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[KnightOfTwo]

The more I watch these videos the more I wonder, just what exactly was Flemeth doing there. She seemed to be surprised by the intended destination of Hawke and company, so it doesn't seem like she was waiting for them.

[jhawke]

I absolutely ADORE Lady Hawke's voice!! 

[Cat Fancy]

Dhiro wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Flemeth looks gloriously wicked. Love her, and her sly smiles.

Oh, I agree with this. I love the way every bit of her face looks alive.

Now, I'm very confused. After the time skip, why we see Carver alive? I'm not sure if that was mentioned here? It also looks very fast paced, in a second a guy steal our money, in the other we're encountering Isabela in a dark place.

I think it's fast paced because events are being condensed for the demo. You can see Isabela's full scene in the bar in the live demo that came out last Friday, or at least more of it. Carver might be there because the uploader is playing a mage or the demo has only one movie. I dunno.

[HyperLimited]

What!? I thought Bioware got rid of those offscreen item exhanges between characters! And look what Flemeth does when she gives the amulet to Hawke! This scene better have been fixed before the game went gold!

[Eternal Dust]

LPPrince wrote...

By the way, for some reason, looking at OctoberFire's current avatar gives me FFXIII vibes.

Maybe its the shape of her face, the expression, I DON'T KNOW. Gah.

EDIT- And now I don't see it. Yay!

Modifié par octoberfire, 19 février 2011 - 01:43 .

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

It's incredible what people complain about.



On another note, the passage of time has always been wonky to me in the land of Dragon Age, which always leaves me a bit confused. As there have been artistic liberties taken between the two games, I'm unsure if we're supposed to assume sexy Flemeth is still in her old body or not. I'm assuming, yes, and that it's just been sexed up like so many other things.

[Maria Caliban]

Saibh wrote...


Y u no liek Carver?

He's herping in the Great Derp beyond the Veil now.

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

It's incredible what people complain about.

On another note, the passage of time has always been wonky to me in the land of Dragon Age, which always leaves me a bit confused. As there have been artistic liberties taken between the two games, I'm unsure if we're supposed to assume sexy Flemeth is still in her old body or not. I'm assuming, yes, and that it's just been sexed up like so many other things.

She's a shapeshifter. She took one form for the Warden and another for Hawke.

And the timeline is fine. There's no way to kill her until after Lothering falls.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 19 février 2011 - 01:42 .

[Purple People Eater]

Revan312 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Exactly.

There's no time to sit there and grieve. There'll be time for that later. They need to get OUT of there first.

Then if the situation is soo dire, why did they have a 5 minute conversation with Flemeth?  And take another couple minutes to respectfully kill Wesley?  Yet, even though they're essentially safe they just leave without even showing an ounce of emotion about their brother who was literally just murdered.

"Well, bye Carver's corpse.. We liked you, I guess.. whatever lets go."

It's sloppy writing, period..  Hopefully the writers got into the groove more the further they progressed into the story production because that scene was pathetic imo.

Also the next two posts

How about they had a 5 minute conversation with Flemeth because she went from being a Dragon, into looking human. Ive got two sisters, and I love them both, but if one of them were to die in front of me, then a dragon appeared, swooped down and breathed fire all over the place, saving my life, then turned into an old woman...I think I might be a little conflicted emotionally for just a bit. Just sayin.

[Estel78]

Nobody asks Hawke to grieve for 15 minutes straight, just a sad face during line delivery or some additional quick shot at his mug that would bring the point home what just happened to him (losing a sibling) would have sufficed. But there was absolutely nothing.

[Brockololly]

My thoughts:


* Flemeth is awesome.

*Her dragon transformation is awesome.

*Her hip sway animation / hot body is 10000X creepy when you hear old Flemeth's voice coming out of that new looking body

*Everyone has strange nub shaped teeth

* The eyes on everyone bother me- its like the whites of their eyes are too bright and the eyes look like they're going to pop out of everyone's head.

* When I see new Flemeth I can't help but think of Maleficent combined with Rita Repulsa from Power Rangers:




* Some of the transitions between cutscene/dialogue and combat are pretty jarring, what with the music just abruptly cutting in and out.

*And Flemeth is awesome:wizard:

Modifié par Brockololly, 19 février 2011 - 01:54 .

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

My Hawke will take great pleasure at seeing her obnoxious brother die. That's for stealing all my underwear when we were ten you perv! ;p

[madsabroo]

Estel78 wrote...

