1889 réponses à ce sujet

[Zepheera]

DDAY27 wrote...

already in! I'm ready to play! Now if all this goes through is it something that will automatically be downloadable
when we get the game? I've also got a staff,belt,and Hayder's Razor listed but do I get codes or are they also downloadable when we get the game?THX

If it's like DA:O you'll be able to go into the game and download the DLC from there, otherwise you'll be able to go to your registered promotions and download the file and install it once the game is released.

Either way, you'll have access to it once the game is released.

Modifié par Zepheera, 26 février 2011 - 05:23 .

[Binary Boy]

lol, people have been bumping up the counter? I agree Zepheera, the counter doesn't need bumping up, why do people insist on doing such things, there's plenty of time left before bioware stop counting and at it's current rate (excluding bumped stats) we'll more than likely succeed on getting to 1 mil without cheating.

[Crusherix]

DDAY27 wrote...

already in! I'm ready to play! Now if all this goes through is it something that will automatically be downloadable when we get the game? I've also got a staff,belt,and Hayder's Razor listed but do I get codes or are they also downloadable when we get the game?THX

http://social.bioware.com/user_entitlements.php

Should be in there.

[Zepheera]

We haven't had another major surge since the last rollback, and it was pretty obvious when it happened both times. Hopefully they've gotten the hint that it's not going to work.

[Taellosse]

Ragh wrote...

Im pretty sure each time you download it the javascript will count it towards the counter, so that would be 2 extra downloads, so preferably just pick up one ::S

Well, I'm not planning to download it any more, of course.  And I was more concerned with Bioware's count than the one on the web page.  Besides, downloads themselves probably don't matter--they explicitly say on the page "To get your download counted, you will need to log into your EA account while playing the demo."  I very much doubt even the web counter is tracking raw downloads.  Especially since I'm doubtful they could get live updates of those kinds of figures from XBox Live and the PSN--aren't all downloads on those hosted by Microsoft and Sony, respectively?  More likely, they're tracking the demo logging in to their servers with the EA IDs, and counting those.
And anyway, I'm not cheating or anything.  I really did download it 3 times, and play it once for each download.  And I signed in using my real EA account so they'd know it was me, if they cared.  I just wanted to compare how the game plays on each platform, and had the luxury of doing so.  There was never a demo for Origins, so I have never seen how it plays on a console before, and I was curious.
My question was more about what Bioware's methodology is regarding their tally, than anything else.  There are several ways they could be handling it, based on the language they've used to talk about this.  If they're only counting each EA ID that logs into any version of the demo once, then I'd only count once, but if they're counting each platform up separately, then I'd count 3 times.  And what about if a single download, say on a shared machine, is logged in to by multple users?  Say, if my wife wanted to try, and got her own EA ID and played it on our 360 (she doesn't, and won't, but for the sake of argument)?  It'd be the same download, but a different ID.  Would that count separately, or not?

Modifié par Taellosse, 26 février 2011 - 05:30 .

[Zepheera]

Taellosse, if you read the fine print on the Call to Arms page on the site, it says "To get your download counted, you will need to log into your EA account while playing the demo."

So they're probably just tracking accounts logging in to play the demo. The counter on the website probably tracks downloads (which is why the spammers can inflate the totals so easily), while the official counter tracks the log ins.

Disclaimer:  The preceding paragragh is speculation on my part, however that scenario does make quite a bit of sense to me.

Modifié par Zepheera, 26 février 2011 - 05:31 .

[Taellosse]

Zepheera wrote...

Taellosse, if you read the fine print on the Call to Arms page on the site, it says "To get your download counted, you will need to log into your EA account while playing the demo."

So they're probably just tracking accounts logging in to play the demo. The counter on the website probably tracks downloads (which is why the spammers can inflate the totals so easily), while the official counter tracks the log ins.

Disclaimer:  The preceding paragragh is speculation on my part, however that scenario does make quite a bit on sense to me.

Sorry, I edited my post to reflect some of what you said while you were posting this.  And I also said why I doubt they're counting raw downloads--I don't think they could conveniently get live numbers from the 360 and PS3 versions that way.  The spammers are more likely inflating the numbers by creating bunches of fake EA IDs and logging in over and over on the same machines.  Which is easy enough for Bioware to spot, because if more than, say, 3 or 4 unique EA IDs are logging in--especially in rapid succession--from the same IPs, they're obviously trying to inflate the number artificially, and they can just remove those from the tally.

