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#1701
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WhisperingCity wrote...

It is weird that he's dead with open eyes and mouth when jusssst a second ago he was dead, but peaceful looking. I wonder if Bethany also looks like that in the background after Flemeth swoops in, or if Carver's writer ticked somebody off that day :P I also wonder if you choose the "it's up to you" option when Aveline's kneeling by Wesley if their final moments together play out any differently? Maybe a little more tenderly? Aveline's expression WAS good, but I agree it could've used a last caress or kiss or something.



seemed like she didn't really love him.  even though he was tainted... i'd figure she'd kiss him goodbye. :pinched:

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Saibh wrote...

I still like Carver. Bethany has a predictable reaction. Maybe she'll be a predictable character. Carver might surprise me.


Hoho, your avatar is even in portuguese. Love you.

Modifié par Dhiro, 19 février 2011 - 02:19 .


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LPPrince wrote...

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Again, a poor excuse imo.. your sibling just got murdered 5 minutes ago I said it again because the people making assumptionary justifications must not understand how 99% of people would react to their very close loved one dieing suddenly. Here's a good example oh what I would have been happy with..

Overall the scene failed to do it's job, you can't deny that. When you have to start making justifications for why the scene fell flat and didn't involve the needed emotion, it's a sure sign the whole point was lost and/or rushed.


I CAN deny that. They had darkspawn all around them, a big friggen dragon lady, and the fate of their lives hanging in the balance.

I sure as hell wouldn't be mourning someone who just died no matter who it was. At least not with tears streaming down my face.

They didn't fail anything there. At least not to me. And please don't start whipping out imaginary percentages to drive your point. I get your opinion. Doesn't mean I agree with it.

I feel it was handled fine. I'd be grieving later, and if they DO grieve later, then awesome. If they don't, I'll just roleplay it that they did it off camera.

I don't need to see it happen to know it did. That's one of the essences of a role playing game.


I wasn't expecting you to take the percentage as fact, of course it's pulled out of thin air simply to demonstrate a point..

But if your fine with how the scene was handled, a question. Does the scene I linked from 300 have more impact and meaning/emotional connection than the one displayed in this footage of the game? If yes I will say your a strange one indeed, if not, then to what degree is the 300 scene better portrayed?

I would argue that that scene in 300 (a movie I actually didn't like) was about 1000X more understandable and realistic than either of Wesley or Carver/Bethanys deaths. I really can't believe that you thought that scene had enough emotion. It feels like your defending it simply because your a Bioware hopeful and want to plug your ears and impart an explenation for the flat attitude of it all. If I'm wrong then I apologize but I just can't see as that scene was approprietly dramatic by even passing viewers.

Lastly, if the situation was so dramatic and dire, why did none of them act accordingly?  They all seemed fairly calm and collected. If there's darkspawn everywhere, a shapeshifting old woman just appeared out of dragon form and your brother/sister just died, why does it feel like they all took an ambien or three?  If they were all frazzled, nervous and stressed I could understand the lack emotion as an explenation for the careless attitude towards the deaths, barely, but none of them are so it falls flat to me... extremely flat.

And with that I'm done discussing the deaths as there's nothing else to be said.. I'll just have to play the game to see if the character dynamics get any better than the collective "meh" shown from them so far.

Modifié par Revan312, 19 février 2011 - 02:24 .


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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Estel78 wrote...

Nobody asks Hawke to grieve for 15 minutes straight, just a sad face during line delivery or some additional quick shot at his mug that would bring the point home what just happened to him (losing a sibling) would have sufficed. But there was absolutely nothing.

I agree. Hawke seemed more upset about killing Wesley, a templar she's known for all of five minutes, than she was about her brother being crushed to death.

People are so mean to Carver. He went out like a hero defending his mom, I felt so bad for him. :(

I dunno, I think Hawke's composure was at it's limit when the Carver/Bethany died and then having to mercy kill a good man (from all appearances) like 2 minutes later straw that broke the camel's back and broke that composure.  At least this is how I'm going to reason it in my head about my character.

I do agree though that having Hawke more sad during the sibling's death would work better though for the scene.

Modifié par Urazz, 19 février 2011 - 02:25 .


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Saibh wrote...

