So I finally got around to picking up NWN: Diamond, after having been turned off NWN years ago by the OC. So now the community has had a chance to run its course and the results look spectacular. I've only just installed the CEP and played through one of the Premium Modules and now I'm looking for what to do next. I imagine by this point there is a lot of dross as well as a few gems, so hopefully I can benefit from the gaming experience of this forum community.
I'm guessing something fell through with the Premium Modules? Is there no way to get them now? If so that is dissappointing. Aside from those what SP modules do you guys recommend? What is the cream of the crop? I know this question must be asked quite a bit, but I would like to open it up again for some up to date answers please.
What Are The Best SP Modules
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Posté 16 février 2011 - 03:42
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No, currently there is no way to get hold of any of the Premium modules that were not included in the Diamond edition, sorry. It sucks and we're all disappointed by that but I guess there's nothing we can do about it.
As for the community made modules, there are too much gems to give any general recommendations, so take the ones I'm going to make with a grain of salt. The community modules also cater to lots of different tastes and playstyles, so it would be easier if you could specify what kind of experiences you're looking for and what's your general taste in RPGs (what do you like about them, what do you hate, what did you find disappointing about the OC, what would have made it better in your opinion etc.).
Anyway, you could start by looking through the lists of Top Rated and/or Hall of Fame modules and see if something catches your eye.
Some random recommendations for now:
Darkness over Daggerford was initially meant to be released as a Premium module, so you might want to check it out.
If you're looking for something epic and story-driven with several roleplay and romance options, a very popular series is the Aielund saga, starting with Act I.
I don't want to overwhelm you with recommendations but keep in mind these are only two options of several dozens or even hundreds. It all depends on what you're looking for.
As for the community made modules, there are too much gems to give any general recommendations, so take the ones I'm going to make with a grain of salt. The community modules also cater to lots of different tastes and playstyles, so it would be easier if you could specify what kind of experiences you're looking for and what's your general taste in RPGs (what do you like about them, what do you hate, what did you find disappointing about the OC, what would have made it better in your opinion etc.).
Anyway, you could start by looking through the lists of Top Rated and/or Hall of Fame modules and see if something catches your eye.
Some random recommendations for now:
Darkness over Daggerford was initially meant to be released as a Premium module, so you might want to check it out.
If you're looking for something epic and story-driven with several roleplay and romance options, a very popular series is the Aielund saga, starting with Act I.
I don't want to overwhelm you with recommendations but keep in mind these are only two options of several dozens or even hundreds. It all depends on what you're looking for.
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Posté 16 février 2011 - 04:05
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Right, to clarify I prefer RPG's that offer up a good story as well as a balanced RP element. Something that allows for different class/race/stat combinations and then utilizes them to good effect. I don't mind a bit of hack and slash, but I prefer small but tactically intense encounters (though a good mass battle is fine). Basically the kind of well-crafted story of BGII along with the tight battles and implementation of character traits in the IWD games.
If I had to list I'd say my biggest problems with the OC were: the meaningless dialogue trees ,the very bare-bones implementation of skills and abilities outside of combat and the entire railroaded plot with a million meaningless speed-bump combat encounters encounters.
Thanks for confirming the situation with the premium modules and for your recommendations. I suppose none of those Premium Modules got sequels either
Either way Darkness over Daggerford looks like a good place to start.
If I had to list I'd say my biggest problems with the OC were: the meaningless dialogue trees ,the very bare-bones implementation of skills and abilities outside of combat and the entire railroaded plot with a million meaningless speed-bump combat encounters encounters.
Thanks for confirming the situation with the premium modules and for your recommendations. I suppose none of those Premium Modules got sequels either
Either way Darkness over Daggerford looks like a good place to start.
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Posté 16 février 2011 - 06:26
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Oups...
