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[Cat Fancy]

Maria Caliban wrote...

umwhatyousay wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

She's a shapeshifter. She took one form for the Warden and another for Hawke.

That makes her seem like a ridiculous person. "Time to meet a new person! I'm feelin' like hornhair today."

She wanted the Warden to consider her a harmless and slightly batty old woman who was innocently offering her a daughter. She wants Hawke to consider her a powerful wizard.

That's very plausible, although I think the dragon would be sufficient. But I thought you could only assume form per species? I'm not super-familiar with the lore. And Flemeth is, like, super-magical, so she can do what she wants, I guess.

Whatever, Flemeth. Whatever.

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

octoberfire wrote...

KnightOfTwo wrote...

TeamRyan wrote...

Carver was kind of a jerk anyway don't see my Hawke liking him too much.

Heres to hoping theres an option to punch him at least once, or a mod that lets you do it repeatedly.

At least you can laugh at him.

Hahaha. That needs to go in the Carver "Appreciation" thread, if it isn't already. What a dunce.

Modifié par kjdhgfiliuhwe, 19 février 2011 - 01:59 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

Estel78 wrote...

Nobody asks Hawke to grieve for 15 minutes straight, just a sad face during line delivery or some additional quick shot at his mug that would bring the point home what just happened to him (losing a sibling) would have sufficed. But there was absolutely nothing.

I agree. Hawke seemed more upset about killing Wesley, a templar she's known for all of five minutes, than she was about her brother being crushed to death.

People are so mean to Carver. He went out like a hero defending his mom, I felt so bad for him.

[Clover Rider]

Naitaka wrote...

DA:O = Flemeth not wearing makeup
DAII = Flemeth wearing makeup

This.

[LPPrince]

Revan312 wrote...

Again, a poor excuse imo.. your sibling just got murdered 5 minutes ago I said it again because the people making assumptionary justifications must not understand how 99% of people would react to their very close loved one dieing suddenly. Here's a good example oh what I would have been happy with..

Overall the scene failed to do it's job, you can't deny that. When you have to start making justifications for why the scene fell flat and didn't involve the needed emotion, it's a sure sign the whole point was lost and/or rushed.

I CAN deny that. They had darkspawn all around them, a big friggen dragon lady, and the fate of their lives hanging in the balance.

I sure as hell wouldn't be mourning someone who just died no matter who it was. At least not with tears streaming down my face.

They didn't fail anything there. At least not to me. And please don't start whipping out imaginary percentages to drive your point. I get your opinion. Doesn't mean I agree with it.

I feel it was handled fine. I'd be grieving later, and if they DO grieve later, then awesome. If they don't, I'll just roleplay it that they did it off camera.

I don't need to see it happen to know it did. That's one of the essences of a role playing game.

[LPPrince]

Purple People Eater wrote...

How about they had a 5 minute conversation with Flemeth because she went from being a Dragon, into looking human. Ive got two sisters, and I love them both, but if one of them were to die in front of me, then a dragon appeared, swooped down and breathed fire all over the place, saving my life, then turned into an old woman...I think I might be a little conflicted emotionally for just a bit. Just sayin.

This.

[Blacklash93]

Ploppy wrote...

HyperLimited wrote...

This thread went from discussing the demo videos to senseless QQing about a demo that, supposedly, isn't the one we're going to be playing on the 22nd.
<_<

You can be the judge of that for yourself. Looks pretty "full demo"-style to me:

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It's not the demo build we're getting. Chris said so himself.

[The Lesser Evil]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

At least you can laugh at him.

Hahaha. That needs to go in the Carver "Appreciation" thread, if it isn't already. What a dunce.

The Carver Appreciation thread, dump the quotation marks, has been quite appreciative for a while now. Keep your propaganda, haterz! 

[Dhiro]

Revan312 wrote..

touche

But in a world where dragons are known and people are fighting mutant zombies and ogres, I imagine the impact such an event would have on you is more pronounced than on these characters..

People know that dragons exist, but it's not something you see everyday. Also, shapeshifting seems to be a very mysterious type of magic, even a Mage Warden seems confuse about it, so it's understandable if they get confused by a dragon (a very, very rare creature) saving them and then turning (magic that they probably don't know that exist) into a human with strange hair.

[tondratic]

So. . .the demo is out of twenty parts now? Interesting.

[TeamRyan]

Revan312 wrote...

It would have been better than "He was cool, k, now lets go"

That's actually the funniest thing I've heard all day.

[DJBare]

umwhatyousay wrote...
Also, that's not how shapeshifting works, is it? I'm not going to think about this anymore.

Stop thinking about this, umwhatyousay.

You are correct, Morrigan explains in DA:O, they cannot shape shift into another human, when they shift to other forms it because there is something to be gained, but since she is already human nothing is gained.

[Maria Caliban]

RitaChe wrote...

So. . .the demo is out of twenty parts now? Interesting.

4:20 = Pot joke.

[Dhiro]

RitaChe wrote...

So. . .the demo is out of twenty parts now? Interesting.

Again, it's not our demo. I... assume it was that early demo people played some months ago? They only had X minutes to play, so they couldn't know if the demo was big or small. I'm not sure about how this person got this demo, but it sure seems big...

[SeanMurphy2]

I thought the grief scenes were fine. It does not need to be hysterical sobbing.



