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[FASherman]

DJBare wrote...

FASherman wrote...

There's no way they can stop this because they took the lazy way out instead of reporting the real numbers. This is stupid. All anyone has to do is write a simple shell script that loops a bunch of wget commands to the download URL through an IP randomizer site.

Bioware, you screwed the pooch on this one.

An IP randomizer site can switch 300 IP's in just 15 seconds?

Are you kidding? 15 seconds is an eternity to a computer. Every URL they pass through will be randomized, handling hundreds a second.

Here's how Bioware should have handled this:

1. All EA account logins from the demo game are captured in a database (and I'm pretty sure they are)
2. Every minute, a background process connects to the SQL database and runs a single, simple SQL command to count the number of rows in the database (using a select unique by email address)
3. The result is saved to a flat file where the java script in the demo page can pull in the data and display accurate information.

Its pretty damned simple and it isn't affected by the script kiddies.

[Angrimsaur]

DJBare wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

chulaq wrote...

856000 were easy gona reach the 1 mil

Just watch BioWare put it back again even if it hits 1 million +.

Bioware are in a no win situation now, if they let it run people are going to shout cheat, if they put it back people are going to moan.

Yeah, they really are.

I actually expected Bioware/EA to "cheat" if there is any danger it won't reach 1 million until tuesday. I could see the community failing at this task beeing "bad" for marketing.

Now that it is obvious the counter has been messed with giving the free dlc away or not doing it both seems silly in its own way.

[FASherman]

wulfsturm wrote...

FASherman wrote...
Because game development its child's play compared to what I do for a living.

Right, I bet you work for NASA. Let me bow down to your greatness now and offer my opologies on a silver platter while I prostrate myself on the floor.

How about if you stop acting like a jerk and we'll call it even?

But if it makes you feel better, yes, I've done work for Johnson Space Center in Houston and the Glenn Research Center in Cleveland.

[spernus]

Lawl,it will be over the million in one hour top,probably 1.3 or 1.4 by the time Bioware employees are back at work.Some will be happy to see the 1 million mark and the following meltdown should be epic when they reset it to 650-675k...

[TheShadowWolf911]

you got owned wulfsturm

[Syrellaris]

FASherman wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

FASherman wrote...
Because game development its child's play compared to what I do for a living.

Right, I bet you work for NASA. Let me bow down to your greatness now and offer my opologies on a silver platter while I prostrate myself on the floor.

How about if you stop acting like a jerk and we'll call it even?

But if it makes you feel better, yes, I've done work for Johnson Space Center in Houston and the Glenn Research Center in Cleveland.

oh that is childs play compated to my work

[ScepticMatt]

well 900k now and still going strong at 1750/min. They'll have to react soon if they want to catch the spammers before it reaches 1 M. I don't believe its normal because the "regular" rate has been around 50/min yesterday.

Modifié par ScepticMatt, 25 février 2011 - 11:06 .

[FASherman]

Syrellaris wrote...

FASherman wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

FASherman wrote...
Because game development its child's play compared to what I do for a living.

Right, I bet you work for NASA. Let me bow down to your greatness now and offer my opologies on a silver platter while I prostrate myself on the floor.

How about if you stop acting like a jerk and we'll call it even?

But if it makes you feel better, yes, I've done work for Johnson Space Center in Houston and the Glenn Research Center in Cleveland.

oh that is childs play compated to my work

You may be right. As far as I'm concerned, doctors, lawyers, nurses, cops, firefighters or anyone else who has to make decisions that ultimately save or destroy lives do far more important work. If you're looking for an argument, you won't find one here.

[RosaAquafire]

This is dumb. How are they going to gauge which are legit and which are scripted?

[FASherman]

ScepticMatt wrote...

well 900k now and still going strong at 1750/min. They'll have to react soon if they want to catch the spammers before it reaches 1 M. I don't believe its normal because the "regular" rate has been around 50/min yesterday.

It'll be a PR nightmare if they roll it back from over a million.

[TheShadowWolf911]

FASherman wrote...

Syrellaris wrote...