Modifié par Taellosse, 26 février 2011 - 05:36 .

[Cdog215546]

It is now 1236 am on the east coast of the US. I can't wait to see how much it drops when I wake up this time.

[Dave of Canada]

Binary Boy wrote...

there's plenty of time left before bioware stop counting

Three days for 20% with everybody interested having played it? Cutting it a little close.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 26 février 2011 - 05:45 .

[DDAY27]

Thank You Crusherix.I saw them in there but, I didn't know if there would be codes added for the items to redeem.Thank You again

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Well it's went up by like 100k in quite a few hours this time, so we might actually make it, since hopefully the spammers have gotten bored lol.

[nightsinger]

There is no way we will hit 1'000'000 assuming both the counter and its growth rate are correct and won't suddenly change in the near future ;-)

In the last 5 minutes we saw an increase of only 104, which equates to ~1'250 per hour or ~30k per day. Given that we still need over 190k we would need way over 6 days, when we only have 3 left.

Sorry folks...

Edit: Corrected per 5 minute growth typo.

Modifié par nightsinger, 26 février 2011 - 09:11 .

[FurousJoe]

nightsinger wrote...

There is no way we will hit 1'000'000 assuming both the counter and its growth rate are correct and won't suddenly change in the near future ;-)

In the last 5 minutes we saw an increase of only 104, which equates to ~1'250 per hour or ~30k per day. Given that we still need over 190k we would need way over 6 days, when we only have 3 left.

Sorry folks...

Edit: Corrected per 5 minute growth typo.

The growth rate is not constant, people go to work, people sleep, it will be more at times, less at others. I'm confident we'll see a healthy bump this Saturday and Sunday, and if we aint there yet by early Monday, well then it's looking bad.

[nightsinger]

FurousJoe wrote...

The growth rate is not constant, people go to work, people sleep, it will be more at times, less at others. I'm confident we'll see a healthy bump this Saturday and Sunday, and if we aint there yet by early Monday, well then it's looking bad.

I only see the weekend-factor as having any potential relevance. After all this promotion is available around the globe so people going to sleep or work will probably not cause to much fluctuation in the growth rate. For example, at the same time I am going to sleep in Germany people in the EST timezone return from their daily work. Since this example can be transfered to people around the globe and in different timezones, it all balances out more or less. However, the weekend might result in an increase, I'll give you that. I just doubt that it will be enough, given the fact that all the "nerds" have already played the demo up to this point.

[FurousJoe]

nightsinger wrote...

FurousJoe wrote...

The growth rate is not constant, people go to work, people sleep, it will be more at times, less at others. I'm confident we'll see a healthy bump this Saturday and Sunday, and if we aint there yet by early Monday, well then it's looking bad.

I only see the weekend-factor as having any potential relevance. After all this promotion is available around the globe so people going to sleep or work will probably not cause to much fluctuation in the growth rate. For example, at the same time I am going to sleep in Germany people in the EST timezone return from their daily work. Since this example can be transfered to people around the globe and in different timezones, it all balances out more or less. However, the weekend might result in an increase, I'll give you that. I just doubt that it will be enough, given the fact that all the "nerds" have already played the demo up to this point.

The markets are substansially different, population numbers and available hardware in different regions are substancially different.

Point in case, the largest boost to the numbers came with the PC release (because it was worldwide) and the Xbox 360/PS3 release in the U.S. (Both population numbers and hardware in circulation).

[sirdario1986]

The problem is that most of the people really interested in Dragon Age II and so in the demo, already downloaded it! So even if we are in the weekend, I think it's really hard to get 1 million...

[Gamudeon]

We can still make it. and even if we don't I'm sure Bioware will still release the two items for all the hard (Not to mention free) advertising we did for them anyhow. So I'm not really worried about reaching that million anymore. I'm still surprise that we hit over 800,000 in 4-5 days. ^.^

[nightsinger]

FurousJoe wrote...

The markets are substansially different, population numbers and available hardware in different regions are substancially different.

Point in case, the largest boost to the numbers came with the PC release (because it was worldwide) and the Xbox 360/PS3 release in the U.S. (Both population numbers and hardware in circulation).