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Posté 16 février 2011 - 09:30
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My favs are:
"Almraiven" and "Shadewood" by Fester Pot
The "Prophet" series by Baldecaran
The "Aielund Saga" by Savant
and The "Saleron's Gambit" series by Tiberius209
The Aielund Saga and Saleron's Gambit series are all completed stories. Fester Pot and Baldecaran are still working on new installments of their current series' but what they have completed so far is pretty amazing stuff. Check them out.
"Almraiven" and "Shadewood" by Fester Pot
The "Prophet" series by Baldecaran
The "Aielund Saga" by Savant
and The "Saleron's Gambit" series by Tiberius209
The Aielund Saga and Saleron's Gambit series are all completed stories. Fester Pot and Baldecaran are still working on new installments of their current series' but what they have completed so far is pretty amazing stuff. Check them out.
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Posté 17 février 2011 - 08:47
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A few threads already about it here. And for every one them, I asked to have the "main one" stickied. Since it's probably the first question I would ask if I was new to NWN and to its community, that very community which makes what NWN is, along with the game itself and its creators. But it never worked, so far. I understand it could be conflicting and maybe unfair to some modules designers, but wasn't it one in the former forum...
Shall we try again? One for all?
The Best Module in your opinion is?
Shall we try again? One for all?
The Best Module in your opinion is?
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Posté 19 février 2011 - 09:48
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I agree with the above-mentioned suggestions. If you are interested in an adult-oriented bodice-ripper, I would recommend "A Dance With Rogues." A very well written and gripping mod.
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Posté 19 février 2011 - 03:42
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You should make sure to check out Bubba's module: "Agrenost - Beneath the Cobbles". I'm disappointed in myself for not completing this module. I have always had a good time with it and been very impressed with what I have experienced so far. Real Life always seems to get in the way anymore. That said, I'm going to give it another go tonight!
(Glad I saw your post here Bubba and it reminded me of your module)
(Glad I saw your post here Bubba and it reminded me of your module)
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Posté 20 février 2011 - 10:06
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Sounds good, I'll try those when I get the chance. Two questions: Is it impossible to play Wyvern Crown of Cormyr now, and how many good modules actually make use of mounts?
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Posté 20 février 2011 - 11:12
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Yes, there's no no legal way to play WCoC anymore unless you bought it before support was withdrawn.
I've rarely played a module that had mounts in it and I've never heard of any statistics but I believe some authors of popular modules at some point updated their work to include them and if I'm not mistaken the Aielund saga for example should offer mounts now. The last module I played of which I can still remember it had mounts was "The Amergilus Legacy" by Bardil (sequel to "Murder in Mireford" by the same author).
I've rarely played a module that had mounts in it and I've never heard of any statistics but I believe some authors of popular modules at some point updated their work to include them and if I'm not mistaken the Aielund saga for example should offer mounts now. The last module I played of which I can still remember it had mounts was "The Amergilus Legacy" by Bardil (sequel to "Murder in Mireford" by the same author).
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Posté 21 février 2011 - 12:40
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The Aielund saga for sure.
But, beside the amazing horsing experience I had for the first time in NWN with "Wyvern Crown of Cormyr", I remember Enigma Island 1 - Treasure & Enigma Island 2 - Templars by Proleric, not only for being great modules from a very gentle man, but also a perfect (scripted?) way to handle the use of horses in them. Easier than driving my bike... after a couple of hours.
Including jousts and all...
But for adults...
Check also on Proleric's webbie, there might be even a Part 3 hiding there (and there only!)... along with some interesting screen shots.
But, beside the amazing horsing experience I had for the first time in NWN with "Wyvern Crown of Cormyr", I remember Enigma Island 1 - Treasure & Enigma Island 2 - Templars by Proleric, not only for being great modules from a very gentle man, but also a perfect (scripted?) way to handle the use of horses in them. Easier than driving my bike... after a couple of hours.
Including jousts and all...
But for adults...
Check also on Proleric's webbie, there might be even a Part 3 hiding there (and there only!)... along with some interesting screen shots.
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Posté 21 février 2011 - 01:09
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olivier leroux wrote...
