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[Haasth]

Which do you prefer any why?

[ColaQueen]

I've done both. They both have merits in terms of back story and how you want to rp your character also what equipment you get to start out with.



My cannon character is a city elf rogue. It allows me to play her as a bit conflicted in her feelings towards humans. She knows there are good humans in the world, but because of what humans have done to her family she finds it difficult to reconcile her feelings. For instance she is in a romance with Zevran, but she also has feelings for Alistair, but she's reluctant to get too heavily involved with him. She also reacts badly when humans make negative comments about elves including party members. Her background is a good excuse for her to have become both a duelist and an assasin and use dual weapons. She takes out all her angst on any enemy going basically. Being brought up in the alienage she is a believer, although not devout. She will be kind to humans if they are kind to her though.



My current Dalish elf is profoundly anti-human pretty much and intolerant of city elves usually unless they prove they are worthy of their heritage. She is an archer, I wanted to try that skill and figured Dalish background was a good excuse as it seems appropriate for "woodland" style elves. She does not care for the human religion and scoffs at it. She treats most humans with disdain or bare tolerance toward party members. I haven't decided if she'll bother to romance anyone.



I think I prefer the city elf as a character the way I've made her because she suits my own personality better and the sort of dramatic rp in my head whereas my Dalish elf is more of a way to explore a type of character that I don't normally play, taking me out of my comfort zone.

[Addai]

I prefer Dalish, because I like the lore of a wild nomadic tribe, and I find the city origin a bit depressing. However if you haven't played as a city elf female, you really should, at least play the origin.

[Axekix]

Originally, I would've said city elf by far since the Dalish origin felt so disconnected from the rest of the game. But Witch Hunt helped tie that origin back into the main story. In hindsight, a male Dalish who romances Morrigan could be kind of an interesting angle.



Still, the city origin is much more dramatic and memorable imo, particularly for a fem warden.

[YourAegis]

A hard choice to be honest for me anyway.



I would pick city elf to be honest because they fit the way I want to role-play, the elves are being basically attacked. I want to basically have something where "From the very bottom, I became someone of importance and will do the very best to save my people from this living hell" kinda thing, but I do (Had) an Dalish elf, who basically doesn't care about the humans anymore and only wants to bring the elves back to their former glory even becoming the keeper .

[FenrisDeSolar]

I like the Dalish Elf more than the City Elf in most ways.



I just wish the Dalish elf could be engage to be married to Tamlen... That would make his fate a lot more tragic.

[Face of Evil]

The Dalish origin has its strong points. I feel that a lot of people who dismiss it out of hand don't really take the time to explore the Dalish camp and talk to the people there; there's a lot of great interaction with the NPCs, particularly if you have a Persuade check that's worth a darn. The end scene where you say farewell to your clan is very touching. It's also the only origin that might leave you desiring revenge against the darkspawn.



But the City Elf origin is … well, it carries a far stronger impact on the character, IMO. The interactions with your family are more endearing and the story conveys the oppression of the elves better than that of the Dalish origin. Also, Vaughan is by far the most vile of any villain that appears in the six Origins; you'll likely take great enjoyment gutting the bastard.



I also feel that the CE Origin connects better to the overall story of the game. The events of the DE origin don't really have any impact on the plot, with the exception of Tamlen's re-appearance. (This was corrected with the Witch Hunt DLC.) But the decisions you make in the CE origin can have major ramifications on the rest of the story.

Finally, I thought the CE origin fit in better with the character I wanted to play. For the brief time I played her, my Dalish Warden was a shem-hating xenophobe because that's what I felt the Dalish Warden HAD to be. My canon CE Warden, however, was a more genuinely nice person who played the part of the hero despite the mistreatment he received from humans.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 16 février 2011 - 11:07 .

[Haasth]

Personally I'm a little torn right now. I'm trying, in preparation for Dragon Age 2, get a full male elven rogue walkthrough done. I've had both of them about halfway through origins before quitting on them before. 
Origin wise I think I like the City Elf more for the added drama to it. It's just so satisfying to take payback on Vaughan. On the other hand though, I do like the deal with Tamlen disappearing and later encountering him again for the Dalish origin. 
Then I can see both having quite a lot of option for a rather anti-human standpoint, which I'd likely add lightly at any rate. 
Then I can see the Dalish origin having some great reference potential in DA2 (Merrill etc). 
..Ugh. DILEMMA, DILEMMA. 