Nobody asks Hawke to grieve for 15 minutes straight, just a sad face during line delivery or some additional quick shot at his mug that would bring the point home what just happened to him (losing a sibling) would have sufficed. But there was absolutely nothing.

NO EMOTIONS ALLOWED IN VIDEOGAMES GEEZ. 

[KnightOfTwo]

Brockololly wrote...

My thoughts:

* Flemeth is awesome.
*Her dragon transformation is awesome.
*Her hip sway animation / hot body is 10000X creepy when you hear old Flemeth's voice coming out of that new looking body
*And Flemeth is awesome:wizard:

Indeed she is.

....am I the only one who wants to romance Flemeth now?

[Revan312]

LPPrince wrote...

Because they didn't know whether there would be anymore incoming darkspawn.

For all they knew, the friggen Blight itself could've descended upon them and even Flemeth wouldn't of been able to do anything.

If I were in that situation(as Hawke), I honestly wouldn't be grieving over Carver yet. I'd do that once I was absolutely SURE I was safe and secure.

The only time they are safe and secure? Once they reach Kirkwall.

Again, a poor excuse imo.. your sibling just got murdered 5 minutes ago I said it again because the people making assumptionary justifications must not understand how 99% of people would react to their very close loved one dieing suddenly. Here's a good example oh what I would have been happy with..

Overall the scene failed to do it's job, you can't deny that. When you have to start making justifications for why the scene fell flat and didn't involve the needed emotion, it's a sure sign the whole point was lost and/or rushed.

Fictional stories are meant to evoke emotion in the reader.  Death of a main or secondary character is a prime example of that.  Yet, if the reader doesn't care (I didn't) and the characters don't really care (They didn't seem to) then what was the point of the death to begin with?  Bio could have just forgone the death completely and just had Hawke have one sibling from the start based on class.

My point is, if there's one, no emotional attachment to the characters in question, and two, there's no emotional response from said characters during what would be a huge moment in their lives.. why even have the scene?

Purple People Eater wrote...
How about they had a 5 minute
conversation with Flemeth because she went from being a Dragon, into
looking human. Ive got two sisters, and I love them both, but if one of
them were to die in front of me, then a dragon appeared, swooped down
and breathed fire all over the place, saving my life, then turned into
an old woman...I think I might be a little conflicted emotionally for
just a bit. Just sayin.

touche

But in a world where dragons are known and people are fighting mutant zombies and ogres, I imagine the impact such an event would have on you is more pronounced than on these characters..

Modifié par Revan312, 19 février 2011 - 01:50 .

[TeamRyan]

Carver was kind of a jerk anyway don't see my Hawke liking him too much.

[Cat Fancy]

Maria Caliban wrote...

She's a shapeshifter. She took one form for the Warden and another for Hawke.

That makes her seem like a ridiculous person. "Time to meet a new person! I'm feelin' like hornhair today." If that's actually the explanation, I can deal with it, because life's too short, but I hope it's just an unexplained stylistic change. Also, that's not how shapeshifting works, is it? I'm not going to think about this anymore.

Stop thinking about this, umwhatyousay.

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

Revan312 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Because they didn't know whether there would be anymore incoming darkspawn.

For all they knew, the friggen Blight itself could've descended upon them and even Flemeth wouldn't of been able to do anything.

If I were in that situation(as Hawke), I honestly wouldn't be grieving over Carver yet. I'd do that once I was absolutely SURE I was safe and secure.

The only time they are safe and secure? Once they reach Kirkwall.

Again, a poor excuse imo.. your sibling just got murdered 5 minutes ago I said it again because the people making assumptionary justification must not understand how 99% of people would react to their very close loved one dieing suddenly. Here's a good example oh what I would have been happy with..

Overall the scene failed to do it's job, you can't deny that. When you have to start making justifications for why the scene fell flat and didn't involve the needed emotion, it's a sure sign of the whole point was lost and/or rushed.

Fictional stories are meant to evoke emotion in the reader.  Death of a main or secondary character is a prime example of that.  Yet, if the reader doesn't care (I didn't) and the characters don't really care (They didn't seem to) then what was the point of the death to begin with?  Bio could have just forgone the death completely and just had Hawke have one sibling from the start based on class.

