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[rooky91]

It seems that alot of people here are posting threads on how website X has cancelled their Signature edition for really stupid reasons, such as no longer having it in stock or no longer having it in the database. So this makes me wonder why was this just a Collectors edition for and extra £5/$5?

Do you think the signature edition was a good idea, which was well implemented?
Would you like to see similar things done in the future, with games such as ME3?
Did you preorder it, have you or havn't had it cancelled yet?

[Stanley Woo]

Autolycus wrote...
There are things with DA2 I am very unsure of, things I 'personally' do not like etc etc etc, so I will not buy it until there is more information available, actual real customer reviews and I can then make a 'more' informed decision.
So why would I pre-order something that I wish to wait until is out, before making a decision?

Why would/should we extend the offer past the deadline date just to satisfy your subjective need to be more informed? Jeopardy doesn't wait until you've consulted an encyclopedia or called your friends before answering the Final Jeopardy question. It has a very definite start and end period, during which you make your choice. A store is under no obligation to keep the tills open for you past their operating hours. Businesses are not obligated to honour coupons past the stated expiry date.

But I do understand what you're both saying, I could pre-order, have all bonuses and be a happy bunny. But thats dependent on me just trusting a few biased magazine reviews, and a titbit of info on here, along with as has been discussed, blind faith in Bioware.
Again, from what I have seen of DA2 so far, I'm turned off, so wish to wait for more information. so again, why is that wrong?

it's not wrong. but by the same token, you could hem and haw all you like and wait for the information you require. but the limited time special offer will expire in the process. When do you take responsibility for choosing not to take advantage of the deal while it's being offered?

[Stanley Woo]

Autolycus wrote...
But let's take my own personal 'financial' situation shall we? I can 'save/use' approximately £20 a month after I have paid for all my other monthly expenses. So excuse me for wanting to make damn sure that approximately a sixth of my 'leisure' money is not wasted.

Sorry, your personal financial situation is ultimately none of our concern (and frankly, none of our business), nor does it give you any special status to dictate/alter the rules of the special, limited time offer.

Or maybe it's my own personal fault (taking 'resonsibility') that I don't live near where I work and travelling costs are extortionate, and that I am currently unable to get either a better paying job or one closer to home, or that my government is strangling the economy, or maybe even it's my fault I live in the wrong country.

Your work situation, living situation, political situation, and financial situation are ultimately none of our concern (and frankly, none of our business), nor does any of it give you any special status to dictate/alter the rules of the special, limited time offer.

EDIT: i like Black_Warden's cookie analogy and Wolf_in_the_meadow's post, even if it's a little snarky.

Not everyone is fortunate enough to just be able to buy what they want, when they want. So again, why should someone be penalised for wanting to make as sure as they are able to, they do actually want something?

Sorry, maybe I'm a bit thick (I think that's the right term), but what precisely does any of this have to do with the limited time, special offer expiring before you make your decision? At what point did this become our problem? Not to dismiss or make light of whatever living or personal situation you're experiencing, of course. This is purely about four or five months' worth of time, during which you took no action, and now you're complaining about your lack of action.

i then either suck it up like man and 'buy' all these items etc, or wait till you make a UE (if you make one)....but that does not change my original argument.

You seem to sum it all up very nicely, which makes me wonder: what was your original argument, then? You seem to "get it" just fine. What, precisely, is the complaint/issue?

(And please don't make it about big bad corporation daring to make money or having the right to make its own business decisions or the consumer somehow not having a choice, because this thread (and others like it) have put all of those arguments to bed. thank you.)

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 16 février 2011 - 10:44 .

[John Epler]

crimzontearz wrote...

Morroian wrote...

Yeah but its Bioware people talking to us not EA.

yeah but  they report to EA not to other Bioware employees

You are aware, of course, that no one on the development team is required to respond to threads. We come on these boards of our own free will and often in our own free time. Not to mention, none of us are obligated to respond to any post or topic if we don't want to. So to suggest that we're just repeating the EA company line - well, frankly, I don't need to post at all, and if I'm posting something it's because I want to clarify a point. If I'm not allowed to comment on something, or if I don't have something to add, I just won't post.

So if you're getting a response from a developer, as far as we're aware it's 100% true. We're not in the business of lying, particularly when it's relating to part of our job that's entirely optional. I'm not about to sacrifice my integrity just because someone on the forums is upset about a decision we've made.

[Stanley Woo]

coomber wrote...
First, thank you for posting in this thread. It's good to see Bioware's stance on this, as most of us who disapprove of this marketing had laid the blame for this entirely at EA's feet. Now we know nobody twisted Bioware's arm.

Actually, you don't know that, as I haven't said anything about it one way or the other. I'm responding only to the arguments put forth by people to justify their feelings and/or complaints.

To respond to your analogy, you are quite right - a store is not obligated to stay open beyond its hours. But it *chooses* the hours it stays open for - and Bioware decided to shut up shop months before the game was released. And it is that *choice* that we feel was unfair.

This is a perfectly fair complaint. Not one that anyone can do anything about at this point, but fair and succinct.

Edit: Reading that back, I can see a predictable response coming my way in that I chose not to pre-order. No - I was not aware of the pre-order offer until the day it ended, otherwise I would have put my money down.

i have always been a proponent of consumer choice. It is your power to choose, and you should take ownership of it, regardless of whether you pre-ordered or not. Choosing not to purchase something, regardless of the reason, is always allowed.

[Stanley Woo]

Let's all try and keep the confrontational tone to a minimum, please, and maybe give people the benefit of the doubt when reading their posts. Thanks.