[HolyAvenger]

I think the city elf works much, much better for a FWarden. I prefer it to the Dalish.

[Face of Evil]

I'm not entirely certain what impact playing a Dalish Elf Warden will actually have on DA2. Yes, that's your clan. But that Origin always ends with you having to leave, whether or not you were recruited into the Wardens or simply died. I'm willing to bet that Merrill will mourn her lost friend either way.

[TheBlackBaron]

Not a big fan of either elf origin, but I prefer Dalish to City. A bit paradoxical, since the Dalish tend to get on my nerves, but I like how they're bit wilder and even a bit more savage than your run-of-the-mill fantasy wood elves. It's a fun little exercise in role-playing.



Also, it's the closest origin to the cut Human Barbarian origin, which I'm rather disappointed did not make it into the final game.

[Asch Lavigne]

Face of Evil wrote...

I'm not entirely certain what impact playing a Dalish Elf Warden will actually have on DA2. Yes, that's your clan. But that Origin always ends with you having to leave, whether or not you were recruited into the Wardens or simply died. I'm willing to bet that Merrill will mourn her lost friend either way.

I could answer your question but it might spoil part of DA2 for you.

Also, my vote if for the Dalish Origin. I just found it more interesting.

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 17 février 2011 - 12:51 .

[DPSSOC]

I generally prefer the Dalish. The reason for me is that the Dalish, as a whole, seem more real than the City Elves to me. In the origin and Brecelian forest you find Dalish who are unhappy with how things are and seek change. With the City Elves there is one, just one. Everyone else seems to have a "Well what can you do?" sort of attitude. So maybe it's not that the Dalish are more real but that the City Elves are broken; every last scrap of resistance beaten out of them leaving a hollow shell with no nobility left to it.

[HolyAvenger]

DPSSOC wrote...
City Elves are broken; every last scrap of resistance beaten out of them leaving a hollow shell with no nobility left to it.

That's not true, not of Soris, Shianni, your PC and your betrothed, at the very least.

[Shinobu]

Loved the gritty city elf origin, even though Vaughn was a bit over the top (he should have been twirling his mustachios as he tied Shianni to some train tracks). I can't seem to get into my Dalish, but YMMV. I probably didn't spend enough time wandering around camp and chatting with people.



I haven't played through completely with my DE, but part of the thing I find sad about her is that she can really never go home again. The CE gets to rise to the top in her own culture but I feel like the DE is pretty much an exile forever. Plus I prefer the CE's family to the DE's clanmates. (Sorry, Merrill, I'd rather have Shianni!)



On the up side, the DE is pretty much an outsider to all the political machinations, so you can RP with more freedom.

[Verly]

I love the City Elf female story. I personally can't role play my fdalish or fcity elves in a relationship with Alistair. It goes against my idea of how to rp them. That's why I love this game though, everyone can have their own way of playing it.

[Merilsell]

Wow, no of the usual "the Dalish sux, lol" response yet? I'm baffled. xD

As for me:

My Canon is a F!Mahariel, I have a 200k words ongoing-Mahariel FF and generally play rarely other origins. So what do you think I prefer? 

I love the Dalish and their sturdy mentality, unwilling to give in to the humans like the CE have done it, and also I'm fascinated by their lore. It is simply more interesting to me to play a Dalish, they are more free, independent. Also my Lenya was a lot more vocal than CE Aeryn, this is why she has such a full-fleshed character that I could easily write an essay about, whereas my CE is a meek mouse in comparison. All duty and such nonsense. My Dalish is simply laughing about that, grabs Alistair and runs away. Cuz she ain't buying any sh*t.

Modifié par Merilsell, 17 février 2011 - 02:03 .

[Haasth]

The Dalish sux, lol. 
..Sorry.

Interesting responses so far,  certainly a lot of different ways people play out their character. Nice to see. Still a little torn between my decision. But I'm leaning towards Dalish. I like them both quite a bit but I have a feeling Dalish might just have more of an impact in DA2. 