I believe some authors of popular modules at some point updated their work to include them and if I'm not mistaken the Aielund saga for example should offer mounts now.
Sanctum of the Archmage has supported mounts since I updated it for 1.69 compatability a while back. You won't actually find any until near the end of Chapter 2, though, when I introduce the ridable pegasus system that will play a major role in Chapter 3 (for more on that, see here). The only exception in the first two chapters is that if you play a Paladin, you can summon and ride a warhorse when you reach 5th level.
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Posté 21 février 2011 - 02:57
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I prefer DMd play in a PW but I have played a few single player mods.
The Wanderer was very good. I like non-linear game play and this has it yet still maintains a strong story.
The Bastard of Kosigan was fun too.
The Wanderer was very good. I like non-linear game play and this has it yet still maintains a strong story.
The Bastard of Kosigan was fun too.
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Posté 24 février 2011 - 10:43
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All these mods sound great to play. My question is how do i get the mod from the net and onto NWN so i can play it???? im seriously lost and know nothing about this!!
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Posté 25 février 2011 - 12:00
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1. First got to the according page on NWVault where the module files are hosted (if there is no link to the module page of your choice here in this thread, just use the Vault's search function to find it).
2, Download all files that are hosted on the according page or linked to there (either directly by left-clicking on the links or if that doesn't work by right-clicking and choosing "Save Target As" from the menu - sorry if that's obvious to you, I only mention it just in case). Often there's also a readme file with instruction on how to install the modules.
3. If the module itself does not offer any instructions for installation, you do the following (assuming you know how to unzip archived files and how to extract or copy files into folders on your harddrive - if not, please ask):
All files with the extension .mod go into the folder "MODULES" in your NWN folder.
All files with the extension .hak go into the folder "HAK" in your NWN folder.
All files with the extension .bmu go into the folder "MUSIC" in your NWN folder.
All files with the extension .bik go into the folder "MOVIES" in your NWN folder.
All files with the extension .bic go into the folder "LOCALVAULT" in your NWN folder (these are character files, btw, just in case the module provides pre-made characters).
Quite easy actually, once you know how to do it. Hope that helps.
2, Download all files that are hosted on the according page or linked to there (either directly by left-clicking on the links or if that doesn't work by right-clicking and choosing "Save Target As" from the menu - sorry if that's obvious to you, I only mention it just in case). Often there's also a readme file with instruction on how to install the modules.
3. If the module itself does not offer any instructions for installation, you do the following (assuming you know how to unzip archived files and how to extract or copy files into folders on your harddrive - if not, please ask):
All files with the extension .mod go into the folder "MODULES" in your NWN folder.
All files with the extension .hak go into the folder "HAK" in your NWN folder.
All files with the extension .bmu go into the folder "MUSIC" in your NWN folder.
All files with the extension .bik go into the folder "MOVIES" in your NWN folder.
All files with the extension .bic go into the folder "LOCALVAULT" in your NWN folder (these are character files, btw, just in case the module provides pre-made characters).
Quite easy actually, once you know how to do it. Hope that helps.
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Posté 25 février 2011 - 12:11
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hah, once again, my inner scrub is showing. Please show me the way of unzipping/ect also, wtf is with this community expansion pack and how do i apply THAT as well?!?!? thanks oliver!!
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Posté 25 février 2011 - 01:10
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Ok, I suggest you start small then and forget about the Community Expansion Pack (also known as CEP) for now until you're comfortable with the rest.
I suggest you try installing this little community module, The Sunken Shrine of Ahmenkatja by Jesse Sky, just as an example. It doesn't require the CEP or any hak files, you just have to manage downloading the archive file on the Vault page, opening it and extracting the .mod file within into you "MODULES" folder.
1. Click on the link given on the Vault page to download the .rar archive.
2. Assuming your computer uses Windows (XP, Vista or 7), press the Windows key on your keyboard (showing the Windows symbol on it) in combination with the letter "E". This shortcut will open the Windows Explorer. You should now see the directory structure of you harddrive in the left window.
