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[AdmiralCheez]

@thurmanator692: I. Am awesome. (Also, fanfic link?)

[DarthVadoc]

Colonist/Ruthless.

As Tela Vasir said "I've heard losing a parent is horrific for children, scars them for life"

I always like to think that she's referring to Shepard.

[Sentox6]

As far as getting chosen for Spectre candidacy, I agree with Dean_the_Young that Torfan makes the most sense.

I think it's less compelling in terms of facing the Reapers, though. Torfan is essentially just the product of a competent soldier who puts the mission first and isn't ruled by their emotions. I consider someone who could survive an incident like Akuze and still continue to serve effectively (which, in this case, they obviously are) the most likely to be able to withstand the stress of combating the greatest known threat to sentient life with minimal support.

Of course, I ruin that by pairing it with the colonial history, which is really more abuse than any one person should ever be able to take

But really, this is like asking "What's the best Shepard face?". Whatever you want your Shepard to be is the 'best'.

Modifié par Sentox6, 17 février 2011 - 11:43 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

As for the orignal question this thread asked.

Spacer -/- warhero: The ultimative knight-in-shining-armor, or so it seems from a distance.

Earthborn -/- SS: Earth didn't kill you, neither did Akuze.

Colonist -/- Ruthless: Perfect renegade set-up.

And not to troll anyone who likes it. But I cannot stand colonist -/- sole-survivor. Too must wangst for me!

[Sentox6]

Lizardviking wrote...
And not to troll anyone who likes it. But I cannot stand colonist -/- sole-survivor. Too must wangst for me!

Hey, I'll totally admit to being a massive sucker for wangst. Moar!

[Kaltrec]

Sentox6 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...
And not to troll anyone who likes it. But I cannot stand colonist -/- sole-survivor. Too must wangst for me!

Hey, I'll totally admit to being a massive sucker for wangst. Moar!

Plus you come out of the SM with only 1 squadmate, i don't like the chances of anyone surviving ME3

[Xilizhra]

I'm not sure how winning on Torfan with major losses on all sides is more systematically superior than winning on Elysium.

[Konfined]

Torfan would actually be considered a war crime in today's Military; you don't kill surrendering combatants. Now the way I read the War Hero's backstory, Shepard managed to fend off a large group of enemy combatants single handed while saving fellow soldiers. That's Medal of Honor type action, not even close to mere luck, and is reflected in game by the character being awarded the Star of Terra.

Now with that said, in my own personal opinion, War Hero is given a kind of Mary Sue-esque treatment in game, as if the developers themselves felt it was the best choice. And I personally don't like the Sole Survivor for the same reasons as Dean *gasp*, and because with ME2 being factored in it was handled so poorly. I ultimately end up going the Earthborn/ Ruthless route- no fluff, no flash or flair, just a ruthless SoB.

Modifié par Konfined, 18 février 2011 - 01:31 .

[CaptainZaysh]

Konfined wrote...

Torfan would actually be considered a war crime in today's Military; you don't kill surrendering combatants.

I believe you're mistaken there, to my knowledge it's only a war crime if you shoot surrendered combatants.  Just because somebody wants to stop fighting doesn't mean you automatically have to oblige him.

[Cypher0020]

I like earthborn/sole survivor for the heaps o' angst a plenty



but my personal preference is earthborn/war hero...



being a scrappy orphan that manages to save the day.....my first Shep was this,and I liked it

[Konfined]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

Konfined wrote...

Torfan would actually be considered a war crime in today's Military; you don't kill surrendering combatants.

I believe you're mistaken there, to my knowledge it's only a war crime if you shoot surrendered combatants.  Just because somebody wants to stop fighting doesn't mean you automatically have to oblige him.

In the middle of a heated gun battle yes obviously, shooting in individual who's layed down arms is not considered violate of any laws; standing up and waving the white flag while the bullets are still flying doesn't suddenly guarantee you won't get shot.  Then again, you really haven't surrendered until the conflict is over and you're in custody anyway.  The way it's worded in ME canon isn't totally clear on that distinction so I was going off the belief that the conflict was over, and Shepard gunned them down.

[Abispa]

Oh, I forgot my guilty pleasure: Earth-born / Ruthless. Raised on the streets, jaded in the extreme, hates aliens, she now dreams of being TIM's right-hand woman (Hale's performance wins again). If she has to kill Miranda off to do it, she will. And once she's in place, she's going to put a cap in TIM's ass and take over Cerberus (if ME3 is as cool as it should be, it will give me that option). Then she'll make a statue of herself with pieces melted down from the Destiny Ascension and put it in a prominent position on the Presidium. If Kelly's smart, she'll keep my evil Shepard happy.

The final scene will show her in TIM's seat wearing her old gang colors. Gangster Rap closing music optional.

Modifié par Abispa, 18 février 2011 - 02:07 .

[Sesshomaru47]

I like colonist and sole survivor. If it wasn't bad enough you're a wee little orphan then why not add to the misery by making your whole unit die, leaving you alone again...Yup that's the best.

[CaptainZaysh]

Konfined wrote...

Then again, you really haven't surrendered until the conflict is over and you're in custody anyway.  The way it's worded in ME canon isn't totally clear on that distinction so I was going off the belief that the conflict was over, and Shepard gunned them down.

It's Emily Wong who mentions it, right?  As I recall she says "killing batarians who were trying to surrender."  That's only from memory, though, so I could be wrong.

