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[Z-Dragon]

A Dorkly article, Love & Videogames: A Valentine's Day Infographic, listed, among others, the results of a poll about who player's romanced in Mass Effect 2, the results were:

Miranda - 42%
Tali - 26%
Jack - 6%
Jacob - 1%
Garrus - 5%
Thane - 2%
Kelly - 4%
Samara - 2%
Morinth - 1%
Nobody - 13%

For those who chose to romance nobody, I wonder how many of them were choosing to remain loyal to their ME1 love interest, and how many of them simply didn't find any of the ME2 LI's interesting or are holding out for a same-sex romance.

I was also surprised by Tali's and Thane's placing, given the amount of fan support they both have, but I suppose a Yvonne Strahovski's face trumps adorable Quarians and terminal Drells.

Thoughts?

[AdmiralCheez]

Garrus was supposed to be here to accept his reward for being the most popular (ME2) FemShep LI, but he's in the middle of some calibrations.

(I'm actually surprised he outdid Thane, TBO.)

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 17 février 2011 - 12:22 .

[Xilizhra]

I was also surprised by Tali's and Thane's placing, given the amount of fan support they both have, but I suppose a Yvonne Strahovski's ass trumps adorable Quarians and terminal Drells.

Fix'd.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Poor Jacob. He's on par with Morinth! 

AdmiralCheez wrote...
(I'm actually surprised he outdid Thane, TBO.)

Me too. Althrough i'm glad to see Garrus did far better.

"EDIT"

Now that I think about it, I don't think these statistics are accurate of the real situation. Because I just don't buy Thane only getting 2%.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 17 février 2011 - 12:31 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Indeed. I underestimated the power of his dashingly adorkable charm.

EDIT: Well, Lizard, those stats include non-forumites as well.  And remember, the vast majority of ME players are male.  Less female voters, lower total statistics, higher chance of getting an inaccurate sample.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 17 février 2011 - 12:35 .

[Ramirez Wolfen]

TALI ONLY 26%?! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!



But I think Miranda's ass had a hand in this.

[Sylvianus]

I always knew for Mass Effect 2 romances as Miranda would overwhelmingly chosen by the players, despite all the hatred I've seen  on forums.

Same for the soldier class, it seems that everyone hates on this forum, but in reality, it outclasses all other specialties combined. An incredible popularity.

And I bet that despite all the hatred of humans on this forum, indeed the basis of thousands of players, they come from afar in preference to the detriment of  aliens.

This forum is not very representative. But this isn't new.

Jacob - 1%

T_____T

Several things, we already see that the girls' romances in M2 have not at all interested.

In this poll, there is no figure that surprises me. Tali is in second place as planned, gamers interested in a little romance with Jack. A mere 6% compared to the others.

The figure as low of Jacob, is the only thing that can surprise me. Not even a small 3%

Thane is cold, it often evokes his dead wife, and and says he will die shortly. It can cool more than one girl. Not surprised, too. Then the Turian are seductive.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 17 février 2011 - 12:42 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Z-Dragon wrote...
I was also surprised by Tali's and Thane's placing, given the amount of fan support they both have, but I suppose a Yvonne Strahovski's face trumps adorable Quarians and terminal Drells.

On the internet, as in life, never mistake vocal support for broad support.  The Talimancers and Drell Lickers are loud sections of the population that post on the BSN.  About the only conclusion you can draw about Tali and Thane is that some very loud people on BSN support them.  Same with Virmire survivor supporters.  There is literally two to three dozen people who like the VS... they just post about it alllll the time.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Indeed. I underestimated the power of his dashingly adorkable charm.

EDIT: Well, Lizard, those stats include non-forumites as well.  And remember, the vast majority of ME players are male.  Less female voters, lower total statistics, higher chance of getting an inaccurate sample.

No girls on the internet.  :mellow:

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
EDIT: Well, Lizard, those stats include non-forumites as well.  And remember, the vast majority of ME players are male.  Less female voters, lower total statistics, higher chance of getting an inaccurate sample.

But Thane was pretty much made to appeal to the female gamer in mind. WHich is why i'm so suprised he didn't get on top in the Femshep-LI department.

