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[CaptainZaysh]

The Reapers are an existential threat to all sentient life.  I really hope that's the reason every available fleet and warrior gets thrown at them, and not because Shepard visited a leader and did a loyalty quest for him.

I would really like it if the quests in ME3 were about "fighting the war" rather than "convincing everybody else to fight the war".

[Caesar914]

Now wouldn't THAT be something? Ugh... I wish that could be true. But intuition tells me otherwise.....

[Zacarius2]

This seems unlikely. If everyone reconized the common threat there would be nothing to do but hide behind conviently placed boxes and shoot things. In order to play the role of Shepard you will be required to convince people to do things they should already be doing. Usually this comes in the form of a trade, do something for me and I will do something for you. Every place you go, besides the three missions that you actually fight against the Reaper's minions, will be some sort of quest to prove that whomever should help Shepard. The best we can hope for is that at the end of each quest we will have to decide if we want elves or werewolves to fight with us...err...I mean Quarians or Geth.

[Dark Specie]

Heh. Well, I imagine that it's going to be a bit of both. After all, the Council can be such a bunch of stiff-necked fools so I wouldn't be surpised if they at first attempts to write this off as a "human only"-problem at first - until they find themselves under attack (would be surpisinig if the Reapers attacked the humans only - while we should certainly be those who draws their greatest attention, it should be ín their interest to tie down the military forces and resources of other races down elsewhere, so that if nothing else, Mankind's plight is a secondary concern to the other races of the galaxy).

[Rune-Chan]

I think it is pretty much guaranteed to be like that, depending on whether or not Reapers have been sighted at the beginning of the game.



The alternative may be that it's not convincing them to fight the Reapers but to follow your plan to do so. After all, Shepard isn't a general and has no authority to command the other races/armies to do anything.

[Wolfen Extra]

It seems like it's going to be something similar to DA:O.

[AkiKishi]

Wolfen Extra wrote...

It seems like it's going to be something similar to DA:O.

That's always been my bet.

Just a question to certain people(not the person I'm quoting) If you want the old squad and not to actually have to recruit allies... What are you planning on doing for 20 hours?

Now for the game bit.

CaptainZaysh wrote...

The Reapers are an existential threat to all sentient life.  I really hope that's the reason every available fleet and warrior gets thrown at them, and not because Shepard visited a leader and did a loyalty quest for him.

I would really like it if the quests in ME3 were about "fighting the war" rather than "convincing everybody else to fight the war".

True they are,however it depends what the Reapers do. If they just attack Earth then there is less motivation for others to get involved. Plenty of real Earth examples of that.

It's an RPG engine so how exactly would you fight a "war" with it ?

[KEELAH SE LAI]

Most likely the Council are gong to be cowards and not help the humans until the end of the game right after Shepard tells them off in an epic dialog scene of epic proportions....or gives them the boot and somehow whats left of humanity goes after the aliens and takes over the galaxy and humanity once again can prove their place in the galaxy.

[AkiKishi]

KEELAH SE LAI wrote...

Most likely the Council are gong to be cowards and not help the humans until the end of the game right after Shepard tells them off in an epic dialog scene of epic proportions....or gives them the boot and somehow whats left of humanity goes after the aliens and takes over the galaxy and humanity once again can prove their place in the galaxy.

Judging from the state of London humanity is not going to be doing much except re-building. Or maybe even leaving Earth entirely. I agree with your council assement though politicians are reluctant to get involved unless there is something in it for their faction/race.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 17 février 2011 - 12:09 .

[lowbattery]

idk. because tbh the reapers will destroy every species  and i reckon all of the species have to alliance together to kick some reapers ass

[lawp79]

The councils belief in the reapers died along with shepard, they will need pretty solid proof of a threat before doing anything at all and after their reaction to soveriegn in the 2nd game I doubt even earth being attacked by the reapers will raise much more than a bum scratch from them. As earlier posters have said I think it will be quiet similar to DA:O gaining support etc.

[LordShrike]

Of course its going to be that, Reapers indoctrinate death cults left and right. Including high ranking officials. you'll be lucky to make humans help you. All the races united? Ha! Ha!

YOU FORGET YOUR PLACE, MORTALS -HARBRINGER.

Surprise me BW, do something drastic and new.

(No, not the Deus Ex Machina... We have seen that already. Put it away..)

[swn32]

Though I doubt all the species combined will stand a chance against the entire reaper fleat

[Moiaussi]

Although I expect otherwise, it would be refreshing if the various governments simply realized the threat and rallied accordingly.



There would still be the whole 'figuring out how to win' problem to keep Shep occupied.



If they were going to do national recruitment quests, it should have been part of ME2, not 3.



But again, not holding my breath there

[swn32]

I fear there is gonna be some lame deus ex machina

[Wulfram]

Fight reapers, yes. Divert vital forces from defending the strategically vital Citadel, or their own homeworlds, to a seemingly hopeless battle to save Earth? Maybe not.

[J0HNL3I]

i hope we dont, it will be like gavering allies on oblivion: takes ****ing forever and all you get is crappy NPC's in the battle that cant fight

[Rune-Chan]

I still don't get this insistence that it's all going to be about Earth, it may have almost nothing to do with it at all.

