 wrote...

Even if anders escaped, Justice was in my party the whole time. So its still impossible for them to meet.

Define "whole time."  You only have a party during Awakening.

[Purple People Eater]

I agree, Anders could have just escaped again, so that takes care of him. Remember though, Wynne was also possed by a spirit that was keeping her alive, so you could say that it just brought her back to life if you killed her. Which by the way, if you did kill Wynne, you're just an idiot. She's a sweet old lady for Gods sake.

[andar91]

Seriously, if they want to do something badly enough they'll do it, and I can't get too upset about it. The major choices they'll probably preserve, but the other ones are negligible if they feel that in can serve the plot positively if they mess around with stuff.

[TJPags]

Look, the real problem is these 2 epilogues: The one where Anders dies, and the one where Justice stays with the Wardens for a period of time. No way for Justice to revive Anders with those 2 slides.



Again - epilogue slides are meaningless. Accept, and you will be happier. Not happy, but happier.

[Ethical]

Reaverwind wrote...

Dr. Nexas wrote...

He escaped from the Templars again and they met later. Simple

Explain his joining the Wardens.

He gets conscripted by another warden when he escaped the templars again. Really all these "loop holes" could be filled if you used your imagination.

[Aldaris951]

I love wynne, she was my favourate character except for morrigan, but I did kill wynne in 1 evil playthrough and thats when i noticed she was still alive in awakening



Btw guys the whole point im making out is that bioware have made a cannon choice for anders, It says in the mini story he joined the wardens and is still alive at the end of awakening, that has made all choices effecting anders pointless and that means...



cannon choice, something bioware said they wouldnt do.

[Browneye_Vamp84]

speaking of killing off characters.. funny how if you dont go along with Morrigans ritual and you slay the Archdemon you die .. but you can import your character from Origins to Awakening... and it makes no sense but it works XD

[Browneye_Vamp84]

TJPags wrote...

Look, the real problem is these 2 epilogues: The one where Anders dies, and the one where Justice stays with the Wardens for a period of time. No way for Justice to revive Anders with those 2 slides.

Again - epilogue slides are meaningless. Accept, and you will be happier. Not happy, but happier.

[Sticky Controller]

Not this stuff again >.>

Who cares? Bioware doesn't need to "learn" anything. They have accounted for everything and this is where they want to take their story. I for one support them.

[Tinxa]

I'd rather that if they feel they might use a certain char again, that they make that char unkillable in the first game.

Being able to kill off every companion just for the sake of "choice" is a little too much, especially since some of those companions then come back with some sort of explanation.

I don't object to them "reviving" dead characters as it doesn't bother me that much, I'd just rather see some companions being a must have and being closely integrated with the main plot rather that having to make the game story work even if you never meet any of them or kill them the second you see them. I felt much strongly about Alistair and Morrigan that mattered a lot for the plot than for the other companions in DAO.

Modifié par Tinxa, 16 février 2011 - 01:48 .

[Vicious]

Bioware doesn't need to cater to every bizarre playthrough.

[Aigyl]

Purple People Eater wrote...

I agree, Anders could have just escaped again, so that takes care of him. Remember though, Wynne was also possed by a spirit that was keeping her alive, so you could say that it just brought her back to life if you killed her. Which by the way, if you did kill Wynne, you're just an idiot. She's a sweet old lady for Gods sake.

Beneath that persona of kindness and elderly love was a pure incarnation of preachy self-inflated evil, I tell you! Evil, I say!

*cough*


Anyways, yes it sucks that not every single decision can be accounted for, but quite frankly Anders' awesomeness defies epilogue slides.

Perfectly possible he escaped from the templars again and got recruited into the Wardens post-Awakening.

[Ethical]

Browneye_Vamp84 wrote...

speaking of killing off characters.. funny how if you dont go along with Morrigans ritual and you slay the Archdemon you die .. but you can import your character from Origins to Awakening... and it makes no sense but it works XD

It has been addressed that the game changes your choices so its like you did accept the ritual and the warden doesn't die, so it does make sense. 

As for Anders situation in kirkwall being canon: unless anders body was shredded to dust  right in front of your eyes, and a chantry priest exorcised Justice and forever sealed him, It is not cannon. There are ways Anders and justice unite to go to Kirkwall, just use imagination. I mean we are playing an RPG and you will have so much more fun if you exercise your imagination.

[TJPags]

Sticky Controller wrote...

Not this stuff again >.>
Who cares? Bioware doesn't need to "learn" anything. They have accounted for everything and this is where they want to take their story. I for one support them.

I disagree that they accounted for everything.

I agree completely that it is their story, and they'll do whatever they like.

I don't support this, but I accept this.