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[javierabegazo]

It was so heartwrenching seeing Duncan die for the first time, I still couldn't believe it. When I saw the trailers and the sneek peeks I figured Duncan would be your jedi guide throughout the whole game,



Bioware, you guys are just solid gold

[Encard]

Most people might not... but then again, for several of the origins, you're hardly "most people." I'd assume that as a noble or a mage in a world with healing magic, you could probably live to be a fair bit older.  Also, the elves can potentially live quite a bit longer, if memory serves...

Modifié par Encard, 16 novembre 2009 - 03:05 .

[Forumtroll]

Only the Dalish. City elves lost their unnatural life spans.

[Wintermist]

I didn't see the 30 year lifespan as a problem at all. But I would like to have seen some side effects and some more positive effects as well. I'd especially would have liked to see Darkspawn on the minimap since we are supposed to sense them, even if it's only with Alistair in the party.



And with that said, I'd also have liked nearby groups of Darkspawn to sense YOU and come for you. This would have been immersion. Some more attacks on the camps would have been neat too.

[javierabegazo]

Wintermist wrote...

I didn't see the 30 year lifespan as a problem at all. But I would like to have seen some side effects and some more positive effects as well. I'd especially would have liked to see Darkspawn on the minimap since we are supposed to sense them, even if it's only with Alistair in the party.

And with that said, I'd also have liked nearby groups of Darkspawn to sense YOU and come for you. This would have been immersion. Some more attacks on the camps would have been neat too.

THe first time that camp attack happened, And Alistair said that it wasn't safe anymore, I was hoping that the camp area would be different, or that it would be fortified, or SOMETHING! but oh no, they don't learn their lesson...

[Wissenschaft]

Anyone got the words Alistor says during the Joining. It was short but the VA did a great job. Really set the mood with how reverend Alistor says the lines.

[Wissenschaft]

Forumtroll wrote...

Only the Dalish. City elves lost their unnatural life spans.

Actually, all elves have lost their immortality. They lost it when they came into contact with humans. The Dalish elfs are no different from the City Elves, they both live about as long as humans.

[Whanmakt]

Forumtroll wrote...

Only the Dalish. City elves lost their unnatural life spans.

Rather they lost their natural life spans, when they got in contact with the humans or some such. And Zathran is only alive due to a quest.

And i'm trying my damned best to sire new Grey Wardens with Leliana..

Modifié par Whanmakt, 16 novembre 2009 - 07:31 .

[Wintermist]

And what happens if a Grey Warden, immune to the Darkspawn taint produce children? Will the children have a chance for immunity too? I feel Grey Warden should become sterile, just for the sake of not finding loopholes hehe.

[Gill Kaiser]

Grey Wardens clearly aren't sterile, and Morrigan counts on it. According to her, the child also has immunity. Assuming that's not due to the ritual itself, that means that children of Grey Wardens at least have the chance of being immunised to the taint. Then again, that taint could have all sorts of nasty side effects during gestation.



I think I remember reading on this forum somewhere that Grey Wardens find it more difficult to sire children. I really want to find a way to keep the bloodline of King Calenhad alive, but also see my noblewoman on the throne with Alistair! I suppose there will at least be Morrigan's Urthemiel-child to act as heir if Alistair and my character are never able to have their own kids.

[Foxd1e]

Wissenschaft wrote...

Forumtroll wrote...

Only the Dalish. City elves lost their unnatural life spans.

Actually, all elves have lost their immortality. They lost it when they came into contact with humans. The Dalish elfs are no different from the City Elves, they both live about as long as humans.

Actually I spent quite a bit of time chatting it up with both Daelish clans in the game and from what I gathered Daelish elves live longer than humans and city elves. Keeper Lanaya chalked it up to relatively sparse contact with humans. I pretty much tacked the average wild-born Daelish elf lifespan to between 80 and 120 years, again it's just an estimate. If it proves to be accurate however having a 20 year old Daelish elf's lifespan cut down to a mere 30 more years is a definate jip. Also Dwarves seem to be rather long lived as well clocking in at around 100 year lifespans perhaps older.

[Valfreyja]

Foxd1e wrote...

Wissenschaft wrote...

Forumtroll wrote...

Only the Dalish. City elves lost their unnatural life spans.

Actually, all elves have lost their immortality. They lost it when they came into contact with humans. The Dalish elfs are no different from the City Elves, they both live about as long as humans.