[AdmiralCheez]

Lizardviking wrote...

But Thane was pretty much made to appeal to the female gamer in mind. WHich is why i'm so suprised he didn't get on top in the Femshep-LI department.

Which is probably why Garrus is more popular: Thane was designed with a romantic subplot in mind, while Garrus wasn't.  Would you rather have someone a third party "made just for you," or would you go with the guy who was never meant to be anything more than himself?

Also, never trust a focus group or bunch of professional nerds to know what the ladies want.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 17 février 2011 - 12:51 .

[jeweledleah]

if you pull statistics for ME1 I have a feeling that Ashley and Liara would be roughly equal with Kaidan being far too low for what he deserves (but then again - if only 20% of ME players chose femshep and if even smaller percentage of those players are women interested in straight romance, it makes perfect sense) and small percentage of people who didn't romance anyone because they didn't talk to npc's. Liara might overshoot Ash actually, in part because shes' available to both male and female sheps and in part because she's the easiest romance to get locked into, even if you don't mean it.

Garrus is everyone's best friend, he's quite possibly the least hated character in ME universe, so its not surprising at all that he is more popular then, lets face it - emo Thane. (and people call Kaidan emo - that one always amuses me ) Jacob can be off putting, sadly due to the cheesy dialogue options. he's actualy a good character and his romance ends up being lovely, once you get past porno style voice delivery. not everyone chooses to.

why are Ash and Miranda popular? they are poster girls, they are on advertisements and they are shown in trailers. like soldier class they are default and you might be surprised at just how many people go for default over choosing their own path.

P.S. KAAS alone has over 700 members. I'd say its a bit higher then 2-3 dozen.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 17 février 2011 - 12:52 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

But Thane was pretty much made to appeal to the female gamer in mind. WHich is why i'm so suprised he didn't get on top in the Femshep-LI department.

Which is probably why Garrus is more popular: Thane was designed with a romantic subplot in mind, while Garrus wasn't.  Would you rather have someone a third party "made just for you," or would you go with the guy who was never meant to be anything more than himself?

Well, now that you say it. Answer seems obvious to me.

Garrus all the way! 

[Sentox6]

I'd be interested in knowing how the poll was conducted; if it was open and voluntary I'd expect there to be some self-selection bias. My guess is that people who didn't care about the romancing aspect wouldn't bother replying: the people who answered nobody would largely be made up of those staying 'faithful' and/or those who find themselves frustrated at the options available.

[Crazegamer]

Jack baby :]]]

[Stupidus]

Meh, inaccurate poll. I voted on that but had to choose nobody since my main Sheps are both loyal to Liara and Kaidan

[Z-Dragon]

Sentox6 wrote...

I'd be interested in knowing how the poll was conducted; if it was open and voluntary I'd expect there to be some self-selection bias. My guess is that people who didn't care about the romancing aspect wouldn't bother replying: the people who answered nobody would largely be made up of those staying 'faithful' and/or those who find themselves frustrated at the options available.

I'm not sure, i think it may have been open to any web site visitors.

But that aside, I feel like a casual/random site that you go to like Dorkly would probably give a better overall view of how popular each of the romances are, rather than the BSN boards which, let's face it, have posters who are mostly big fans instead of casual "wonder how this is" players

[erilben]

How this going to be accurate?



Chris Priestly said only a small, vocal minority do romances, so I don't believe that only 13% did no romance.

[Confused-Shepard]

I am not surprised. Bioware appealed to the filthy, barbaric, uncivilized Call Of Duty players and look where that got us. I honestly hate Miranda even more now. We will never enter an age where games are taken seriously unless we get rid of the obvious fan-service and the sex sells marketing strategy

[Sentox6]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

I am not surprised. Bioware appealed to the filthy, barbaric, uncivilized Call Of Duty players and look where that got us. I honestly hate Miranda even more now. We will never enter an age where games are taken seriously unless we get rid of the obvious fan-service and the sex sells marketing strategy

Cause a blue alien space chick pseudo-lesbian isn't fan service at all, right.