My point is, if there's one, no emotional attachment to the characters in question, and two, there's no emotional response from said characters during what would be a huge moment in their lives.. why even have the scene?

To give angry nerds months of raging on the forums an outlet. Think of it as a public service. Better that dysfunctional people let out steam on forums than on people from a clocktower right? ;p

Modifié par kjdhgfiliuhwe, 19 février 2011 - 01:49 .

[KnightOfTwo]

TeamRyan wrote...

Carver was kind of a jerk anyway don't see my Hawke liking him too much.

Heres to hoping theres an option to punch him at least once, or a mod that lets you do it repeatedly.

[TeamRyan]

Revan312 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Because they didn't know whether there would be anymore incoming darkspawn.

For all they knew, the friggen Blight itself could've descended upon them and even Flemeth wouldn't of been able to do anything.

If I were in that situation(as Hawke), I honestly wouldn't be grieving over Carver yet. I'd do that once I was absolutely SURE I was safe and secure.

The only time they are safe and secure? Once they reach Kirkwall.

Again, a poor excuse imo.. your sibling just got murdered 5 minutes ago I said it again because the people making assumptionary justification must not understand how 99% of people would react to their very close loved one dieing suddenly. Here's a good example oh what I would have been happy with..

Overall the scene failed to do it's job, you can't deny that. When you have to start making justifications for why the scene fell flat and didn't involve the needed emotion, it's a sure sign of the whole point was lost and/or rushed.

Fictional stories are meant to evoke emotion in the reader.  Death of a main or secondary character is a prime example of that.  Yet, if the reader doesn't care (I didn't) and the characters don't really care (They didn't seem to) then what was the point of the death to begin with?  Bio could have just forgone the death completely and just had Hawke have one sibling from the start based on class.

My point is, if there's one, no emotional attachment to the characters in question, and two, there's no emotional response from said characters during what would be a huge moment in their lives.. why even have the scene?

Purple People Eater wrote...
How about they had a 5 minute
conversation with Flemeth because she went from being a Dragon, into
looking human. Ive got two sisters, and I love them both, but if one of
them were to die in front of me, then a dragon appeared, swooped down
and breathed fire all over the place, saving my life, then turned into
an old woman...I think I might be a little conflicted emotionally for
just a bit. Just sayin.

touche

But in a world where dragons are known and people are fighting mutant zombies and ogres, I imagine the impact such an event would have on you is more pronounced than on these characters..

Are you complaining about not going "blood drunk" on the ogre in a cutscene as opposed to actually fighting it?

[Revan312]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...
To give angry nerds months of raging on the forums an outlet. Think of it as a public service. Better that dysfunctional people let out steam on forums than on people from a clocktower right? ;p

*stops cleaning gun*

What was that you said?

Modifié par Revan312, 19 février 2011 - 01:54 .

[Eternal Dust]

KnightOfTwo wrote...

TeamRyan wrote...

Carver was kind of a jerk anyway don't see my Hawke liking him too much.

Heres to hoping theres an option to punch him at least once, or a mod that lets you do it repeatedly.

At least you can laugh at him.

[Estel78]

Revan312 wrote...

Fictional stories are meant to evoke emotion in the reader.  Death of a main or secondary character is a prime example of that.  Yet, if the reader doesn't care (I didn't) and the characters don't really care (They didn't seem to) then what was the point of the death to begin with?  Bio could have just forgone the death completely and just had Hawke have one sibling from the start based on class.

Well, we, the players, can't really care since we know him/her for like 15 minutes before he/she dies but i agree with everything else you said.

Modifié par Estel78, 19 février 2011 - 01:57 .

[Revan312]

TeamRyan wrote...

Are you complaining about not going "blood drunk" on the ogre in a cutscene as opposed to actually fighting it?

No, you could actually fight it, but say, have Hawke, after its dead, beating/slashing/burning the corpse of the ogre over and over and over until say Aveline comes over and stops you..

It would have been better than "He was cool, k, now lets go"

[Maria Caliban]

umwhatyousay wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

She's a shapeshifter. She took one form for the Warden and another for Hawke.

That makes her seem like a ridiculous person. "Time to meet a new person! I'm feelin' like hornhair today."

She wanted the Warden to consider her a harmless and slightly batty old woman who was innocently offering her a daughter. She wants Hawke to consider her a powerful wizard.

[Naitaka]

DA:O = Flemeth not wearing makeup

DAII = Flemeth wearing makeup