Actually I spent quite a bit of time chatting it up with both Daelish clans in the game and from what I gathered Daelish elves live longer than humans and city elves. Keeper Lanaya chalked it up to relatively sparse contact with humans. I pretty much tacked the average wild-born Daelish elf lifespan to between 80 and 120 years, again it's just an estimate. If it proves to be accurate however having a 20 year old Daelish elf's lifespan cut down to a mere 30 more years is a definate jip. Also Dwarves seem to be rather long lived as well clocking in at around 100 year lifespans perhaps older.

Yeah they kept pointing out that they lived longer because they had so little contact with humans. Though I'm starting to wonder if the original elven immortality had something to do with blood magic. Especially after Avernus flat out told me during the Wardens Keep quest that he'd survived so long precisely because he had used blood magic to extend his lifespan... Something to consider I suppose.

[Ariella]

David Gaider wrote...
Still, it is a good long while. The idea of the "death sentence" more comes from the knowledge that it *does* hang over your head. No matter how well you otherwise live, it will come to an unnatural end. If you tell me that kind of time limit being handed to you, even a long one, wouldn't be disturbing to you then I'd say you are an exceptional person.

The way you phraase it here, Dave, makes me think of the old "Dark Fate" flaw in WoD. Not the falw itself, but there is a comment that (and I'm trying to remember the correct phrasing, as it's been a long time) that Dark Fate might seem to limit free will, but at the same time in an odd way it grants it.

In fact, kind of like another character in DA, but we won't comment on her right now

[Wissenschaft]

Hmmm, theres so much lore in this game that I miss quite a bit even when I try to find everything. I love this game.

[EricHVela]

Why doesn't that flower or whatever that works on dogs to cure them of the taint work on people? Or at least, it cures them of the symptoms.

Then again, the Grey Wardens stuff is not just pure darkspawn blood. They gotta prep it so I guess that excludes them from such a simple cure.

[Forsakerr]

With the 30 or so years i have some problems with Avernus in the Warden's Keep ,i know he prolonged his life with blood magic but should'nt the taint have him get his calling ? i ve read both books and also as someone in this thread mentioned Duncan was beginning to hear it so Avernus should have in theory heard his Calling too no ?

[Valfreyja]

Given the information presented, I believe Avernus managed to delay the effects of the taint by quite a bit. That is at least my understanding of it.

[Vormaerin]

Thirty years is probably too long to have the impact that it should, but its also the far end of things. And, quite likely, that figure is based on Grey Wardens in times of peace and limited contact with the dark spawn. After all, no Grey Warden in generations has faced a Blight. Nor does Alistair actually have good information. He's hardly more experienced than you. His 30 years is probably based on one or two anecdotes rather than average figures.

[yhishtchie]

While the Grey Wardens aren't exactly revered in Ferelden, they're accorded a lot more respect than the Night's Watch is. The Night's Watch is scorned by kings, it's a sentence for criminals, and they don't even take themselves that seriously until the Others actually show up. The similarities are obvious, though, and at least Bioware altered the motif.



And yeah, the 30-year limit wouldn't be a big deal for humans who join at 20 or later. Good luck living past 50 or 60 in any medieval-style world, especially when you're charged with fending off hordes of ravening beasts. I wonder why elves & dwarves are affected the same way, however. They really get the short end of the stick here (and surprise surprise, most Wardens are human).

[DirewolfX]

Eh, my character drank Avernus's blood elixir and let him continue his research, so he will probably just live forever. =p

[Nial Black-Knee]

David is correct. Having been very close to someone with cancer at a young age, I can tell you that a year or even five years goes by way too fast when your trying to pack a lifetime into it. It is just like being on death row. Except there is no appeal process, no last minute call from the governor, no stay of excecution. Just the days and hours ticking by to that inevitable conclusion. It's easy to say, you could get hit by a car tomorrow, and younger people mostly look at death as a far off thing that has little reality in their lives. But knowing when you are going to die drags one down in ways that only the person experiencing it can truly articulate. Kowing you won't see your son or daughter graduate from high school, get married, or be able to hold your grandchildren in your arms. The crushing blow of the knowledge of ones time of death should not be too easily discounted. It's easy to think 40 or 50 is a long way off when your 20. But believe me, the time goes by all too fast.