I think it is the sustained shock of the situation. They see their home destroyed, monstrous darkspawn, dead people everywhere, constantly facing attacks and being uncertain where to run to.



It might be like soldiers still in a combat situation. The bulk of the grief may be experienced later.

[Browneye_Vamp84]

so tomorrow there will be another video? nice, have something to look forward too.

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

DJBare wrote...

umwhatyousay wrote...
Also, that's not how shapeshifting works, is it? I'm not going to think about this anymore.

Stop thinking about this, umwhatyousay.

You are correct, Morrigan explains in DA:O, they cannot shape shift into another human, when they shift to other forms it because there is something to be gained, but since she is already human nothing is gained.

I'd take anything Morrigan said about shapeshifting with a grain of salt, especially since the idea that you can only change shape to something you gain something from (nevermind how nebulous the term 'gain' is) makes about as much sense as political internet forum discussions.

I'm sticking with it just being one of the many artistic changes they made between the two games. 

[Dhiro]

DJBare wrote...

umwhatyousay wrote...
Also, that's not how shapeshifting works, is it? I'm not going to think about this anymore.

Stop thinking about this, umwhatyousay.

You are correct, Morrigan explains in DA:O, they cannot shape shift into another human, when they shift to other forms it because there is something to be gained, but since she is already human nothing is gained.

I am almost sure David Gaider said that Morrigan didn't knew everything abour shapeshifting - Flemeth could be lying to her, making sure that she wouldn't get too powerful and betray her somehow. She did, in the end, but still.

[Browneye_Vamp84]

Maria Caliban wrote...

RitaChe wrote...

So. . .the demo is out of twenty parts now? Interesting.

4:20 = Pot joke.

[WhisperingCity]

It is weird that he's dead with open eyes and mouth when jusssst a second ago he was dead, but peaceful looking. I wonder if Bethany also looks like that in the background after Flemeth swoops in, or if Carver's writer ticked somebody off that day I also wonder if you choose the "it's up to you" option when Aveline's kneeling by Wesley if their final moments together play out any differently? Maybe a little more tenderly? Aveline's expression WAS good, but I agree it could've used a last caress or kiss or something.

[Brockololly]

Dhiro wrote...

DJBare wrote...

umwhatyousay wrote...
Also, that's not how shapeshifting works, is it? I'm not going to think about this anymore.

Stop thinking about this, umwhatyousay.

You are correct, Morrigan explains in DA:O, they cannot shape shift into another human, when they shift to other forms it because there is something to be gained, but since she is already human nothing is gained.

I am almost sure David Gaider said that Morrigan didn't knew everything abour shapeshifting - Flemeth could be lying to her, making sure that she wouldn't get too powerful and betray her somehow. She did, in the end, but still.

Yeah he did. Basically, Flemeth is a master shapeshifter and not even truly human. Morrigan only learned a certain amount from Flemeth. So Morrigan is not capable of changing her human form. That doesn't mean that Flemeth can't.

[DJBare]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...
I'd take anything Morrigan said about shapeshifting with a grain of salt, especially since the idea that you can only change shape to something you gain something from (nevermind how nebulous the term 'gain' is) makes about as much sense as political internet forum discussions.

I'm sticking with it just being one of the many artistic changes they made between the two games. 

Let me put it this way, I hope that Morrigan is correct, otherwise I can just imagine the LI threads for a shape shifter that can become any sex, that's a can of worms I don't want to see opened!

[Saibh]

I still like Carver. Bethany has a predictable reaction. Maybe she'll be a predictable character. Carver might surprise me.

[Dhiro]

Brockololly wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

DJBare wrote...

umwhatyousay wrote...
Also, that's not how shapeshifting works, is it? I'm not going to think about this anymore.

Stop thinking about this, umwhatyousay.

You are correct, Morrigan explains in DA:O, they cannot shape shift into another human, when they shift to other forms it because there is something to be gained, but since she is already human nothing is gained.

I am almost sure David Gaider said that Morrigan didn't knew everything abour shapeshifting - Flemeth could be lying to her, making sure that she wouldn't get too powerful and betray her somehow. She did, in the end, but still.

Yeah he did. Basically, Flemeth is a master shapeshifter and not even truly human. Morrigan only learned a certain amount from Flemeth. So Morrigan is not capable of changing her human form. That doesn't mean that Flemeth can't.

I wonder if Flemeth also needs to 'observe' someone to change her appearence. As in, she needed to observe some random crazy old lady to get her Origins form or if she doesn't need this kind of thing because she's this awesome and she has fun seeing Morrigan pooping in the floor while trying to feel like a wolf.

[upsettingshorts]

DJBare wrote...

You are correct, Morrigan explains in DA:O, they cannot shape shift into another human, when they shift to other forms it because there is something to be gained, but since she is already human nothing is gained.

That's not what she said.

She said she would gain nothing.  Morrigan has opinions on pretty much everything.  Furthermore she never said it was impossible or beyond her power, just that she had no interest in learning another human form or adopting one.

Personally I think it was explicitly taken off the table for her - a party member - because if it wasn't it'd be a huge plot hole generation device.  "Why didn't Morrigan just shapeshift into (name) and do (activity) it would have (saved them trouble)!"  And not any evidence of particular lore regarding shapeshifting.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 19 février 2011 - 02:19 .