But why BioWare? Why must you keep the female Elf romance option impossible until DA2, where we can only be human? You cruel, cruel beings. 

On that note, I believe that a female Dalish can hint at the possibility of a union between her and Tamlen, right? Is there such a thing for male Dalish as well? Like Merrill for example? I hadn't seen something like that at any rate. 

[Wulfram]

For me, the Dalish don't seem to do much more than exposit on their culture - or rather on the ancient and dead culture that obsesses them - which makes it hard for me to get interested in them.

[Morgora]

I'm playing a Female Dalish Elf at the moment because I wanted to see what the difference in storyline was. So far, I get the impression that, during the time of Arlathan, the Elves and Humans were probably co-existing on friendly/peaceful terms. But, when the Tevinter Imperium decided to "rule the world", that's when the tensions between the Elves and Humans began. The Arlathan Elves existed for many thousands of years and the Tevinter Imperium Humans wanted to wipe them off the face of the earth. Sounds like the usual tryanical take over power trip to me. Of course, these are my own opinions and I could be wrong.

[Chrysalde]

My main DA:O character is a Dalish. I liked playing both elf origins, but after getting farther along in the game, I like the decisions I need to make as a Dalish better than the City Elf's decisions. I don't think that's intrinsically wrong with the origins themselves, however. Just the rp differences between those two characters.

[Corker]

Shinobu wrote...
I haven't played through completely with my DE, but part of the thing I find sad about her is that she can really never go home again. The CE gets to rise to the top in her own culture but I feel like the DE is pretty much an exile forever. Plus I prefer the CE's family to the DE's clanmates. (Sorry, Merrill, I'd rather have Shianni!)

^^ This, although I count it as a positive for the DE.  What can I say?  That playthrough was just gloriously, gloriously bitter and lonely, which made the rare moments of warmth more poignant.  'Nature of the Beast' was wrenching.  And 'Witch Hunt' was finally coming home.

CE is also awesome, just in a totally different way.  You're more the triumphal champion, local kid done good, defending Denerim, your home and your family, from the darkspawn.  I don't think it gets more personal in the endgame than that.  

DE's the gunslinger who drives the thugs out of town, but is too wild and uncivilized to be accepted by the townsfolk.  CE is the silver star sherrif who does the same thing, but gets a parade and the girl after.  They're both really good movies, classic westerns, but they have very different feels to them.

[Last Darkness]

Dahlish cause I hate the dahlish so much.

[Curlain]

Corker wrote...

Shinobu wrote...
I haven't played through completely with my DE, but part of the thing I find sad about her is that she can really never go home again. The CE gets to rise to the top in her own culture but I feel like the DE is pretty much an exile forever. Plus I prefer the CE's family to the DE's clanmates. (Sorry, Merrill, I'd rather have Shianni!)

^^ This, although I count it as a positive for the DE.  What can I say?  That playthrough was just gloriously, gloriously bitter and lonely, which made the rare moments of warmth more poignant.  'Nature of the Beast' was wrenching.  And 'Witch Hunt' was finally coming home.

CE is also awesome, just in a totally different way.  You're more the triumphal champion, local kid done good, defending Denerim, your home and your family, from the darkspawn.  I don't think it gets more personal in the endgame than that.  

DE's the gunslinger who drives the thugs out of town, but is too wild and uncivilized to be accepted by the townsfolk.  CE is the silver star sherrif who does the same thing, but gets a parade and the girl after.  They're both really good movies, classic westerns, but they have very different feels to them.

I really enjoyed that aspect of my Dalish elf as well, as he was forever the outsider, he could never return to his clan, or any other Dalish clan, while at the same time as being adrift in a human world he would never really be apart of either.  One of the reasons that first Warden felt such a connection to Morrigan is they were both outcasts in the human world they found themselves in.

And I loved that aspect of Witch Hunt, I went in with my Dalish Warden blind and loved the feeling of returning home it gave me (he also left with Morrigan through the Mirror, so hopefully he finally found a home with her and their son) 

[Jessihatt]

City elf as they seemed more tragic and oppressed but kinda knew not all humans were bad

Dalish seemed more blinded by shem hate