There's no doubt the game's been streamlined (too much in my opinion), but I don't think it's necessarily just to try and bring in the market too which you prefer; there's still way too much unavoidable dialogue to ever get those players interested. Honestly, I think BioWare were genuinely trying to improve the game and extend the fringe appeal.

I have high hopes they'll find a good balance in ME3; but there's no way everyone will be happy. As for sexualisation; well, yes, it does sell. It's unfortunate that it's in a more puerile form instead of being focused on intimacy, but at the same time, I'm sick and tired of having to pretend to feel ashamed about it too. The hyper-violence isn't exactly realistic, why must the sex be? Yes, I'll admit it. I don't mind some women with unrealistic proportions and impractical attire in my space shooter. The space shooter with over the top explosions, unachiavable heroics, and a ridiculous body count. Would I complain if they took it out? Not really. But Miranda is nice to look at (well, from the neck down). Sue me.

Hell, anyone who really thinks Miranda is bad needs to go play Bayonetta <_<

Modifié par Sentox6, 17 février 2011 - 04:00 .

[Niulus Kriyk]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!

[nevar00]

Screw Miranda and her ass (in more ways than one), she's probably the worst choice, in my opinion of course. I can't stand the b*tch... only time I went with her was with my evil Shephard, as I was playing through as a shallow jerk who hit everything in sight.

The Tali Romance was probably my favorite, and I'm not too surprised to see it in second place as it seems like I'm not alone. That one just felt more real and deeper to me then any of the others, aside from probably Jack's.

Thane was made with the ladies in mind so I'm surprised to see him so low... but LOL at Jacob being as popular as Morinth. Just as many people want to die as have a relationship with him. Heavy risk...

Modifié par nevar00, 17 février 2011 - 04:16 .

[Captain Iglo]

Internet polls...they only give you a statistic for the site they were put on and nothing else. The same poll on another fansite, forum or a website like IGN could show totally flipped results.

Modifié par Captain Iglo, 17 février 2011 - 08:22 .

[GuardianAngel470]

Z-Dragon wrote...

A Dorkly article, Love & Videogames: A Valentine's Day Infographic, listed, among others, the results of a poll about who player's romanced in Mass Effect 2, the results were:

Miranda - 42%
Tali - 26%
Jack - 6%
Jacob - 1%
Garrus - 5%
Thane - 2%
Kelly - 4%
Samara - 2%
Morinth - 1%
Nobody - 13%

For those who chose to romance nobody, I wonder how many of them were choosing to remain loyal to their ME1 love interest, and how many of them simply didn't find any of the ME2 LI's interesting or are holding out for a same-sex romance.

I was also surprised by Tali's and Thane's placing, given the amount of fan support they both have, but I suppose a Yvonne Strahovski's face trumps adorable Quarians and terminal Drells.

Thoughts?

Yeah, this data is completely irrelevant. Bioware tracks these things, all a journalist has to do is ask them how many people did what. Most players probably never bothered going deep enough into the settings to find out how to turn off said tracking so Bioware probably has a large statistical base of this information.

A poll is only good if you have no other way and only if you have a good statistician nearby to make the poll reflect the whole population. Last I checked (Meaning never:P) IGN and the other game news sources didn't have one and simply used plain counting.

Modifié par GuardianAngel470, 17 février 2011 - 08:39 .

[GuardianAngel470]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

I am not surprised. Bioware appealed to the filthy, barbaric, uncivilized Call Of Duty players and look where that got us. I honestly hate Miranda even more now. We will never enter an age where games are taken seriously unless we get rid of the obvious fan-service and the sex sells marketing strategy

Wow, I disagree with that quite a bit. I mean, in your own words you explain why that will never happen, ever. Sex-SELLS. Tried and tested formula that's easy to do and cheap to do. It will always be a part of gaming because it will always be a part of life. Get used to it man, it ain't going away.

And for the record, Marketing does not equal content. Not only are there three or four other female LI's available to the player but the Miranda Romance, leadup wise, was still up to Bioware standards. The end scene may have been shallow (and uncomfortable) but the leadup was just as good if not better than the Liara ME1 leadup.