I still like Carver. Bethany has a predictable reaction. Maybe she'll be a predictable character. Carver might surprise me.

OMG your avatar :lol:

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I really hope this is an older build. 

A lot of the conversation animations look pretty robotic. Hawke closing Wesley's eyes looked all wrong, for example. Then there's Cassandra's shoulder pads clipping through the bits of armor by her neck. Some cuts in the camera-work seem poppy, too. Even the idle bits were off.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 19 février 2011 - 02:37 .


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Anyhow, uploaded this part here.

Modifié par Saibh, 19 février 2011 - 02:36 .


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@ Saibh, it is tragic and unfortunate that rigour derpis appears to have set in so quickly.

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Do know if you guys know yet, but part 5 is up.

#1710
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Bio Addict wrote...

Do know if you guys know yet, but part 5 is up.


yes i just watched it

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so...... think the relic Isabella is looking for is the same one Flemeth gave to Hawke? XD

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Dhiro wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I still like Carver. Bethany has a predictable reaction. Maybe she'll be a predictable character. Carver might surprise me.


Hoho, your avatar is even in portuguese. Love you.


I loved it too,Brazilian here.

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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 19 février 2011 - 01:24 .


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*watches part 5*

You know, I'll be honest. When I play DA2, my eyes will be centered on Isabella's chest in EVERY scene she's in....

...Just like what I did with me eyes for Miranda's butt in ME2... :innocent:

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where is a ignore button when it is needed?

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Flemeth is amazing this time 'round. Well, even more amazing this time around to be precise.

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HyperLimited wrote...

*watches part 5*

You know, I'll be honest. When I play DA2, my eyes will be centered on Isabella's chest in EVERY scene she's in....

...Just like what I did with me eyes for Miranda's butt in ME2... :innocent:


Miranda's butt was just too big. Yvonne Strahovski is a very pretty woman that did not need her butt to be "photoshopped" to twice its size. ;p

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Fly on, you crazy pirate lady, fly on.

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Count Viceroy wrote...

Flemeth is amazing this time 'round. Well, even more amazing this time around to be precise.



i like this look much better than DAO.  :devil:i guess she changes her outfit when shes not around Morrigan.

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The demo on normal is really easy. You might as well take the pause button right out.



Also Bioware: Varric and Aveline ice skate around when they run, it's really stupid. Please patch this when the game releases, thanks in advance.

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GvazElite wrote...

The demo on normal is really easy. You might as well take the pause button right out.

Also Bioware: Varric and Aveline ice skate around when they run, it's really stupid. Please patch this when the game releases, thanks in advance.


Oh, you mean...exactly like DAO on Normal?

God, how they've dumbed it down.

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Saibh wrote...

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Fly on, you crazy pirate lady, fly on.


WTH???

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Browneye_Vamp84 wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

Flemeth is amazing this time 'round. Well, even more amazing this time around to be precise.



i like this look much better than DAO.  :devil:i guess she changes her outfit when shes not around Morrigan.


Well, she's gone from a shed living crazy cat lady to a hot ...  well she's still a crazy lady I suppose. I stand by hot though!. The outfit, the horns, the metal thing on her head. She's even got mailed gloves. Awesome just awesome.

Obviously, this would be nothing if she wasn't voiced by Kate Mulgrew. :o

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 19 février 2011 - 03:18 .


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Saibh wrote...

GvazElite wrote...

The demo on normal is really easy. You might as well take the pause button right out.

Also Bioware: Varric and Aveline ice skate around when they run, it's really stupid. Please patch this when the game releases, thanks in advance.


Oh, you mean...exactly like DAO on Normal?

God, how they've dumbed it down.


No, I beat DA:O on Normal. Try even easier. I wish I was kidding :?

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Count Viceroy wrote...

Browneye_Vamp84 wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

Flemeth is amazing this time 'round. Well, even more amazing this time around to be precise.



i like this look much better than DAO.  :devil:i guess she changes her outfit when shes not around Morrigan.


Well, she's gone from a shed living crazy cat lady to a hot ...  well she's still a crazy lady I suppose. I stand by hot though!. The outfit, the horns the metal thing on her head. She's even got mailed gloves. Awesome just awesome.

very much so.:o
   Morrigan would be jealous of the gorgeous new look of Flemeth.:devil: