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[Habelo]

What do you think? i personally think that forgotten realms are much more colorfull, with gods, spirits, different magics, different races- just more diversity in general.

Although i know that they will proboly build more into the world of da but i would really like to see more divinity and more magic sources then just "the fade". It would be fun if in a coming da game they would make their own version of forgotten realms "times of trouble" with avatar of gods popping up all over the world imo.

Thought i know that my opinion is moslty the very minority so i am intrested on what you think is missing in the DA world, and if it is better then forgotten realms..?

[Zenthar Aseth]

Forgotten Realms is broken. Resurrection and too much magic breaks it. Really, when you can raise the dead the system can't work.



Also the gods being just like mortals but more powerful is pretty lame..

[rasone77]

^Um, you kind of have revival in this game too..... Of course they aren't actually completely dead I guess.

[Zenthar Aseth]

That's gameplay. And yes, they're not dead... so the point being...? You can revive people that aren't dead? Okay.. but the point being..?

[Scars Unseen]

The Forgotten Realms have been around for over 40 years(and in gaming products for over 20). It is ridiculous to expect a newly created world to have as much lore and, well, bulk as something that has been built upon that long. That said, I like DA's lore. I enjoy the realms, but that doesn't mean I want everything to be just like them.

[lizardglenn]

DA is a bit bland atm but should get better in part 2 i hope, ^^Resurrection is BAD^^

but being an unkillable godlike person who wakes up is ok !! ROFL

[Zenthar Aseth]

If you're referring to never truly dying in combat... I repeat.. that's gameplay. Do you understand the difference between gameplay and lore?

If not, feel free to use Google.

Modifié par Zenthar Aseth, 14 novembre 2009 - 05:43 .

[Isotemod]

Forgotten Realms lore is obviously better because its been around for longer then most of us and has had contributions from some of the best fantasy authors there are.



However



Dragon Age: Origins is better when you see it from the viewpoint of a single computer game.



Im looking forward to expansion's allowing you to visit the familar and the as of yet not seen locations around the world.

[Cowboy_christo]

Well in Baldur's gate in hardest mode your NPC can actually die beyond the point of ressurection and again its more for the gameplay than anything else.



Now as for comparing each other, they both have an impressive lore. Forgotten realm has the advantage of having been around a lot longer so it has more lore. I actually liked a lot the gods idea in FR. It involved them much more in the world than in DA but when they made DA the plan seemed to be like the gods have left everyone.



But you cant really compare 2 really good thing.

[Edner132435]

Zenthar, calm down dude, it's not that big of a deal. Personally I really like Dragon Age's lore, but one sticking point is annoying me. Everything is explained by demonic possession. Absolutely every mob is a demon in some form. Don't really like that aspect, but the lore/world is great.

[Zenthar Aseth]

I am calm. Why would I not be?

[Stronghold II]

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

I am calm. Why would I not be?

 You are coming off as a complete arsehat.

 Just saying.....

Modifié par Stronghold II, 14 novembre 2009 - 06:06 .

[jsog]

While I like FR, it is a high magic world with a lot of special crap being tossed around all the time. I like the lore of the world more than I enjoy playing games in it.



I like DA's world because it is new, but has a fairly detailed past. There's quite a bit that can (and I hope will be!) done with it. I am eager to get ahold of the RPG source materials just for lore, basically.



Also, I prefer low magic worlds. DA actually has more magic than I would have liked in a story, but I realize that for a computer game, it's got about as little as you can possibly have =)

[Edner132435]

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

I am calm. Why would I not be?

All the elipses make it seem like you have some pent up anger broiling just beneath the surface.

[Yevgenii]

The problem is IMO that most of forgotten realm's lore wasn't even in baldur's gate, so you couldnt really experience it. plus most of it was "empty" lore.. (the god ____ banished ___ blah blah blah same ****). it was just said and moved on from. in DA the lore is alive, experienced, affects everyday life, and is experiencing metamorphosis in every dimension.



That is what you call good lore, and that is why DA's lore is 1000X more interesting, even if forgotten realms had more. Quality > Quantity.