FASherman wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

FASherman wrote...
Because game development its child's play compared to what I do for a living.

Right, I bet you work for NASA. Let me bow down to your greatness now and offer my opologies on a silver platter while I prostrate myself on the floor.

How about if you stop acting like a jerk and we'll call it even?

But if it makes you feel better, yes, I've done work for Johnson Space Center in Houston and the Glenn Research Center in Cleveland.

oh that is childs play compated to my work

You may be right. As far as I'm concerned, doctors, lawyers, nurses, cops, firefighters or anyone else who has to make decisions that ultimately save or destroy lives do far more important work. If you're looking for an argument, you won't find one here.

that is a very logical and somber thing to say.
you have my respect.

[Angrimsaur]

RosaAquafire wrote...

This is dumb. How are they going to gauge which are legit and which are scripted?

Oh, they can do that without any problems as they are most likely still tracking account logins in the background. They are just not using them for the counter.

If they reset it after it reached 1 million that is not going to matter though.

[Dubya75]

Yeeeha! We're almost there!

[TheShadowWolf911]

almost there.



LET THE CHAOS BEGIN!

MUHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!

[DJBare]

TheShadowWolf911 wrote...

almost there.

LET THE CHAOS BEGIN!
MUHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!

Put on your stone armor, you're gonna need it when nothing happens.

[nightcobra]

i'll say it:



i...am a weak weak man. a little part of me is actually hoping that it reaches 1 million just to see what happens.

[DJBare]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

i'll say it:

i...am a weak weak man. a little part of me is actually hoping that it reaches 1 million just to see what happens.

The world as we know it will come to an end.

[TheShadowWolf911]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

i'll say it:

i...am a weak weak man. a little part of me is actually hoping that it reaches 1 million just to see what happens.

i've been hoping for it.

same reason........well that and i really 'censored' want that DLC.

[DJBare]

Unless they are truly stupid, the spammers cannot for a moment believe they will get away with this, so the only thing I can think of is malicious intent to spoil it for everyone else.

[FASherman]

Any solution Bioware comes up has to include them accepting responsibility for a poorly thought out campaign. If they are smart, they'll just concede.



"We apologize for how we chose to implement our counter and the invitation to abuse that it created. The counter has now reached over a million downloads. We could reset the counter to what we feel is the correct count, but realize that would be a huge disappointment to our many fans, including those who don't frequent these forums for an explanation. Even were we to do so, it would still require vigilance as we're sure disruptive forces would find other ways to inflate the count.



That being said, we have decided to reward those who stand firmly with us and have supported the Dragon Age franchise. Since we are sure the 1 million mark would have been legitimately achieved, we will make the DLC available at launch. Those who would disrupt our community will now have to go elsewhere."

[SomeBug]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

i'll say it:

i...am a weak weak man. a little part of me is actually hoping that it reaches 1 million just to see what happens.

Nothing happens. Absolutely nothing. It keeps counting above a million and keeps counting and then in a few days BioWare roll it back another 300k but by then it's still over a million and everyone wins. We get the free crap in the game by winning the call to arms, BioWare gets to use the PR of unprecedented demo downloads. And everyone goes home happy.

How are people thinking this is a thing? You know who knows about the Call to Arms? People on the forums. Perhaps 2% of the total number of people who will buy Dragon Age 2.

No-one cares. Just so you know. Absolutely no-one cares about 'hacking' or surreptitious methods to inflate a download counter. Not BioWare. Not me. Not you. No-one. You're making a storm in a teacup over such a non-issue.

[Kalyma2221]

Almost 1.000.000

[The Elder King]

Kalyma2221 wrote...

Almost 1.000.000
snip

It's a fake result. Probably Bioware will cut this again.

[ScepticMatt]

950K now. ~1700/min. Based on a longer survey (I'm bored ), I think that at the current rate, we would cross the 1M mark shortly after end of next hour, if not sooner if it accerelates in an "endspurt" effort.

Modifié par ScepticMatt, 25 février 2011 - 11:36 .

[nightcobra]

i'm expecting the devs to hold out until the last second and remove 400k before it reaches the 1 million mark.