Watch these cinematic/teaser trailers and tell me how much of these things actually happened in the games themselves:

Bioshock 2 'teaser' trailer
Bioshock 2 'launch' trailer
Gears of War 'teaser' trailer
Gears of War 2 'Rendezvous' trailer
Gears of War 2 'Last Day' trailer
Halo Reach 'Deliver Hope' trailer
Dragon Age 'Wardens Calling' trailer
Mass Effect 2 trailer

Even the ones where the locations are similar, they scenes themselves don't take place.

Hell, just look at the Mass Effect 2 one, Shepard doesn't even have any relation to Cerberus in it, he recruits Grunt on Tuchanka and Thane is on Horizon.

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 17 février 2011 - 01:18 .

[Ahriman]

Machines Are Us wrote...

I still don't get this insistence that it's all going to be about Earth, it may have almost nothing to do with it at all.

Forget about teaser, these assuptions mostly based on game description in EA Store.

As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final
mission to take back the Earth.  

and such things are usually close enough to the game.

[AkiKishi]

Trailers are more about being dramatic than "accurate".



I like watching them. But I'd never buy a games based off watiching one.

They do seem to have the common theme of characters in them being in the games though to an extent.



Makes me think it's more likely that we will come across the guy in Big Ben as a squad mate at some point.

The London bit though, gives a very Resistance:Fall of Man vibe.

[Rune-Chan]

Wizz wrote...

Machines Are Us wrote...

I still don't get this insistence that it's all going to be about Earth, it may have almost nothing to do with it at all.

Forget about teaser, these assuptions mostly based on game description in EA Store.

As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving
mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final
mission to take back the Earth.  

and such things are usually close enough to the game.

True enough, but that description was made before the game was even announced. It also suggests that Earth will be the climax of the game as opposed to the general basis of it.

As long as it isn't implied that Earth is all important and the rest of the galaxy can burn as long as "WE SAVED DA EEARTH!!!1!!" I don't mind it much.

The EA description also kind of proves my point, as I wasn't suggesting Earth wasn't in the game, just that it isn't the main focus like the trailer seems to suggest.

[Ahriman]

Machines Are Us wrote...
The EA description also kind of proves my point, as I wasn't suggesting Earth wasn't in the game, just that it isn't the main focus like the trailer seems to suggest.

If we really whole game "rally allies" to save Earth (not Citadel or Galaxy) I think it could be called "main focus". Also another hint

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of terrifying
machines have begun their destruction of the human race.

Galaxy has problem? No, Earth has. All sentient race in danger? No, only human race. Who the hell wrote this?
That just pisses me off. Ok, looks like I should calm down.

[AkiKishi]

Machines Are Us wrote...

True enough, but that description was made before the game was even announced. It also suggests that Earth will be the climax of the game as opposed to the general basis of it.

As long as it isn't implied that Earth is all important and the rest of the galaxy can burn as long as "WE SAVED DA EEARTH!!!1!!" I don't mind it much.

The EA description also kind of proves my point, as I wasn't suggesting Earth wasn't in the game, just that it isn't the main focus like the trailer seems to suggest.

I don't think they would remove too many of the common elements. I see Earth in a similiar role to Denerim in DA. It's probably a place we can go and sneak around a bit, then at some point later in the plot the big battle willl take place there.

If the Reaper fleet is the size shown at the end of ME2. They won't attack everything at once. There are 4 or 5 in London, if you split the 300 over the major cities of Earth, then they are pretty well occupied if you include some flying CSP.

Of course if they have 50,000 or something that does not apply. But then the more there are the harder it will be to beat them without some major Deus Ex Machina.

[Dirty_Dan]

I say it be split into 2 parts, preparing and then kicking ass. You start off trying to get an edge on the reapers, helping out a few races if you want (the loyalty missions of this game, you don't have to do them, but you better not like the guys you didn't help). Then as the first part ends with you discovering about the reaper's past and you gain that edge you need, Reaper time. You then choose which homeworlds you want to save first, and the longer you wait for one world, the less of a chance that race will live on (Turians and Humans would hold out the longest, and those loyalty missions you did before would effect how long another race could last).

[CaptainZaysh]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Just a question to certain people(not the person I'm quoting) If you want the old squad and not to actually have to recruit allies... What are you planning on doing for 20 hours?

Fighting the war.  I wanna be extracting a key asari matriarch from an apocalyptic war zone, identifying and rooting out indoctrinated traitors in the Turian Hierarchy, protecting ultrasecret salarian research facilities, making Paragon/Renegade decisions about whether to protect or abandon a billion refugees, carrying out high risk hit and run strikes behind enemy lines, helping or preventing a batarian general carry out a nuclear scorched earth policy one day, and helping or preventing a salarian STG team (whose captain may or may not be indoctrinated) sabotage a vital mass relay the next.

I want all these people to be desperately fighting the Reapers because they are terrifying space Cthulhus and not because Shepard did a loyalty quest for them.