3. Find your "DOWNLOAD" folder and click on it. In the "DOWNLOAD" folder, find the file you just downloaded, "The_Sunken_Shrine_of_Ahmenkatja.rar".
4. Double-click on this .rar file. Chances are you already have a program installed than can open archived files with that extension.
5. If Windows gives you an error message or asks you what program you wish to open this unknown file type with, go to step 6. If it automatically opens the .rar. file for you instead, skip step 6 and continue with step 7.
6. If step 4 didn't work, you need to download and install a free file archiver, e.g. 7-Zip first. Clicking on this link will dowload the 7-Zip installation .exe unto your harddrive. Find this file called "7z920.exe" in your "DOWNLOAD" folder, double-click on it and follow the instructions to install. After that, repeat step 4. In theory, it should work now.
7. Your file archive should now show you the content of the .rar file in a new window: In this case it should only be one file, named "The Sunken Shrine of Ahmenkatja.mod".
8. Click on the window of the Windows Explorer again, find out where your NWN folder is on your harrdrive (e.g. Program Files/NWN), click on it to open it, then open the MODULES folder contained in it.
9. Now switch back to the file archiver window by clicking on it, then move the mouse cursor over "The Sunken Shrine of Ahmenkatja.mod", press the left mouse button and keep it pressed while you move the mouse back to the "MODULES" folder in the Windows Explorer window. Once you let go of the left mouse key, the ,mod file you selected should automatically be extracted to your NWN "MODULES" folder.
10. Now start NWN, in the menu choose "New", then "Other Modules" and see if the window that opens contains a module called "The Sunken Shrine of Ahmenkatja". If so, congratulations, you've just installed your first community module. If you like, you can try to play it now, it's a short story and shouldn't take more than an hour to complete.
This all sounds rather complicated and inconvenient if one takes the time to write it down step by step (or maybe I'm just not good at it, heh) but in any case, it should come quite natural to you once you've done it a few times.
I suggest you try installing this little community module, The Sunken Shrine of Ahmenkatja by Jesse Sky, just as an example. It doesn't require the CEP or any hak files, you just have to manage downloading the archive file on the Vault page, opening it and extracting the .mod file within into you "MODULES" folder.
1. Click on the link given on the Vault page to download the .rar archive.
2. Assuming your computer uses Windows (XP, Vista or 7), press the Windows key on your keyboard (showing the Windows symbol on it) in combination with the letter "E". This shortcut will open the Windows Explorer. You should now see the directory structure of you harddrive in the left window.
3. Find your "DOWNLOAD" folder and click on it. In the "DOWNLOAD" folder, find the file you just downloaded, "The_Sunken_Shrine_of_Ahmenkatja.rar".
4. Double-click on this .rar file. Chances are you already have a program installed than can open archived files with that extension.
5. If Windows gives you an error message or asks you what program you wish to open this unknown file type with, go to step 6. If it automatically opens the .rar. file for you instead, skip step 6 and continue with step 7.
6. If step 4 didn't work, you need to download and install a free file archiver, e.g. 7-Zip first. Clicking on this link will dowload the 7-Zip installation .exe unto your harddrive. Find this file called "7z920.exe" in your "DOWNLOAD" folder, double-click on it and follow the instructions to install. After that, repeat step 4. In theory, it should work now.
7. Your file archive should now show you the content of the .rar file in a new window: In this case it should only be one file, named "The Sunken Shrine of Ahmenkatja.mod".
8. Click on the window of the Windows Explorer again, find out where your NWN folder is on your harrdrive (e.g. Program Files/NWN), click on it to open it, then open the MODULES folder contained in it.
9. Now switch back to the file archiver window by clicking on it, then move the mouse cursor over "The Sunken Shrine of Ahmenkatja.mod", press the left mouse button and keep it pressed while you move the mouse back to the "MODULES" folder in the Windows Explorer window. Once you let go of the left mouse key, the ,mod file you selected should automatically be extracted to your NWN "MODULES" folder.