My interpretation was always that some batarians tried to surrender, but Shepard couldn't accept, so they got slotted instead.  (It seems unlikely to me that a special forces unit would have enough men to handle many prisoners, anyway, so it's not really a surprising outcome in that respect.)

Modifié par CaptainZaysh, 18 février 2011 - 02:22 .

[Abispa]

A real soldier can look into an opponent's eyes and KNOW instinctively if he's really surrendering. Unfortunately, that's pretty difficult to do with Batarians. It causes migraines, and killing frenzies.

[Konfined]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

Konfined wrote...

Then again, you really haven't surrendered until the conflict is over and you're in custody anyway.  The way it's worded in ME canon isn't totally clear on that distinction so I was going off the belief that the conflict was over, and Shepard gunned them down.

It's Emily Wong who mentions it, right?  As I recall she says "killing batarians who were trying to surrender."  That's only from memory, though, so I could be wrong.

You know I actually missed that dialog.  Gonna have to make sure to catch it on my next ME1 playthrough.  Either way, I still love the Torfan backstory.  Bloody Batarian slavers.

Modifié par Konfined, 18 février 2011 - 02:24 .

[CaptainZaysh]

Apropos of the war hero discussion, here's a post from the old forums about how Shepard may have earned that Star of Terra:



I'd always thought that Shepard's Star of Terra citation might read similarly to Audie Murphy's citation for the CMOH. Ahem...



Rank and organisation:

2nd Lieutenant, S.A.M.C., B Company, 3rd Frontier Division.



Place and date:

Kastanie Drescher Interplanetary Spaceport, Elysium, January 2nd, 2176.



Citation:

Second Lt. Shepard organised the defence of Kastanie Drescher Spaceport, which was attacked by six tanks and waves of infantry. 2nd Lt. Shepard ordered the other armed defenders, who were mostly civilians, to withdraw to a prepared position inside the complex, while she remained forward at her command post and gave fire directions for a Grizzly IFV that had remained on station.



Shortly the Grizzly received a direct hit and began to burn. Its crew withdrew. 2nd Lt. Shepard remained to cover their escape, killing several of the advancing enemy infantry with her personal weapon. With the enemy tanks abreast of her position, 2nd Lt. Shepard climbed onto the burning Grizzly IFV, which was in danger of blowing up at any moment, and employed its machine gun against the enemy. She was alone and exposed to enemy fire from three sides, but her deadly fire killed dozens of pirates and caused their infantry attack to waver. The enemy tanks, losing infantry support, began to fall back.



For an hour the pirates tried every available weapon to eliminate 2nd Lt. Shepard, but she continued to hold her position and wiped out a squad that was trying to sneak up unnoticed on her right flank. Pirates reached as close as 10 metres, only to be mowed down by her fire. She received a head wound, but ignored it and continued her single-handed fight until her ammunition was exhausted. She then made her way back to the rest of the defenders, refused medical attention, and organised the defenders in a counterattack, which forced the pirates to withdraw.



Her directing of the Grizzly's fire wiped out many of the enemy; she personally went on to kill or wound about 50. 2nd Lt. Shepard's indomitable courage and her refusal to give an inch of ground saved the spaceport from possible encirclement or destruction, and enabled it to be used as the main landing point once reinforcements had arrived.

[IrishGunman]

Abispa wrote...

A real soldier can look into an opponent's eyes and KNOW instinctively if he's really surrendering. Unfortunately, that's pretty difficult to do with Batarians. It causes migraines, and killing frenzies.

True, to true. R.I.P, you Batarian Bastards! 

[Dirty_Dan]

Earthborn- war hero, I like it because he's from earth and that just seems like it makes him as human as possible, while he also can defend the galaxy. Seems like just the kind of guy to be the poster boy for the alliance

Modifié par Dirty_Dan, 18 février 2011 - 02:34 .

[Sentox6]

There's also the effects on alignment. The history choice gives a boost to the rate you receive points:

Spacer provides a bonus modifier to Paragon
Earthborn provides a bonus modifier to Renegade
Colonist provides a slight modifier to both

The psychological profile gives you a small boost in starting points: Paragon for War Hero and Renegade for Ruthless (none for Sole Survivor).

This, of course, has nothing to do with the 'best' backstory, but it does seem to indicate certain preferred pairings (namely Spacer/War Hero and Earthborn/Ruthless).

Modifié par Sentox6, 18 février 2011 - 09:37 .

[Spectre_907]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

The Butcher of Torfan is the pragmatic choice: not only does Shepard have a public notoriety, but ALSO has an established career of being a successful go-to person for getting the job done... which is exactly what the Spectres underlying requirement is. A Torfan Shepard has the reputation and the list of credentials to support an expectation of being able to succeed regularly in high-stress situations.

There is nothing in-game that talks about Shepard's previous military history outside of his/her psychological profile event and N7 vocational code. All we have is that description prior to playing the game but the codex says nothing about an established history.

The events only serve to highlight Shepard's psychological profile while in combat.

Modifié par Spectre_907, 19 février 2011 - 02:29 .

[Iceclaw7]

 I normally choose Earthborn/War Hero. 

I just love the idea of being from.. home. Earth. Where we began. War Hero is a little cheasy for me but I man, whatever. I'd rather be looked up to than looked down upon like a lesser being.