[Zenthar Aseth]

Stronghold II wrote...

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

I am calm. Why would I not be?

 You are coming off as a complete arsehat.

 Just saying.....

Only if you try to refute something I said with "um.. there is revival.. but there's not" or "AHHA OMG I USE SARCASMS!!"

[Stronghold II]

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

Stronghold II wrote...

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

I am calm. Why would I not be?

 You are coming off as a complete arsehat.

 Just saying.....

Only if you try to refute something I said with "um.. there is revival.. but there's not" or "AHHA OMG I USE SARCASMS!!"

 You need a hug, and possibly medication.

[The Demonologist]

I enjoy Ferelden, as it seems like a very cool nation.



However, I'm vastly more interestedi n Orlais. The culture there sounds so much more interesting, and we've only barely tapped what it is that goes on there.

[Zenthar Aseth]

Stronghold II wrote...

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

Stronghold II wrote...

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

I am calm. Why would I not be?

 You are coming off as a complete arsehat.

 Just saying.....

Only if you try to refute something I said with "um.. there is revival.. but there's not" or "AHHA OMG I USE SARCASMS!!"

 You need a hug, and possibly medication.

Alright, troll spotted. No need for our conversation to go any further.

[Stronghold II]

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

Stronghold II wrote...

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

Stronghold II wrote...

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

I am calm. Why would I not be?

 You are coming off as a complete arsehat.

 Just saying.....

Only if you try to refute something I said with "um.. there is revival.. but there's not" or "AHHA OMG I USE SARCASMS!!"

 You need a hug, and possibly medication.

Alright, troll spotted. No need for our conversation to go any further.

 You're an arse, and that makes me a troll?

 /hug

[VnTale]

Never liked FR personally..the world was overused in crpgs already and some parts of it were too heroic for my liking, the were better DnD settings out there, Planescape being my all time favorite. Also..sick of Drizzt and all the good drow wannabees this character produced.



As it goes for DA world. I like it. I like the politics in it, the race relationships, and keep in mind we only really got to know one little part of it so far with rest only hinted here and there, its something fresh among all the fantasy worlds presented lately and i hope it will continue to develop keeping up to the promises it gives in DA:O

[Netrin]

I like the forgotten realms much more, especially with the polytheism and that the gods actually have an active role.

But I think they tried to make the world in DAO less fantasy and as real as it could get.

But as mentioned you cannot really compare the Forgotten Realms with DAO, since it has been there so much more and many of the best authors have been contribution to it over the years.

However, I still think they did a good job inventing 5000 years of history, without using the Forgotten Realms world as a easy template to start with. We still have the vast majority of the details lacking, hopefully we will discover them over the years to come with expansions.

And by the way, the whole ressurection  argument is silly. The mechanism is the same, your party members "fall in combat" and they can be resurrected during and after battle. Only difference is in Baldur's your main character can never "fall" in battle and your party members can be dismembers, incinerated and so forth so you cannot resurrect them.

Modifié par Netrin, 14 novembre 2009 - 06:23 .

[Bullets McDeath]

Forgotten Realms is a wonderful setting. The third edition guide to it in particular is wonderful and of course there's dozens of other supplements and novels, etc...



...that said, I am enjoying Fereldan/Thedas alot. It seemed a little... bland at first, like others noted. It just didn't seem that different from other settings, but as I get further into the game and see more of it, it's a very well thought out, well executed and subtle reinvention of many fantasy conventions and standbys.



I haven't played tabletop RPGs in years, but I'd honestly rather give the Dragon Age one a shot before I'd play DnD again.

[Shannara13]

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

Also the gods being just like mortals but more powerful is pretty lame..

I much prefer that to a vague all powerful presense. Greek mythology was always much more interesting than the Christian mythology.

[Nissa_Red]

Forgotten Realms' lore has started to sound like an old, broken record to me over time.

Besides, because of licensing issues, there are far more inconveniences to D&D lore than advantages in a game like Dragon age.

Some fresh air is much needed, and welcome, as far as I'm concerned

Modifié par Nissa_Red, 14 novembre 2009 - 06:23 .