10. Now start NWN, in the menu choose "New", then "Other Modules" and see if the window that opens contains a module called "The Sunken Shrine of Ahmenkatja". If so, congratulations, you've just installed your first community module. If you like, you can try to play it now, it's a short story and shouldn't take more than an hour to complete.
This all sounds rather complicated and inconvenient if one takes the time to write it down step by step (or maybe I'm just not good at it, heh) but in any case, it should come quite natural to you once you've done it a few times.
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Posté 25 février 2011 - 03:56
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i got as far as DLing and installing 7 zip but it still wont let me open the file as if i had no such program thanks for your help otherwise though you have been very helpful thus far. any ideas as to what now? :/
thanks for your help otherwise though you have been very helpful thus far. any ideas as to what now? :/
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Posté 25 février 2011 - 04:09
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actually, with a little innovation i got This one working THANK YOU SO MUCH THIS IS THE 1ST STEP TO MORE AWSOEM NWN MODS!!!!!!!!
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Posté 25 février 2011 - 04:44
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ok so, i have beat this mod It was..... very basic lol but i liked it none the less i LOLed anyways, i want more no I NEED MORE GIMME MORE!!!!!!!!!!
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Posté 25 février 2011 - 12:00
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Great! If that was helpful, maybe we should put the instructions in a new thread "Installing Modules for Dummies" and get that stickied? What do you think? Anything that's missing or could be improved?
As for you, Koseath, what kind of modules would you prefer? There are so many to choose from ... Would be easier to suggest one if I'd know what it is you're looking for in a module.
As for you, Koseath, what kind of modules would you prefer? There are so many to choose from ... Would be easier to suggest one if I'd know what it is you're looking for in a module.
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Posté 25 février 2011 - 03:20
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Hi everyone, what single-player mod would you recommend me, if I'm looking for dialog-heavy story with consequences of my decissions, with battles challenging, but not insane, preferably with henchmen who have their own opinion on events in game? (Some romance would be nice too, but not necessary.)
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Posté 25 février 2011 - 03:22
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The only mods ive ever really played were the single player campaigns and those side mods that come with nwn diamond. I really liked those campaigns as they were lenghy, had an intrigueing plot, and overall were just very epic imo. I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO FIND A MOD WHICH IS LIKE THESE CAMPAIGNS. Basically i just want an epic story line to follow again, as ive played the campaigns a few to meny times to be considered fresh XD Hope this helps oliver!!
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Posté 25 février 2011 - 04:26
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If you want to try installing CEP 2.3, download and extract this to your main NWN folder and from there run the CEP updater afterwards ("CEP_Update_Test.bat", I guess). Be aware that it will require up to 5 GB of space on your harddrive.
In case you manage to install it, you could try the Aielund Saga linked to in my first post in this thread. That's as epic as it gets. Or if you don't want to install CEP just now, go for the other link, Darkness over Daggerford.
The Bastard of Kosigan series linked to somewhere above could be given as an example for a dialogue heavy module where different decisions lead to different consequences (to a certain extent).
The Sanctum of the Archmage series is very story- and dialogue-oriented, too, and has good combat balance. It's heartily recommended, just keep in mind that the final chapter is still in the making.
Actually, I believe all of the modules mentioned in this thread will fit your preferences, Zirael & Koseath (most good modules would
). Just try any of them that arouses your curiosity.
In case you manage to install it, you could try the Aielund Saga linked to in my first post in this thread. That's as epic as it gets. Or if you don't want to install CEP just now, go for the other link, Darkness over Daggerford.
The Bastard of Kosigan series linked to somewhere above could be given as an example for a dialogue heavy module where different decisions lead to different consequences (to a certain extent).
The Sanctum of the Archmage series is very story- and dialogue-oriented, too, and has good combat balance. It's heartily recommended, just keep in mind that the final chapter is still in the making.
Actually, I believe all of the modules mentioned in this thread will fit your preferences, Zirael & Koseath (most good modules would
). Just try any of them that arouses your curiosity.
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