Yes, of course the markets differ. I am just saying that saturday is already nearly over in the asia-pacific timezones, which (after Europe and the US) have the highest player density, and my estimation of roughly 1'250 per hour is still holding so far. Let's see how this changes when the US gradually wakes up ;-)

Just keep in mind that on average the growth rate needs to be at least twice of what it is right now (at the very least) - and it needs to be that consistently. I still doubt it's going to happen, without anybody tempering with the counters again.

[FurousJoe]

I have a good idea! In case we DO miss the deadline, they should put these 2 tomes up with the Dr. Pepper promotion, these are the perfect items for that!

[SF117]

Two quick questions:

1. How long will the items be available?

2. Will they be available to me if I don't download the demo before March 1st?



I ask because I won't be able to get on and play until sometime late next week.

[nightsinger]

SF117 wrote...

Two quick questions:
1. How long will the items be available?
2. Will they be available to me if I don't download the demo before March 1st?

I ask because I won't be able to get on and play until sometime late next week.

IF we unlock them by reaching the 1'000'000 the tomes will be available to everybody (not just the ones that played the demo). They will probably just show up as game promotions for everybody who owns an EA account.

[SoleSong]

nightsinger wrote...

FurousJoe wrote...

The growth rate is not constant, people go to work, people sleep, it will be more at times, less at others. I'm confident we'll see a healthy bump this Saturday and Sunday, and if we aint there yet by early Monday, well then it's looking bad.

I only see the weekend-factor as having any potential relevance. After all this promotion is available around the globe so people going to sleep or work will probably not cause to much fluctuation in the growth rate. For example, at the same time I am going to sleep in Germany people in the EST timezone return from their daily work. Since this example can be transfered to people around the globe and in different timezones, it all balances out more or less. However, the weekend might result in an increase, I'll give you that. I just doubt that it will be enough, given the fact that all the "nerds" have already played the demo up to this point.

I would like to put in some few words.
One have to look where you will find most players, and also what time of the 24 houer day it is most likely they will sit down and play. To answer... we play most in the later part of the evening, and there is less player living in the Atlantic Osean, not to speak about the Pasific Ocean. Also, looking to Africa, there peoples is busy doing something else, perhaps but for South Afrika... in Libya they are doing "the real thing".
As for India and China, I really dont know... BioWare know... or rather EA.
Anyway, figuring where the "late evening" is, is important. If late evening is passing over vestern Europe it would be right for me to think that I would se an increase in played demos.
Now it is night in New Zealand and Australia. that surge is going down, also New Zealand have had an earthquake.
All thise things do that the real count will fluctuate. Also in the holyday peoples have more freetime, more time to play and many peoples around the world have much to do on an ordenary day of the week, so todays evening where ever that is will make its count so to say, tomorow also. :wizard:

PS. Only editing errors.

Modifié par SoleSong, 26 février 2011 - 11:59 .

[sirdario1986]

Is there anyone that can spam responsibly, you know, making the counter grow a little bit faster but without drawing attention of Bioware guys?!



Ok,ok, I'm joking...

[sirdario1986]

SoleSong wrote...
Anyway, figuring where the "late evening" is, is important. If late evening is passing over vestern Europe it would be right for me to think that I would se a increase in played demos.
Now it is night in New Zealand and Australia. that surge is going down, also New Zealand have had an earthquake.
All thise things do that the real count will fluctuate. Also in the holyday peoples have more freetime, more time to play and many peoples around the world have much to do on an ordenary day of the week, so todays evening where ever that is will make its count so to say, tomorow also. :wizard:

The last night here in Europe, the counter grew just of 60k or similar...I was surprised this morning, when I saw that almost no one has played the demo between 11p.m. and 9 a.m....

[SoleSong]

sirdario1986... Hi!
You must take into consideration that Western Europe hit the download button early in the game. More so then other places, because, if I may, Europe is perhaps that aera of the world with most PC compared to peoples living there.

That is the reason for BioWare to make games usable for peoples speaking "small" language as French and German, also Russian ad Polish.
They dont bother with Norway, as we all speak english from 12 years and up here all nowadays :-)

Modifié par SoleSong, 26 février 2011 - 12:11 .